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Are there any actual good dedicated mp3 players these days that aren't only like 8 gigs? I can't loving seem to find one, and this is frankly the place to ask. E: ughggh, new page. I have no content. I guess swiping credit cards are gonna be obsolete soon, since there's a new card reader. How bout that. DicktheCat has a new favorite as of 02:46 on Mar 12, 2016 |
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WebDog posted:Another alternative to hard drives Creative used were CDs assisted by large buffers to prevent skipping. Of course it meant carrying around a CD wallet as you didn't get that many MP3s onto 650mb. (man writing that makes me feel old). Early on, MP3 CD players were the cheapest way to get a decent number of tracks on an MP3 player. You could spend $200-$300 for a player with 512 MB of flash, 400$ for a hard drive player, or you could spend $100 and get an MP3 CD player which could store 600-700 MB with a single CD. My iRiver iMP-100 served me well during long commutes and through a temp job doing data entry. Although you were right about the crappy navigation. Using a tiny LCD screen that showed two or three filenames at once wasn't a pleasant way to find a song.
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Mar 12, 2016 02:48
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DicktheCat posted:Are there any actual good dedicated mp3 players these days that aren't only like 8 gigs? I can't loving seem to find one, and this is frankly the pkace to ask. All of the ones I've been looking at are sold to the Auidophile market, so they're really expensive with dubious build quality. I had a Cowon X9, wnad while it was excellent at what it did, could play any file format thrown at it and had a really good battery life, it also had a resistive touch screen, and the menu was generally garbage. This time I'm looking at a FiiO M3. It's only got 8gb internal storage, but supports MicroSD up to 64 gb. It's also reasonably priced and the interface doesn't look like garbage. http://www.head-fi.org/t/780622/fii...rs-hifi-earbuds
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Mar 12, 2016 03:01
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 Jazzmutant Lemur. It's a music control surface that was all the rage. Until the iPad launched and eventually refined itself to the point of completely consuming Jazzmutant. I think there's a Lemur app now. These things were HUGE for a time. Daft Punk, Justice, Glitch Mob, Deamau5, Hot Chip, NIN - these things were the poo poo for years and now they've been replaced by one function of iPads. One of the many things replaced by phones and tablets.
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Mar 12, 2016 04:54
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DicktheCat posted:Are there any actual good dedicated mp3 players these days that aren't only like 8 gigs? I can't loving seem to find one, and this is frankly the place to ask. Just get whatever version of the Sands Clip is for sale on Amazon. Yes, they're like 8gb base but most of them can take an SD card, so you can add another 32 or 64 or whatever.
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Mar 12, 2016 05:01
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Jmcrofts posted:I love old mp3 players. Anyone else own one of these? I still have mine. As far as I know it still works just needs to be charged. I got a Zen Vision:M afterwards. The Vision would constantly freeze and the only way to reset it was a small hole you had to stick a paperclip or a needle in.
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Mar 12, 2016 05:08
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Gobbeldygook posted:Just get whatever version of the Sands Clip is for sale on Amazon. Yes, they're like 8gb base but most of them can take an SD card, so you can add another 32 or 64 or whatever. The prices are getting ridiculous.
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Mar 12, 2016 05:08
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DicktheCat posted:E: ughggh, new page. I have no content. I guess swiping credit cards are gonna be obsolete soon, since there's a new card reader. How bout that. I think in some parts of the world they still use these and in others they don't even use the magnetic stripe readers, they use the chip instead, so I'm not sure which you're saying is going to be obsolete soon  
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Mar 12, 2016 05:41
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I do a double take every time credit cards come up online, I'm not sure if the US is behind or Australia is ahead for once (ahaha as if). We rarely if ever use the strips, and NFC has been widely accepted for years now. Of course NFC makes skimming easier than ever but it's new and convenient right? 
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Mar 12, 2016 06:07
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It's getting to the point where clerks will look confused when you swipe a card.
