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Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



tirinal posted:

Today is a good day, because I get to post sword porn.

Back in April I got on the waiting list at Danelli for a replica of this sword from my copy of Norman's book on rapiers.


It arrived today and is drop-dead gorgeous, along with handling better than anything I've ever held.


Full album (with obligatory apologies for the lovely pics): http://imgur.com/a/yZs6f/all

Whoa. Is that thing sharp?

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tirinal
Feb 5, 2007

Verisimilidude posted:

Whoa. Is that thing sharp?

Nah, blunted tip. This is for practice.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME
hi five danelli bro

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



tirinal posted:

Nah, blunted tip. This is for practice.

It's beautiful. I want to get on the waiting list for a longsword but I'm not sure if it's worth it when I can get an ok practice sword for relatively cheap. Plus I'm already getting an Alexandria so I don't want to be greedy.

tirinal
Feb 5, 2007

Verisimilidude posted:

It's beautiful. I want to get on the waiting list for a longsword but I'm not sure if it's worth it when I can get an ok practice sword for relatively cheap. Plus I'm already getting an Alexandria so I don't want to be greedy.

I'm pretty amazed by what Marco charges, actually. I've no experience with longswords, but stock Darkwood rapiers are something like 470. Meanwhile that sword cost 640, which is ridiculous for a custom piece. He did say he undercharged me by about 100 or so, but something with a less ornate pommel would probably run about the same.

tirinal fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Feb 13, 2016

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

I'm new to fencing, about 4-5 months in, but when my instructor looked at my foil to repair it (it had been buzzing randomly), he said that I bought some "cheap Chinese knockoff" foil, so I'm looking for a new one. He recommended looking at Absolute, but when looking at their electric foil page, I'm more or less at a loss, since there are approximately a billion options. Apparently what I should be looking for is a foil that is easily maintained (i.e., I can buy the various tip parts for it easily), but I have no idea what the difference is between the "Absolute" tip point and, say, the German one, and that seems like one of the more straightforward options. My instinct is to just go for the "standard" foil with default options, but I figure it wouldn't hurt to ask the thread.

El Spamo
Aug 21, 2003

Fuss and misery
Standard is good, get FIE if you can afford it, always go german tips (epeeist talking).

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Yeah go German tip. I like extra since it hides the screws, but v2 is good too. If you just started an fie blade might be more than you need. The absolute blades are cheap enough to be considered expendable until you get to a point where you'd know the difference.

If you're close to a big tournament with vendors attending, trying out blades in person is always nice.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



I...I might have caved and bought a Brescia Spadona. http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/johnsson/sword-museum-brescia.htm

tirinal
Feb 5, 2007

I think it's a medical condition.

Rodrigo Diaz
Apr 16, 2007

Knights who are at the wars eat their bread in sorrow;
their ease is weariness and sweat;
they have one good day after many bad

Don't worry dude I'm gonna drop a thou or so on a katzbalger and sheath in a few months (many months?)

ScratchAndSniff
Sep 28, 2008

This game stinks

GrandpaPants posted:

I'm new to fencing, about 4-5 months in, but when my instructor looked at my foil to repair it (it had been buzzing randomly), he said that I bought some "cheap Chinese knockoff" foil, so I'm looking for a new one. He recommended looking at Absolute, but when looking at their electric foil page, I'm more or less at a loss, since there are approximately a billion options. Apparently what I should be looking for is a foil that is easily maintained (i.e., I can buy the various tip parts for it easily), but I have no idea what the difference is between the "Absolute" tip point and, say, the German one, and that seems like one of the more straightforward options. My instinct is to just go for the "standard" foil with default options, but I figure it wouldn't hurt to ask the thread.

I'm not sure what he meant by "chinese knock-off" but the last time I did some digging into them Absolute sourced their store-brand components (i.e. the default options) in China. The blades don't last quite as long as name-brand, but are totally fine for beginners.

Ask around and and hold club-mates weapons to choose the grip and just get all german electrical components. If you don't have a bunch of club-mates to pester, ask the coach for more input. Some coaches like teaching with pistol or french grips, and when you're starting out you don't want to be the one Belgian grip hipster in the class.

