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MedicineHut posted:Meanwhile, over at the international community... Where the gently caress are they getting this information from? It's pie in the sky impossible to a degree even roberts isn't capable of promising.
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AlmightyPants posted:Where the gently caress are they getting this information from? It's pie in the sky impossible to a degree even roberts isn't capable of promising. Tony Zurovec said so. You obviously do not understand game development.
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Scruffpuff posted:Let me get this straight - if someone takes north of $100 million dollars to "make a game", and it turns out they never planned to, it's fraud and it's a clear-cut crime. But if someone asks the person "did you intend to make a game" and that person says "yes" and points to studios, employees, and poo poo - it's not a crime? 38 Studios intended to make a game, had employees and poo poo, and they're in a world of trouble. I really hate to think that CIG is going to get away with this simply because it can be proven that they "attempted" it. I know they're hiding behind the "donation" veil, but how much protection can that really offer? Is it fraud when the stupidity lies solely on the backers not knowing how inept the CEO is? Every time Chris opens his mouth, I realize he honestly is developmentally disabled, and in no circumstances should be in charge of this project. But we don't have investors to bring the hammer down, and we don't have a publisher to do it either. How can a shitshow based purely on the stupidity of the general public, a proven limitless resource, ever be brought to an end? Catching up reply: I think this is worse than 38 studios by far. Here you have CIG promising to build a game and raising $110,000,000 to do it. So expansive are the promises that at this point Star Citizen is no longer a game, it's an alternate reality where all of the sad autistics can go to finally be happy. It's a gigantic dream. They just haven't realized that the guy promising these dreams has decided to basically make Wing Commander The Movie 2, a game nobody asked for, wants, paid for or will actually buy. I mean yeah I'm sure autists will swear they have wanted Squadron 42 their entire lives to justify their broken worldview, but That's why you see all of the feedback and questions being about the fantastical alternate reality that everyone paid for, while all of the output is actually Wing Commander The Movie 2. Chris Roberts looks and sounds like a loving retard when he actually tries to talk about or deal with the game everyone wants, because it's not what is being made. The limit that will bring this whole thing to an end will be different for each backer, but at some point it will become undeniable. You would think most reasonable people would go "So how is the progress on our Space MMO. Oh you are spending millions motion capturing actors for a six inch thick script for ten hours of cutscenes? What?" You'll probably have a significant amount of people at the end blaming everyone else for the failure, but leading up to that point funding will start drying up as all of these people that are paying for their dreams finally realize it isn't happening. It's really just when the situation hits critical mass for the community and you start to lose more and more people that were previously more and more devout to the cause. Sure goons, investors and others have pulled their money out already once they saw disastrous demonstrations and the complete horse poo poo falling out of Chris Roberts mouth. Other people when they realized that most things Chris Roberts has made had to be taken away from him for just this reason. But you can't use logic and reason to change someones mind on a position they didn't use logic and reason to arrive at. So Chris Roberts is the savior of gaming and totally not objectively a loving hack with a proven record of disappointment and failure. I've read pretty much everything star citizen for the past couple years, and I'd say it hits critical mass this year. The PTU extended the charade for awhile. It's a psychological "FINALLY" moment for people, and the more you bite into it the dumber you are, but that keeps money flowing. It may not happen Q4 2016, but the psychological impact of another year passing (Q1 2017) with probably zero real progress toward what everyone paid for is what will dislodge most of the turds that will still come out of this butt. All of these people expecting a half dozen new systems and stations? Or any part of the sixty different proposed interlocking gameplay mechanics? None of that poo poo is getting done while Wing Commander The Movie 2 is being made, so every month they will start losing more and more people that are currently funneling their paychecks into the coffers for the dream. The limit on this entire endeavor is how badly each autist wants to be in this alternate reality. That's why the most broken people (Wesha) will be leftover at the end, they can't ever let go. If EightAce is right and they aren't even expecting to finish Squadron 42 before Q4 2017 or 2018 then the "Dream" is already dead, it's just down to how long it takes each person to admit it to themselves. I could be wrong, they might come up with some easy ways to get more money and limp along longer. When sales stop working they might release a second system in 3-6 months. Sure it will be empty, copy pasted elements, and just as broken as this system, hacked together functionality that wouldn't be in the final game (instance transition instead of actual jump gates) BUT PROGRESS GUYS. SYSTEM TWO!! 100% MORE SYSTEMS!! GAME HAS DOUBLED IN SIZE!! and that will suck up more millions. But eventually there is a limit.