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Mar 12, 2016 06:22
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AlphaKretin posted:I do a double take every time credit cards come up online, I'm not sure if the US is behind or Australia is ahead for once (ahaha as if). We rarely if ever use the strips, and NFC has been widely accepted for years now. Of course NFC makes skimming easier than ever but it's new and convenient right? As someone stuck in retail in the US, I think it's mainly just a rather slow transition over to chips and NFC. The large chain that I work for only replaced their credit card pin pads with ones capable of reading the chips just weeks before the October deadline... but we still don't have the software to actually read the chips (Rumor is we'll get that in a month or so), so everything is still based on swiping the magnetic strips. We can't do NFC cards at all as far as I know, definitely can't do Apple Pay, and technically can do Samsung Pay but I've yet to see it work in fewer than three attempts and is an annoying pain to attempt to do a return for. The chip readers are becoming common elsewhere (I know places like Target and Walmart have gone over to them), since every new card comes with them, but a lot of places (Particularly small/local places) haven't updated yet and you still have a huge number of people who don't have chip cards yet. NFC really isn't a thing with cards here at all, I can't recall that I've ever even seen it attempted in four-odd years in some extremely busy places in South Florida (Which leads the country in fraud, gently caress yeah!). Of course, our entire store runs on an IBM system from 1991 that itself is full of weird quirks and probably outdated, while I get to use this annoying piece of poo poo which definitely fits this thread. 
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Mar 12, 2016 06:51
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Thanks for the advice regarding mp3. Also, yeah, I was saying the magnetic strips are becoming obsolete. The US has been super slow to change over, though. The place I work has the hardware for the chip readers, but can't use it yet. Have no idea what the issue is, but I'm sure the lovely computers can't help.
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Mar 12, 2016 07:10
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Man those chip and pin scanners where you insert your card are slow as poo poo. I'd rather swipe it.
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Mar 12, 2016 07:31
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DicktheCat posted:Are there any actual good dedicated mp3 players these days that aren't only like 8 gigs? I can't loving seem to find one, and this is frankly the place to ask. It pisses me off how a 64 GB ipod touch costs $50 more than the 80 GB ipod classic I bought in 2007.
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Mar 12, 2016 07:54
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AlphaKretin posted:I do a double take every time credit cards come up online, I'm not sure if the US is behind or Australia is ahead for once (ahaha as if). We rarely if ever use the strips, and NFC has been widely accepted for years now. Of course NFC makes skimming easier than ever but it's new and convenient right? I can't remember the last time I input a pin or signed a docket. It always amazes me that Australia is ahead in any technology.
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Mar 12, 2016 08:05
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Jmcrofts posted:I love old mp3 players. Anyone else own one of these? *32k, not the 128k of the gx. My gx died.
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Mar 12, 2016 08:29
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ElwoodCuse posted:It pisses me off how a 64 GB ipod touch costs $50 more than the 80 GB ipod classic I bought in 2007. Why? They're not even remotely comparable devices besides they both can play music. One's a media player, the other is basically a pocket computer with a touchscreen.
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Mar 12, 2016 08:36
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ElwoodCuse posted:It pisses me off how a 64 GB ipod touch costs $50 more than the 80 GB ipod classic I bought in 2007. inflation  edit: and stagnation
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Mar 12, 2016 08:48
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Buttcoin purse posted:I think in some parts of the world they still use these and in others they don't even use the magnetic stripe readers, they use the chip instead, so I'm not sure which you're saying is going to be obsolete soon Edit: with an embossing machine you might as well give them your card and leave it there. Don't use them. SLOSifl has a new favorite as of 08:58 on Mar 12, 2016 |
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Mar 12, 2016 08:54
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DicktheCat posted:Are there any actual good dedicated mp3 players these days that aren't only like 8 gigs? I can't loving seem to find one, and this is frankly the place to ask. However, if your music needs and wifi access overlap, just subscribe to Apple Music, google music or whatever and pin a playlist for offline access. As far as swiping credit cards, technically that should have ended last October in the US. Most people have chip cards now (and if not, get a new card with a chip, they have to issue them). If a business DOES NOT accept chip cards, and you get hacked or it's not a legit transaction, it's 100% on the merchant now. Edit: if you pay with a debit card for everything, get a credit card, set it to auto pay the full balance monthly and use that instead. You actually do want the extra layer in there. SLOSifl has a new favorite as of 09:15 on Mar 12, 2016 |
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Mar 12, 2016 09:09
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If you want, I've got an LG VM670 running Android 2.2.2 that you can stick an SD card into for all the space you want. It's got the extended battery, so it's a brick but it will last at least a dozen hours if not more, especially if you put it in airplane mode (and no reason not to). It's already been factory reset and just sitting around, so if someone wants to pay for shipping and maybe an optional little bit extra I'd be happy to send it to a good home
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Mar 12, 2016 09:42
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Buttcoin purse posted:I owned two MP3 players. I got some lovely store brand 512MB USB flash one for $5 well after everyone already had iPods, and later some Philips brand one for free with some other purchase because the store obviously couldn't sell them. I could never rationalize buying something with a hard drive in it that I was pretty sure was going to get wrecked pretty quick if I used it when I was walking or running like it was (I think) intended. I have an old RCA one I still use every now and then that runs for hours on a single AAA, too. For a while I was REALLY hesitant on any tech that didn't have a replaceable battery and I still sort of am. We've probably talked about them already, but about 12 or so years ago I remember when HP or Compaq had those little PDA things that were very popular for a few years. iPaqs or something like that. A coworker of mine was really excited the year she found one for cheap for her son who was in college or high school. I'm not sure how long those things remained a must-have thing, though.
