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I daily drove arch for a while and could not get the drat fonts to look right
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Granbar posted:so is arch linux the best linux rhel, followed by centos, is the best
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OldAlias posted:fedora
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Granbar posted:so is arch linux the best linux Desktop: Fedora Server: RHEL/CentOS
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ratbert90 posted:Desktop: Fedora
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Granbar posted:so is arch linux the best linux Yes
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There is literally no reason to use anything other than arch. Rhel is the only alternative but only because it has corporate support. Everything else is a complete pile of broken poo poo.
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Mar 13, 2016 03:02
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qhat posted:There is literally no reason to use anything other than arch. Rhel is the only alternative but only because it has corporate support. Everything else is a complete pile of broken poo poo. It's too complicated
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Mar 13, 2016 03:07
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Smythe posted:It's too complicated That would be true if the complete opposite wasn't true
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sudo pacman -S idiot-program Too complicated. Lol.
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Silver Alicorn posted:running in a vm seems so pointless. it's like watching a porno vs. actual sex
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Mar 13, 2016 03:32
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it is more complicated you smuggo garbage nerd. it is true that anyone can follow a set of instructions, and it is more "simple" in some ways, but normal people have reasonable expectations for desktop operating systems, like for poo poo to just work without needlessly futzing around with internals and config files. arch devs also don't care if their updates break poo poo (i know "read the news", also gently caress you)
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i think that's kinda the point. if you're gonna use linux, either use the reliable one, or use the bleeding edge one.
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i use fedora 23 and i couldn't, in 5 minutes or less, find a way to install a jdk < 1.8. That makes no sense to me.
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OldAlias posted:it is more complicated you smuggo garbage nerd. it is true that anyone can follow a set of instructions, and it is more "simple" in some ways, but normal people have reasonable expectations for desktop operating systems, like for poo poo to just work without needlessly futzing around with internals and config files. arch devs also don't care if their updates break poo poo (i know "read the news", also gently caress you) Reading your post, I know now that you clearly have no idea at all what you are talking about. Cheers.
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what did you end up doing? i see there's poo poo like jEnv though i haven't used it, seems similar to perlbrew. if what i'm working on requires annoying specific tooling i'll usually just spin up a vm
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Mar 13, 2016 04:11
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The gently caress? Just install the JDK 1.7 rpm and then use alternatives to set it. 
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Like I think the only loving about with config files that I can remember was pulse audio when there was a very noticeable audio delay in some games, but that was the default pulse audio config and I had to make the exact same changes when I tried out Debian anyway. The only other complicated aspect of it is maybe doing the installation, but obviously that is one off and takes like ten minutes. And honestly, I can count on one hand the number of times a pacman upgrade has broken something, and every time it was something idiotic to do with GNOME, which thankfully I don't use anymore.
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If you're a mouth dribbling computer retard who couldn't care less about which crappy OS you run then yes arch might be a bit beyond you, but if you foresee being productive at all with your computer then you might be interested in using an OS which is totally transparent, easy to maintain, and contains libraries in its repositories which aren't loving years out of date, or aren't held back by idiotic free software ideology.
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Mar 13, 2016 04:23
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no normal people will think that is reasonable. i've used arch a lot to get use out of ancient machines with windows managers, it's fine. there is a lot more potential fuckery and it's more of a time investment.
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Granbar posted:so is arch linux the best linux I use manjaro w/ i3 on my laptop, it's based on arch but some other nerds do the bleeding edge testing before pushing to the repo. Maybe that would be something up your alley?
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qhat posted:If you're a mouth dribbling computer retard who couldn't care less about which crappy OS you run then yes arch might be a bit beyond you, but if you foresee being productive at all with your computer then you might be interested in using an OS which is totally transparent, easy to maintain, and contains libraries in its repositories which aren't loving years out of date, or aren't held back by idiotic free software ideology. arch broke xorg for me not long ago. idk dude needlessly janitoring my computer is the opposite of productive
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Arch is for people to mess with Linux, Fedora is for people to be productive on Linux.
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qhat posted:If you're a mouth dribbling computer retard Hello. That's me!
