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vyelkin posted:Clash of Kings, the official Game of Thrones mobile game by Paradox Interactive. That's a brilliant idea, but with the IP involved it would probably cost Paradox too much to make.
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SeaTard posted:That's a brilliant idea, but with the IP involved it would probably cost Paradox too much to make. Telltale used it to make a pretty mediocre game. I think that did alright. 
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Mar 8, 2016 01:55
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Demiurge4 posted:
Space dolphins are close, Horatio is better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjIeBTaykPE
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Mar 8, 2016 02:15
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I mean Paradox has shown that they more-or-less get how to produce and support games well. They find niche titles and promote the hell out of them via streamers, build a ton of hype via word of mouth and watch the bucks from steam roll in. The DLC they've produced is often accompanied with free content, and they support their games for years and years. I'd be surprised if they flushed all that good will down the toilet since they seem to have a good feel for the PC market so far, but who knows. I'm not going to assume this is the end times, but I might be cautious after this wave of releases.
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Mar 8, 2016 02:17
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The real elephant in the room is -- are you guys gonna buy shares in it?
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Mar 8, 2016 02:54
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Absolutely. I have long resigned myself to never making money on the stock market, so now I just buy shares in companies I want to support. I've ponied up god knows how much in DLC over the years, time to go all in!
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Mar 8, 2016 02:56
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DrSunshine posted:The real elephant in the room is -- are you guys gonna buy shares in it? gently caress no, I'm already a paradox customer/addict, I'm already over-exposed to the risk and should diversify.
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Mar 8, 2016 02:56
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Psychotic Weasel posted:Off the top of my head I really can't think of any situations like this that had a demonstrably positive impact on things - yeah it's (probably) not EA buying them up but with a change in ownership and business model means that organizational changes aren't far behind. Yep. Depressing news to end a lovely day. 
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Mar 8, 2016 02:59
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cool and good posted:One of us confused about what an IPO is especially given Is it you? Because retaining a controlling stake in a company has nothing to do with an IPO; he could've just sold a part of the company to someone else privately and there's nothing to prevent him from just selling off what is does retain later to get out of the game. The way the press release reads it looks like some of their backers want to cash in on what they have and think they can get a better deal on the open market. When you take a company public you lose a certain amount of control over things. I'm sure the people who do drop a couple thousand/million dollars investing in the company would then expect to have no word whatsoever on what goes on. DrSunshine posted:The real elephant in the room is -- are you guys gonna buy shares in it?
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Mar 8, 2016 03:11
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They hinted at this when they bought White Wolf, though after it became clear they weren't going to do anything good with the World of Darkness I kind of stopped caring. That's kind of spilling over to this news- HoI IV has also taken so long it's kind of bled out my interest in upcoming Paradox games.
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Mar 8, 2016 03:17
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Kavak posted:They hinted at this when they bought White Wolf, though after it became clear they weren't going to do anything good with the World of Darkness I kind of stopped caring. That's kind of spilling over to this news- HoI IV has also taken so long it's kind of bled out my interest in upcoming Paradox games. They've had the rights for like 4 months, what exactly were you expecting by now?
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Mar 8, 2016 03:48
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I was going to buy a stock so I could be a protesting stockholder but probably some Nazis will do the same thing.
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Mar 8, 2016 03:50
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The chief minority owner is now...The nation of Bulgaria??? gently caress
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Mar 8, 2016 03:53
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:They've had the rights for like 4 months, what exactly were you expecting by now? It's the direction they've decided on (Focusing on the Classic World of Darkness, no indications that they're dealing with the more problematic or dated aspects of that setting, etc.)
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oscarthewilde posted:Jesus, do you people have any hope for the future left? One flimsy news article and weird tweet and suddenly all hell's breaking loose. SMDH We are in the timeline where Donald Trump might become president. What hope for the future is there?
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Mar 8, 2016 04:07
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I want to buy Parastocks
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Dibujante posted:Why are they doing it, though? Are their financials worse than we thought? We could all just buy another cosmetic DLC, Fredrik! We'll raise the money! Because it gives them access to the necessary capital to fund expansion and growth, and HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA because they're going to make sick loving megabucks and cash out.
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Psychotic Weasel posted:Is it you? Because retaining a controlling stake in a company has nothing to do with an IPO; he could've just sold a part of the company to someone else privately and there's nothing to prevent him from just selling off what is does retain later to get out of the game. The way the press release reads it looks like some of their backers want to cash in on what they have and think they can get a better deal on the open market. When you take a company public you lose a certain amount of control over things. I'm sure the people who do drop a couple thousand/million dollars investing in the company would then expect to have no word whatsoever on what goes on. You got a lot less hyperbolic in this post, now we can agree.
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Mar 8, 2016 04:23
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Speaking of mobile gaming, I'm still waiting for EU2 for PalmOS, Paradox! 
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Mar 8, 2016 06:11
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this is bad because not even half of you are being ironic
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Mar 8, 2016 06:29
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If it's listed on US exchanges, I'd probably buy a couple shares for kicks. Plus, I think PI's a good company, with a good business model and a strong customer base.