Edit: Unless there is something wrong with your bell/grip, you could probably just buy a wired blade and save a few bucks.

ScratchAndSniff fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Feb 17, 2016

Crazy Achmed
Mar 13, 2001

I know there's been some weird poo poo reported like counterfeit violin strings turning up, but it'd be a bit surprising to see that happening with a niche market like fencing gear.

As far as foils go, you're right that there are a whole bunch of options. But there are only really a couple of things you should be worrying about at this stage - the biggest one is quality/durability, and after that what kind of handle you want. Ask around your club to have a hold of different types and makes, there are a few different shapes but the majority of people like the standard pistol/orthopaedic grip.
If you can afford it, shell out for a FIE rated blade: they'll last a lot longer compared to a "standard", easily a few years of moderate usage. There are differences in balance and flexibility between the various flavours you can get, but unless you're trying to do some crazy flicky poo poo it shouldn't make much practical difference. Some of them are a bit floppier than others, but whichever you choose, you'll get used to it very quickly. Personally, I have an Uhlmann BF and a Vniti and they're both great.


That's one pretty rapier, I wish my foils came with bitchin' guards like that.

Crazy Achmed fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Feb 18, 2016

ANIME AKBAR
Jan 25, 2007

afu~

GrandpaPants posted:

I'm new to fencing, about 4-5 months in, but when my instructor looked at my foil to repair it (it had been buzzing randomly), he said that I bought some "cheap Chinese knockoff" foil, so I'm looking for a new one. He recommended looking at Absolute, but when looking at their electric foil page, I'm more or less at a loss, since there are approximately a billion options. Apparently what I should be looking for is a foil that is easily maintained (i.e., I can buy the various tip parts for it easily), but I have no idea what the difference is between the "Absolute" tip point and, say, the German one, and that seems like one of the more straightforward options. My instinct is to just go for the "standard" foil with default options, but I figure it wouldn't hurt to ask the thread.
While the quality of blades can cover a huge range, there's no "knockoffs" that I'm aware of. Short of equipment with an FIE stamp, there is no "bona fide" equipment, so it's likely that your blade can be repaired by someone who knows how. German style points are pretty standard (there are different types of german points but their parts are all interchangeable). AF non-FIE blades are fine beginner blades. Their FIE blades are somewhat amazing for their longevity. Make sure you choose the socket style correctly to match your body cords (or whatever your club uses).

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Hey guys, thanks for your responses. I didn't go for an FIE blade just yet

Apparently what he meant by a knockoff was that the construction was pretty poor, to the extent that the tip was neither German nor French (and thus really hard to fix since neither of those common parts fit it). But I got a new foil with a German tip and it feels lighter than the old one? I didn't really weigh them or anything. Maybe it's just in my head.

Thanks again for your responses!

Crazy Achmed
Mar 13, 2001

That kinda makes sense, I wish more parts were compatible between manufacturers. You could always get another German wire and tip and refurbish your old foil as a backup weapon, it's a bit fiddly to do but not that hard.
As far as weight goes either is good, if it's heavier then that'll help you build up hand strength; if it's lighter then it'll be easy to move.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

:rip: first blade, may you be wielded by a noble warrior in Valhalla. Good thing I literally just bought a backup.

Also, has anyone had any luck promoting a fencing club? I sense that that's a source of anxiety of mine, exacerbated by the fact that it's in San Francisco (and thus subject to terrible SF cost of living/operating a business) and there aren't a whole lot of newcomers to make up for the rise in everything. I wouldn't mind passing along a few ideas if I could do anything to help.

Crazy Achmed
Mar 13, 2001

My current club's a student one so we get a lot of people from stalls/flyers etc. during orientation week, plus some people contacting us directly having found our details on the web. I have helped with a thing previously at a local fair doing a stall and some demo bouting, but I don't think it got much traction (didn't help it was raining that day :( ). I kinda get the feeling a lot of promo, like with all advertising, will fall on deaf ears if your audience isn't predisposed to wanting to try out a new sport, but fencing is kinda flashy and will get plenty of attention if you set up outdoors and get some bouts going.
It's sad that fencing's so nichey, but hopefully it'l pick up in popularity. Anyone know if there'll be free webcasts of the Olympics? I'm in New Zealand and there's no way in hell they'll broadcast any of that here.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME
I feel like I want another sword now.