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DigitalMocking posted:Let me tell you a little story about my father, a fully functioning stoner for the past 55 years of his life. He's been a small business owner most of his life and was a super hard worker (now retired). However, for every day of his life, he wakes up and gets stoned... didn't smoke much during the workday, but instantly hardcore stoned lying on the floor listening to moody blues records once work was over. I just wanna say this is an amazing story.
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ZenMaster posted:Getting in on 2300 Only 1900 pages to go!
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Tace Vim posted:My parp will go on... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_hIMvZTc1A
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2300 snype. 100 times my age in a few months! 
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Scruffpuff posted:Let me get this straight - if someone takes north of $100 million dollars to "make a game", and it turns out they never planned to, it's fraud and it's a clear-cut crime. But if someone asks the person "did you intend to make a game" and that person says "yes" and points to studios, employees, and poo poo - it's not a crime? 38 Studios intended to make a game, had employees and poo poo, and they're in a world of trouble. I really hate to think that CIG is going to get away with this simply because it can be proven that they "attempted" it. I know they're hiding behind the "donation" veil, but how much protection can that really offer? Is it fraud when the stupidity lies solely on the backers not knowing how inept the CEO is? Every time Chris opens his mouth, I realize he honestly is developmentally disabled, and in no circumstances should be in charge of this project. But we don't have investors to bring the hammer down, and we don't have a publisher to do it either. How can a shitshow based purely on the stupidity of the general public, a proven limitless resource, ever be brought to an end? Even if the crowdfunding veil did actually protect them I would like to think that "someone" at the relevant consumer protection authorities may be feeling an urge to "see to it" and at least enquire and see for themselves that the developer is managing the funds responsibly according to their own ToS and their own original "Pledge", and at least make consumers aware. At the very least. Even if there was no legal action undertaking at all, I think the most important aspect of all this at this moment, given the record size of this project, is to at least make the consumer aware of the state of accounts of the developer. This is the largest ever crowdfunding project and I reckon there are already plenty of worrying signs of funds mismanagement, delays or original kickstarter scope cuts that should be more than enough to trigger a minimum level of official scrutiny. Just do it! MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Toops posted:Are. You. Serious. No big deal guys, this is just a CEO talking about HIS 11% OF A BILLION DOLLAR PRODUCT. And this is what he's got. This. Every answer is dodgy, retarded loving word salad. It's prerecorded too. They cherry picked the questions and Chris had time to think about and discuss his answers or reshoot if wanted. This rambling mess is made under the easiest circumstances
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DigitalMocking posted:Let me tell you a little story about my father, a fully functioning stoner for the past 55 years of his life. He's been a small business owner most of his life and was a super hard worker (now retired). However, for every day of his life, he wakes up and gets stoned... didn't smoke much during the workday, but instantly hardcore stoned lying on the floor listening to moody blues records once work was over. Totally explains 10ftC.
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Google Butt posted:you know, based on the progress i've seen, i take mr roberts at his word and believe that the bio dome ship will be a reality yeah I am with you on that and while we are at it then lets add these pure possibilities like * the salvage ship wherein you pickup the debris of a blown up ship using the claw arms and you are able to watch it while it process it inside your ship * the hospital ship * the very complex mining ship * porn star ship * etc
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SomethingJones posted:That was my fists landing on the keyboard You liar. It's just the home row, no way that were your fists. You clearly understand nothing of keyboard development.
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EminusSleepus posted:yeah I am with you on that and while we are at it then lets add these pure possibilities like You know, if this were a real game.
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I just had an epiphany... Some clever goon, should use Sandi's "Interrogation" scene on her resume and do a "Hitler - Downfall" parody. Change the audio speech dubbing it with German, and insert sub-titles.. Thoughts?