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Mar 12, 2016 10:24
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Buttcoin purse posted:I think in some parts of the world they still use these and in others they don't even use the magnetic stripe readers, they use the chip instead, so I'm not sure which you're saying is going to be obsolete soon The UK is all chip and pin, with contactless getting pretty prevalent, but if you catch a Calmac ferry to the Outer Hebrides they still have these, due to not having a reliable internet connection, and it usually takes an extra month before they show up on your bill.
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Mar 12, 2016 11:05
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Mister Kingdom posted:The prices are getting ridiculous. Though I read somewhere that the Jam maybe has problems indexing over 1000 files, which sucks balls.
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Mar 12, 2016 11:10
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JediTalentAgent posted:We've probably talked about them already, but about 12 or so years ago I remember when HP or Compaq had those little PDA things that were very popular for a few years. iPaqs or something like that. A coworker of mine was really excited the year she found one for cheap for her son who was in college or high school. I'm not sure how long those things remained a must-have thing, though. Yeah I have an iPAQ sitting here on my desk gathering dust. It was out so I'd remember to recharge it every week to stop the battery from dying, because when I got it it was already about 7 years old and somehow still had a good battery. Oh well  It was $5, cheaper than upgrading to a smartphone, but one time I went to ask a guy at a store about some wireless router and got it out because I had some notes on there and he was like "wow I haven't seen one of those for a long time  "It ran Microsoft Pocket PC which was a variant of Windows CE I think. It came with "Pocket Word" and "Pocket Excel" which didn't save in the native formats, a calendar, solitaire I guess, I don't know what else. I downloaded some extra apps for it. One I think was still from Microsoft, it let you basically remote desktop into it from your PC, so at least if you wanted to edit some notes on there from your PC you could use the keyboard instead of the stylus. I also got a media player app which worked pretty well except you had to get out the stylus to change tracks, etc. (or tap on the screen with your finger nail I guess) Also got some app that let you use its IR transmitter as a remote control, you could fully customize everything on the screen like those fancy Harmony remotes but having actual buttons you don't need to look at is better than having just an LCD screen so I never used it much. Also downloaded some boring stuff like a decent image viewer, a decent task manager that let you kill processes, Adobe Reader, stop watch, and a notepad app that saved in plain text because that Pocket Word format was annoying. I certainly got my money's worth of use out of it for taking notes on though. I think I liked its handwriting recognition more than I like using swype on my phone but maybe I've just forgotten those sorts of frustrations. Oh here's one frustration I almost forgot to mention: I think the OS might be in flash, but all your apps and data are in RAM, so if your battery goes flat you lose everything. In a way it's a good thing, it teaches you to back up It was easy to back up (and restore, I "tested" that a few times too).
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Mar 12, 2016 13:01
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Flipperwaldt posted:You're probably thinking of the retired Clip or Clip+. There are current Clip variants for $30-$40. The only thing they lack is Rockbox support. Clip Jam and Clip Sport. They support SDHC, which means up to 32GB cards. The Clip+ seems to be the most recommended (I have two), while the newer one are getting mixed reviews.
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Mar 12, 2016 13:41
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DicktheCat posted:Are there any actual good dedicated mp3 players these days that aren't only like 8 gigs? I can't loving seem to find one, and this is frankly the place to ask. There's this loving thing which costs like a thousand bucks (not even kidding) http://www.astellnkern.com
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Mar 12, 2016 14:55
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eightpole posted:There's this loving thing which costs like a thousand bucks (not even kidding) And it's made by iRiver, with probably the exact same standard components inside.
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Mar 12, 2016 15:12
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Fo3 posted:Just saying, am I the only one that completely skipped mp3 players? I had this http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=760 (still do actually) plugged into my Handspring Prism. 32 MB of storage! It worked surprisingly well actually.