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so how long before oracle buys redhat, closes up everything as much as they can, and only lets people on maintenance contracts get even the smallest updates?
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Lysidas posted:i have never had a reason to use jetbrains' clion but i wonder how well it would handle the kernel clion owns a lot but: Cocoa Crispies posted:clion really really really wants to use cmake and the kernel uses Raymond Chen build code and id bet you couldnt do much more than open up a bunch of files and poke around
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qhat posted:If you're a mouth dribbling computer retard who couldn't care less about which crappy OS you run then yes arch might be a bit beyond you, but if you foresee being productive at all with your computer then you might be interested in using an OS which is totally transparent, easy to maintain, and contains libraries in its repositories which aren't loving years out of date, or aren't held back by idiotic free software ideology. 99% of computer users are retards who install an OS and never want to janitor it ever. It's the OS devs' responsibility to make poo poo work. ratbert90 posted:Desktop: Fedora Fedora doesn't come with the correct driver (e: and config software) for Lenovo nipple mice. suck my woke dick fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Mar 13, 2016 |
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:Fedora doesn't come with the correct driver (e: and config software) for Lenovo nipple mice. that's kind of a feature tho, nipple mice are piss garbage for idiots
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Install Gentoo
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i use fedora 23 and i couldn't, in 5 minutes or less, find a way to install a jdk < 1.8. That makes no sense to me. i bet you also didn't find gnome 2 or libc5 support go loving figure, a leading-edge distribution doesn't ship 10 year old deprecated software
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p.s. java 7 reached eol in april of 2015 https://java.com/en/download/faq/java_7.xml if you need 10 year old software to work, you can still get openjdk 7 updates in rhel
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Also Mint, which still has NO official Java 8 packages.
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CPColin posted:Also Mint, which still has NO official Java 8 packages. sounds like a good os
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anyone using mint should not be allowed to use a computer and the creators of that monster sent to gitmo
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 https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4aauib/lets_talk_about_the_free_software_dating_scene/ GNU Male posted:As a twenty year old single male I think it's very hard to find a girl who's actually interested in free software. I've had girls jokingly ask to "Netflix and chill" but when I tell her that I don't use Netflix since Netflix requires proprietary software to stream content, they stop talking to me. And worse if they do stay they think I'm weird since I blocked google IP's in my host file and we can't even watch youtube. I can't ever seem to get girls to come over to my place and I can't text them either. Once I get their numbers since I've added customs roms to my phone and refuse to use sms since it's a security concern I require all of my friends to download a free and open source messaging app and I share with them my public gpg key so that we can verify that our conversations are secure. None of my friends are willing to do this. And I can't use sites like tinder since it's not only proprietary software but a major privacy vulnerability. How come it is so hard to find a girl concerned about software freedom. I feel like I'm going to be a virgin forever. quote:You've made such extreme decisions to boycott commonly used things that you have made yourself pretty eccentric. You have greatly narrowed the field of possible mates by making such unusual and strict choices. Are you really surprised by your dating difficulties? It seems completely predictable to me. GNU Male posted:I don't see predictable. There has to be a sizable female population of free software advocates right? quote:No. Even among males, it is a ridiculously small slice of the population. Females, probably 1-2 orders of magnitude smaller. GNU Male posted:Then there's a need for a completely free software dating site then. Freemeet or openarms-opensource. Those are good names. I'll write my own site and I'll fix my own problem.
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Celexi posted:anyone using mint should not be allowed to use a computer and the creators of that monster sent to gitmo what's so bad about it?
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N.Z.'s Champion posted:
This guy is cool - and he's right.
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I think that might be a troll although there are some extremely autistic fuckers on any kind of tech-related reddit any talk of diversity in tech fields has some dude posting 2 seconds later saying 'let me tell you about sjws and reverse racism' TOOT BOOT fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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Soricidus posted:if you want to use a text editor in a terminal, just man up and learn to use vi or emacs imo. you're already using a 1970s user interface anyway, may as well go the whole hog Nobody wants to use a text editor in a terminal. For those cases when you have no choice, Nano is good.
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