I feel like I want to start collecting them...

Also, if anyone has a 17th century dagger they want to get rid of, PM me

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

It's an illness.

And I've caught it as well. :smith:

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Once i get a house i am planning on starting it too.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME
you don't need a house for this, i found out if i stop packing so many clothes and supplies on my trips to germany, i will have more room in my luggage for swords and reenactment stuff...

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

HEY GAL posted:

you don't need a house for this, i found out if i stop packing so many clothes and supplies on my trips to germany, i will have more room in my luggage for swords and reenactment stuff...

its more to have a place to properly display them and such, just a random wall in my apt is not the idea. my goal is not to just be goony af and have a fuckin longsword in my living room

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

HEY GAL posted:

I feel like I want another sword now.

I feel like I want to start collecting them...

Also, if anyone has a 17th century dagger they want to get rid of, PM me

Give it a few months, and you'll end up like this guy :haw:

Crazy Achmed
Mar 13, 2001

Yeah, personally I would love a court sword/smallsword/collichemarde/etc. to put on the wall. But sadly I'm on the wrong side of the world from where these things actually exist, and I imagine it'd be a world of hurt getting it past customs. :( It's probably best for my wallet this way.

General Emergency
Apr 2, 2009

Can we talk?

Perestroika posted:

Give it a few months, and you'll end up like this guy :haw:



Don't worry. He's an expert!

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever


Thats a bog standard Sallet and Thinkin cudgel. Dude knows his poo poo.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

DandyLion posted:

Thats a bog standard Sallet and Thinkin cudgel. Dude knows his poo poo.

in general he does and his poo poo is cool

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

WoodrowSkillson posted:

in general he does and his poo poo is cool

I actually agree; Matt helped me out putting together my 15th century English harness (coincidentally he was having one made at exactly the same time) so he had accrued a lot of reference images that I hadn't found after a year of collecting pics/visiting museums, and being on the right side of the pond helps too.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Noticed today that my favourite longsword has somehow disappeared from the loaner rack. :( I suppose this is the world's way of telling me it's high time to shoot an email to Peter Regenyei and see if he wants to make me a pink-handled feder.

General Emergency
Apr 2, 2009

Can we talk?
European European Martial Arts goons: What are some trustworthy retailers for HEMA gear? I'm looking to get a pair of Red Dragon's gloves for sidesword and the shipping from their own store is pretty murderous. Anyone know of a good alternative? I'm located in Finland.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

I recently ordered a pair of Neyman Fencing's Thokk gloves from Poland.

If you want specifically the Red Dragons, Corsair's Wares in the UK stocks them. Just be careful, I hear you get what you pay for with the Dragons.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



If you're on Facebook, get on the HEMA Alliance and General HEMA discussion FB groups and ask around there. Then after your question is answered immediately unfollow those groups.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Hey, HEMA Alliance's group is... Not terrible. If you get a feel for which issues to never touch.

So basically it's good for staying on top of events, book releases and equipment reviews. :v:

General Emergency
Apr 2, 2009

Can we talk?
Thanks for the links.

Yeah I've heard the Red Dragon's aren't that awesome for heavier stuff like long sword etc but I'm getting them for bolognese sidesword and your hand is already pretty well protected in it but you need quite a bit of dexterity. A dude at our group has a pair of Thokk's but they're simply too cumbersome. Probably will need a pair of sparring gloves, heavies or something else too at some point.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Oh right, I forgot HROARR has a fairly handy list of HEMA suppliers.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

I just fenced this girl who, without fail, would put her free hand on her stomach whenever my foil got anywhere close to her. I told her to quit and I still beat her, but what should I do to make her stop next time

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Smoking Crow posted:

I just fenced this girl who, without fail, would put her free hand on her stomach whenever my foil got anywhere close to her. I told her to quit and I still beat her, but what should I do to make her stop next time
Fleche at the hand? :v:

married but discreet
May 7, 2005


Taco Defender
This habit usually stops when they get stabbed in the hand.

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dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Remember: if a covering causes a touch correctly given to register as off target, you still get the point.

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