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Mar 12, 2016 16:22
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I miss my Archos Gmini XS200, that thing was great. I dropped it and broke the screen, it still worked but I couldn't see to change albums so it just played the same one over and over. I was going to replace the screen but they're proprietary and can't be had for love nor money, every single mention I found of it was other people asking where to get a screen for it and coming up empty. Those little 1.8" ide drives were surprisingly robust.
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Mar 12, 2016 17:06
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flosofl posted:Why? They're not even remotely comparable devices besides they both can play music. One's a media player, the other is basically a pocket computer with a touchscreen. I think the point was space, not functionality. I didn't have a phone with more space than my 20gb iPod until like 2009. That's mostly an Apple thing. They are stingier with disk space than most manufacturers (hence phones sold in 2015 with 8gb of storage).
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Mar 12, 2016 17:21
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eightpole posted:There's this loving thing which costs like a thousand bucks (not even kidding) Sony still make some decent dedicated (i.e. not a lovely Android video device with no physical buttons and poo poo battery life) players believe it or not. I think they only put sd slots on the more expensive ones though, including their own £500 insane player thats supposed to be for 24 bit audio where each album is like 1.5gb.
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Mar 12, 2016 17:56
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Do replacement batteries for the Clip+ exist? Mine only holds an hour of charge.
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Mar 12, 2016 18:05
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Lurking Haro posted:Do replacement batteries for the Clip+ exist? Mine only holds an hour of charge. Here's the instructions for the Clip. I can't imagine the Clip+ would be much different.
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Mar 12, 2016 18:49
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DicktheCat posted:Are there any actual good dedicated mp3 players these days that aren't only like 8 gigs? I can't loving seem to find one, and this is frankly the place to ask. Sony still makes a few models of Walkman that go up to 64GB if I recall correctly. I had a 16GB E344 for a long long time until the volume rocker literally rotted off the side of the device. Outside of Sony and some Chinese generic models I think the market is either old devices, or those audiophile bricks that I personally would never touch. While we're on topic, this is my entry for "old obsolete Mp3 player" 
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Turdsdown Tom posted:Sony still makes a few models of Walkman that go up to 64GB if I recall correctly. I had a 16GB E344 for a long long time until the volume rocker literally rotted off the side of the device. Outside of Sony and some Chinese generic models I think the market is either old devices, or those audiophile bricks that I personally would never touch. I loved the early versions of these, where it was basically a thumb drive that slotted into a power pack. I still have it somewhere, although it stopped working a long time ago.
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Mar 12, 2016 20:09
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Regarding standalone MP3 players: the Cowon M2 is an interesting alternative to the Sansa models. http://www.jetaudio.com/products/cowon/m2/ It has 90 hour battery life. 16GB internal memory, plus up to 32GB extra via MicroSD. It plays MP3, FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, WMA, etc. The interface is better than that of the Sansa Sport, although it still has its quirks. (My big thing is that it's easier to skip around album-length tracks.) It also has some JetEffect nonsense, which really does make a difference as far as sound goes. It also has some bells and whistles, like containing its own voice recorder and speaker, yadda yadda. The big downside, however, is that it does not play AAC/M4A. The other downside is that much of the interface uses a reactive touchscreen, although it also has physical buttons for the really important stuff.
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Fooley posted:I loved the early versions of these, where it was basically a thumb drive that slotted into a power pack. I still have it somewhere, although it stopped working a long time ago. Yeah, the Creative Muvo was awesome, also my first mp3 player.  It was a surprisingly sensible and good design, the rocker on the side made it really easy to change songs without looking at it, the screen was alright, and you just pulled it out of it's battery pack and plugged it into an usb slot to transfer stuff to it. ( The battery pack was just a plastic shell with a... AA? AAA? battery inside. ) Only complaint I had about it was that the belt-clipon that came with mine was really bad, and could barely hold the thing. I'm also pretty sure it didn't need any kind of software or anything to work with it, it just acted like a flash drive.
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Mar 12, 2016 21:35
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TheWeepingHorse posted:Regarding standalone MP3 players: the Cowon M2 is an interesting alternative to the Sansa models. also, I don't know about the new Sansa's but some or all of the old Sansa's had a very tiny built-in microphone on the back of the device. I only discovered this when I was trying to find an mp3 player my mom could use at work because her work doesn't allow any electronic device with recording or transmission capability.
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You're right about the price. Hrmm. I had a Sansa Clip, and it was perfect in every way. However, I had to replace it with a Sansa Sport, and I didn't like it nearly as much. YMMV.
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