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frank.club posted:Sea Lab 2021 is some goddamn win The post-Murphy Sealab 2021 on the other hand was some goddamn garbage. Waffleman_ posted:Sealab and Space Ghost at least have the excuse of using old cels from bad Hanna-Barbera shows and probably not a lot of money. Yeah, SGC2C literally started as a couple Cartoon Network employees splicing together Space Ghost clips and doing funny voices in their spare time, I wouldn't be surprised if that show was made with the change they found in the couch cushions. Y-Hat posted:At least Disney gave Craig McCracken a reason for getting rid of Wander Over Yonder, as stupid as it was. Adult Swim didn't give Aqua Teen Hunger Force that luxury. "Had not been funny or entertaining in several years" is as good a reason as any. raditts fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Mar 7, 2016 |
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icantfindaname posted:Pretty much all adult-audience animated sitcoms get away with looking like trash because ~*irony*~ The Critic seemed pretty good for its time. Mission Hill also seemed decent.
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raditts posted:The post-Murphy Sealab 2021 on the other hand was some goddamn garbage. It's not their fault that guy died
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Y-Hat posted:I was gonna say "then maybe they should do that with other shows besides their two biggest ones," but then I remembered that We Bare Bears and Clarence (btw Clarence is still really good and everyone should watch it) are on weekly as well. It's a good move on Cartoon Network's part. I'm guessing they're waiting for their other shows to build up a good episode log.
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Looks like DuckTales is getting rebooted!
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If its anything close to the caliber of the Mickey Mouse shorts color me excited
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Where's Launchpad 
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Martytoof posted:Looks like DuckTales is getting rebooted! Woo-oo.
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I wonder if they're going to get a new VO for Scrooge, considering that Alan Young is nearly 100 years old.
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Gann Jerrod posted:I wonder if they're going to get a new VO for Scrooge, considering that Alan Young is nearly 100 years old. Everybody's getting recast, so sayeth Terry McGovern (the old voice of Launchpad).
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Probably for the best. No one sounded so hot in the remake of the NES game.
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Sockser posted:If its anything close to the caliber of the Mickey Mouse shorts color me excited I really like the new shorts, but sometimes they go a little far with the surreal Ren and Stimpy style crazy. I don't know how better to describe it so hopefully that makes some sense.
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Macaluso posted:Where's Launchpad Unannounced Darkwing reboot, obv.
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It would make sense to recast the centenarians (Young, June Foray) but Terry McGovern is not that old, and neither is Russi Taylor (the voice of the boys and Webby and who's been doing Minnie in the new Mickey shorts). If they want to go in a completely new direction, that's their prerogative, but it's interesting how it hadn't gotten any traction versus the PPG casting controversy.
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I hope the boys have donald voices, not the weird surfer bullshit we got a while ago.
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Why would they even do that?
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ConanThe3rd posted:Why would they even do that? Appeal to a different generation.
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kefkafloyd posted:It would make sense to recast the centenarians (Young, June Foray) but Terry McGovern is not that old, and neither is Russi Taylor (the voice of the boys and Webby and who's been doing Minnie in the new Mickey shorts). If they want to go in a completely new direction, that's their prerogative, but it's interesting how it hadn't gotten any traction versus the PPG casting controversy. I blame twitter for the PPG stuff. Twitter seems to have a way with blowing stuff up and Tara Strong has the fanbase and tweets something like this: https://twitter.com/tarastrong/status/608033768264318977?ref_src=twsrc
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Looks good, though I'm more interested in hearing how the new voice cast is gonna sound, Alan Young as Scrooge is gonna be a tough act to follow but to be fair the guy is nearly 100 years old so I understand the need for a change (I highly doubt Donald is going to be recast though, same with the triplets to a lesser extent). Speaking of which, I hope this carries over the one thing Quack Pack did right: Give Huey, Dewey and Louie actual distinct personalities rather then having them be carbon copies of each other.
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Electric Phantasm posted:I blame twitter for the PPG stuff. Twitter seems to have a way with blowing stuff up and Tara Strong has the fanbase and tweets something like this: To be frank I'm glad Tara got replaced, she hasn't been able to do Bubbles properly in more than a decade
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Xelkelvos posted:Appeal to a different generation. No I would understand that (Not condone, obviously) but I mean why take almost anything of Quack Pack, something of a quantifiable disaster, that isn't giving Huey, Dewey, and Louie distinct personalities?
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Electric Phantasm posted:I blame twitter for the PPG stuff. Twitter seems to have a way with blowing stuff up and Tara Strong has the fanbase and tweets something like this: Poor Tara, she'll just have to settle for voice acting every other female character that isn't voiced by Grey DeLisle.
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yeah i always find it eye-rollingly dumb whenever a super famous VA pitches a shitfit about being replaced for an iconic role since the VA industry is already super tough for anyone without the last name of North, Baker, Hamill, Bailey, or Hale
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I think she was more annoyed that it all happened without even informing her and that she found out one of her iconic roles had been recast through a press release. Like immediately after that she clarified she had no ill will towards the new VA, she just wished it had been handled differently.
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raditts posted:Poor Tara, she'll just have to settle for voice acting every other female character that isn't voiced by Grey DeLisle. I mean... it's one of her signature characters, and they kind of did it without giving her any warning at all. They didn't even ask her. I know she does a lot of voices but Bubbles is a character that I feel could be considered "hers". That being said, she could've handled it on twitter a lot better. I know she clarified later but it left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths when she first reacted to it.