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EightAce posted:...but other cash was raised against capital. 30 mill + GBP is what I've been told ? Total new raised of £30 mill?, or does that show both original left over plus new raised, together? Raised via regular debt? Or via direct investors? If that is true that is big for a game priding itself and advertising being 100% crowdfunded. And especially given that CR has stated numerous times that he has got enough funds to finish the game, as promised so far, even if pledges were to stop today. Raised against WHAT capital? MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Ravane posted:Does this loving idiot of a CEO even realize how little wheat actually sells for? No amount of Space weed or wheat could ever justify the purchasing this ship. I agree, wheat is for suckers. I'm going for wood like the guy in the jpeg 
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Ravane posted:Holy poo poo... I thought they'd be doing this on a space station, not a loving ship, hahahaha. Stardew loving Citizen, you've blown my mind again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TckJBvl_uT0 Everything is stolen from something else.
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darkarchon posted:You liar. It's just the home row, no way that were your fists. You clearly understand nothing of keyboard development. My fists are very tiny because they have only been in development for 0.08 seconds, and you would know if you bothered to do your research properly, that this means they are developing exponentially faster than any other fists ever. I could post proof but there is no point as you are a troll and also you are Derek Smart.
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Counting down until CIG pulls every single episode of 10FTC from the Internet. And makes mentioning it on the official forums a bannable offense.
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EightAce posted:As in: Why do you still work there? Get out and save yourself!
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For the probable incredulous new thread joiners: The above is old news and confirmed by Ben probably accidentally last year when trying to explain why they needed sales every month.
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EightAce posted:As in: Lol. Regular debt then. Debt needs to be repayed though. Not even Lloyds or RBS would have been reckless enough to offer a loan based on a webpage counter... If this is true then it means that at least someone in the bank industry may have had a chance to look at CIG financials? What fucks the mind is how on earth a company supposedly inundated in cash needs a loan for operating expenses. Unless of course... MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Turd Burglar posted:So you can totally destroy those biome ships right You can totally destroy them, leave your ship, and then grab some of the floating corn and eat it... in space!
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D1E posted:Why do you still work there? Did you read the part where he says that CIG has gotten some fresh money? to pay him with? EightAce posted:yes of course they will have done due diligence. However they will only have seen the actual cash in the bank and revenue stream back when the finances were a bit healthier. Remember that (None German) auditors are only interested in what they can see as tangible assets and revenue as they know the square root of gently caress all about game development etc.They simply wouldn't know where to look for warning signs ......... like this forum for example. HSBC games presents: Star Citizen! trucutru fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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EightAce posted:yes of course they will have done due diligence. However they will only have seen the actual cash in the bank and revenue stream back when the finances were a bit healthier. Remember that (None German) auditors are only interested in what they can see as tangible assets and revenue as they know the square root of gently caress all about game development etc.They simply wouldn't know where to look for warning signs ......... like this forum for example. Would be interesting to see the reaction and spin at the community were these news to be made public. SC not really 100% crowdfunded and needing bank loans for operating costs... goons gifs/memes would increase exponentially! There are obvious cases where loans make sense even if you have the cash, tax% higher than deductible loan interest% and all that, but somehow I suspect CIG´s interest/need in all this goes beyond that... MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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D1E posted:Why do you still work there? He's saving as many bank notes from the furnace as possible, a modern day Oskar Schindler.
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Hello commandos o7, I have lurked this thread for about 2 weeks and have come to the conclusion that Star Citizen is the greatest scam of all time, and thus this thread that chronicles the shameless denials of a thousand cultists is also the best thread of all time. What an age we live in  but I got a question. The robber baron behind this grand scheme "Crobberts" seems to be a rather enigmatic figure, can anyone tell me about his horrible misadventures in the gaming/film industry before his current master plan? Am willing to pay in cat picture(s)
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alf_pogs posted:hey EightAce what is morale like around the office this year? better than last year? on the bubble? would we see a mass exodus anytime soon? People are still being paid, what can I say.
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Toops posted:Yeah no doubt. I was thinking about changing up the leafy border with like barbed wire or something. Then it should be solid. If anyone has some shop-chops and a bitta free time, I'd be much obliged.   SVG v1 SVG v2 Daztek fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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SomethingJones posted:Q: Aside from shopkeepers, quest-givers and other NPCs considered essential in other games, are NPCs in a given area going to be generated randomly based on the current environment and the parameters set in the area? I like his use of the present tense "have", there.
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Sgt. Briar posted:Hello commandos o7, I have lurked this thread for about 2 weeks and have come to the conclusion that Star Citizen is the greatest scam of all time, and thus this thread that chronicles the shameless denials of a thousand cultists is also the best thread of all time. What an age we live in I rather enjoyed starlancer.
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