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Mar 8, 2016 06:45
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I'm in if it's on London or Hong Kong. I think it would be unwise to surrender majority control: the incentives of institutional investors aren't conducive to consistently pushing out high quality games. The pressure is more often to get out a minimum viable product and then only continue to develop if it looks like it's paying for itself. I'm sure that the paradox team has thought that through already though! And frankly they deserve to cash out: it's a great company.
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Mar 8, 2016 07:19
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I hope Wiz likes monthly KPI reviews. Better start padding your code with pointless comments so you meet your lines per hour productivity quota.
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Mar 8, 2016 07:22
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You guys are pretty silly. Your map games will be safe, I promise.
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Mar 8, 2016 08:44
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What happens when it turns out your investors end up wanting Rome 2? Or that Hellenistic DLC for CKII? You're hosed now Groogy. 
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V for Vegas posted:Hmmmm. Not sure how a business that constantly pushes back releases is going to deal with quarterly profit reports. Gotta keep that share price going up! Eh, I don't think there's much to worry about. Giving up a minority share of the company doesn't mean going full retard. DrSunshine posted:The real elephant in the room is -- are you guys gonna buy shares in it?
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Mar 8, 2016 09:23
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Y'all forget that they're gonna IPO in Sweden. The likely scenario is that some Swedish institutional investors like pension funds throw some money at them, end of story. I'm gonna chip in too if it's convenient enough across the Östersjön. 
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Mar 8, 2016 09:24
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Gamerofthegame posted:I like how Goons/The-Net-At-Large immediately think everything is going to go full-exaggerated EA whenever a company talks about this sort of thing. Or anything, really. Shareholders are flighty, superstitious animals who get spooked at the slightest little thing and sell all their stock in a panic. Shareholders are trash, and once your company is public you essentially become a parent to the most useless, whining, retarded children ever and spend the rest of your life walking on eggshells and doing nothing unexpected that might cause them to throw a fit.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:What happens when it turns out your investors end up wanting Rome 2? Or that Hellenistic DLC for CKII? RIP Paradox
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Mar 8, 2016 09:38
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Sure I'll buy some stocks. Watch Goons organize as stockholders and vote on poo poo. Ironic brony expansion is coming.
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Demiurge4 posted:Sure I'll buy some stocks. Watch Goons organize as stockholders and vote on poo poo. Ironic brony expansion is coming. I will buy stocks to prevent things like that from being made.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:What happens when it turns out your investors end up wanting Rome 2? Or that Hellenistic DLC for CKII? If this is the only way to make sure Victoria 3 gets produced then so be it. Who needs retirement funds anyway
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:The chief minority owner is now...The nation of Bulgaria??? I wish
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uPen posted:Horatio is better. This was going to be my answer The Cheshire Cat posted:Actually that reminds me of something I meant to ask - will you have to research communication/translation technology to be able to speak to alien races? Given that the game can be set up with multiple empires that are the same race (but potentially different cultures), it seems like it would make sense that you'd inherently be able to speak to your own people, but being able to speak with aliens might take a bit of work. Yeah. You also get to have a freeform First Contact war before relations are established, which is cool. Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:The chief minority owner is now... 
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If PDS is willing to make simulation and interaction a little less complex, they could easily put stuff like Stellaris on tablets. And new IPs made for mobile and consoles could use the platform even better. So even though the PC games will all be cancelled forever, there's a bright spot.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:If PDS is willing to make simulation and interaction a little less complex, they could easily put stuff like Stellaris on tablets. And new IPs made for mobile and consoles could use the platform even better. So even though the PC games will all be cancelled forever, there's a bright spot. Paradox are running a survey on mobile/tablet gaming that includes questions with regards to full ports (and the ability to continue a campaign from one platform to the other), mobile versions and companion apps. I don't know how well the games could be optimised to work on tablets without compromising the mechanics, but there is always the option of hosting the game on a server or cloud so that the bulk of the game's computation, data storage etc. isn't done client-side. I would have to assume that that would be really expensive to maintain, though.
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Oberleutnant posted:Shareholders are flighty, superstitious animals who get spooked at the slightest little thing and sell all their stock in a panic. Shareholders are trash, and once your company is public you essentially become a parent to the most useless, whining, retarded children ever and spend the rest of your life walking on eggshells and doing nothing unexpected that might cause them to throw a fit. So... the Paradox Forums?  Baronjutter posted:gently caress no, I'm already a paradox customer/addict, I'm already over-exposed to the risk and should diversify. Hedge your bets by buying shares of Activision and Electronic Arts! DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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DrSunshine posted:So... the Paradox Forums? or indeed gamers generally
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But whereas (paradox) gamers generally just threaten to boycott your game that portrays black people as having language or culture (and then buy it anyway and make a racist mod for it) shareholders actually can hold serious financial leverage over your company so you're obliged to put up with their poo poo.
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