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Macaluso posted:Bubbles is a character that I feel could be considered "hers". oh good this argument great. great. yeah this isn't one of the main reasons why the VA industry is a nightmare to get into with all of the roles going to a bare handful of actors and actresses who all know and are close friends with each other Macaluso posted:I mean... it's one of her signature characters her "signature characters" include practically half the animated female characters in the industry, if we took this argument to its natural conclusion we should just hire tara strong for any role that has breasts oh wait the industry already does that NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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raditts posted:Poor Tara, she'll just have to settle for voice acting every other female character that isn't voiced by Grey DeLisle. Penance for Shegor.
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Toxxupation posted:her "signature characters" include practically half the animated female characters in the industry I don't really agree. I would say Bubbles and maybe Timmy Turner are characters that feel very specifically "Tara Strong" where as you have characters she voices like Raven or Harley Quinn or like... Dil Pickles where I can see those voices going out to others. Like I get the VA industry is super tight knit and competitive and it's really hard for up and coming voice actors to make it, and I agree that Tara Strong having such a monopoly on so many voices is kind of a problem. But I would still say Bubbles is a Tara Strong character just like I would say Winnie the Pooh or Pete are Jim Cummings characters (and yes I get the irony there considering Jim Cummings wasn't the original voices for them)
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That's more based on personal feelings than anything. Like why isn't Raven her character as much as bubbles except for your personal feelings? She invented Cartoon Raven's now iconic voice.
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Acne Rain posted:That's more based on personal feelings than anything. Like why isn't Raven her character as much as bubbles except for your personal feelings? She invented Cartoon Raven's now iconic voice. Sure that's also true, I can't really argue that. It just feels a little weird to me to be annoyed at Tara Strong for daring to be upset that she wasn't asked to do Bubbles again, simply because she voices a lot of characters
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Voice actors are super defensive about being recast because it's a common threat used during contract negotations, you probably remember a few years ago when they were threatening to replace the Simpsons team if they didn't take paycuts or holding auditions for the Futurama resurrection on Comedy Central.
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I think that even the most famous/recognizable voice actors are used to being treated like absolute poo poo because they have absolutely no clout or fame to leverage in their requests to be treated fairly. Even Billy West sounds bitter as hell about getting cut from jobs all the time. It seems to be all about how you perform at that particular audition or about how connected you are. I don't think reputation counts for anything outside of that. People who make movies and tv care about actor actors because they have some kind of fame that has a dollar value. Dedicated voice actors, despite their arguably greater skill at creating very precise characters, are nobodies to producers who don't have great relationships with them already. It seems like a very widely dismissed profession, which might be part of why they'll take whatever positive attention they can get, like bronies. To a point, anyway.
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Jack Gladney posted:I think that even the most famous/recognizable voice actors are used to being treated like absolute poo poo because they have absolutely no clout or fame to leverage in their requests to be treated fairly. Even Billy West sounds bitter as hell about getting cut from jobs all the time. It seems to be all about how you perform at that particular audition or about how connected you are. I don't think reputation counts for anything outside of that. I remember a video interview (I think it was with Bennet the Sage or his producer) with various anime dub actors about what it's like being a dedicated voice actor. From what I recall, they're shut in cramped recording rooms for unreasonably long hours without air conditioning and as soon as they're done they go back to being herded around like extras because they're not "real" actors.
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Anime voice actors are almost all non-union. That's another reason "real" voice actors are so defensive about being replaced.
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The best explanation of the Powerpuff saltiness I heard was by Liz Daily (Buttercup) on Rob Paulsen's Talkin' Toons. The TL:DL is something like this: 1. They did the 2012 special for scale/low pay on the promise that it would be used to get the series going again. 2. They (EG Daily, Tara, Cathy) were not invited to audition. 3. They found about the recasting when regular people did (when the reboot was announced). 4. They don't hold anything against the new voice cast. 5. Other original voices are being brought back (Tom Kenny, Roger Jackson, and so on). That said VAing is a very insular business, but I can totally get why. Directors like working with people they know can do the job without loving up. Doesn't make being insular right, but it does explain it. With the advent of home studios and the internet it's opening up slowly, but due to acting unions it'll always be a bit more limited.
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Regardless of all the drama, the main thing I hope is that the new voice cast is good. Their work in the preview clip was okay, and I think with time, they'll be pretty great too. In unrelated news, Miraculous Ladybug's Korean dub is airing the intended two-part season finale about the origin of the heroes. Part one aired last week, and part 2 aired today. Because of episode order differences, this is the middle of the Korean season. The French dub aired them in Canada last week, and this week aired two episodes that hadn't aired in France yet. Next week, we're getting the last two episodes, I believe. I'm waiting for the rest of the season to be out before I watch the Origin episodes.
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Studios owe voice actors a lot of things, but being asked to reprise their role in a new series isn't one of them.
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They part where they were promised the roles in exchange for doing that "special" on the cheap seems like a legitimate gripe to me.
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Bass Bottles posted:They part where they were promised the roles in exchange for doing that "special" on the cheap seems like a legitimate gripe to me. Yeah, if that's really the case I can't be mad at them about it because that's pretty hosed up. I guess they should have gotten it in writing or something though, a verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
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Senerio posted:Regardless of all the drama, the main thing I hope is that the new voice cast is good. Their work in the preview clip was okay, and I think with time, they'll be pretty great too. The episode order is completely hosed up, isn't it? Jagged Stone's appearances are all over the place, and the Puppeteer episode had 2 villains I don't remember ever seeing.
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