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cool new Metroid game
Oct 7, 2009

hail satan

Can't change it in game either. Apparently you're locked to low if you have 2GB of VRAM.

Also for some reason the game skipped the intro cinematic for me. Had the usual Developers/Publishers/USE AMD BITCH! Multi ethnic etc screens but then it just went straight to the game and '20 years earlier...' I'm guessing this video is supposed to play, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01bYEelwwHc

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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Megadyptes posted:

Can't change it in game either. Apparently you're locked to low if you have 2GB of VRAM.

Also for some reason the game skipped the intro cinematic for me. Had the usual Developers/Publishers/USE AMD BITCH! Multi ethnic etc screens but then it just went straight to the game and '20 years earlier...' I'm guessing this video is supposed to play, right?

I think that plays after the tutorial.

The Tutorial from a plot perspective, mild spoiler:

The tutorial is back when 47 just started with the agency. You go through a few missions and at the end, you get christened as "Agent 47." The video you linked then plays to give a montage of all the badass stuff 47 does between then and Paris.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Megadyptes posted:

Can't change it in game either. Apparently you're locked to low if you have 2GB of VRAM.

Also for some reason the game skipped the intro cinematic for me. Had the usual Developers/Publishers/USE AMD BITCH! Multi ethnic etc screens but then it just went straight to the game and '20 years earlier...' I'm guessing this video is supposed to play, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01bYEelwwHc

For some reason that plays after the tutorial.

I was confused at the start too. Was it meant to be played literally seconds after beating Absolution?

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Trying to do house of cards on pro mode, I sneak into henrick smhickle (whatever the gently caress he's called) 's room,unpack my sniper rifle and pop the scientist across the way while he's in his room,at this point I just want to push schmeckle boy off the balcony when he comes to his room, nice and easy right? NO cause there's a civilian on a balcony WHO WILL NOT TAKE HIS EYES OFF SCHMECKLES BALCONY fuuuuuuuuuuuck!!! I've tried distracting him with coins but he inevitably just loving stares at me while i'm trying to ice the bastard. :negative: I had it all planned....

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Made a contract where I stabbed a guy while dressed as a chef and then wrote a long screed about cannabalism in the description. So that was fun. Really enjoying the game and the variety of dumb poo poo you can get up to.

Killing the targets by dropping one onto the other was a good laugh.

Mayor Defacto
Apr 21, 2010

UrbicaMortis posted:

Killing the targets by dropping one onto the other was a good laugh.

Is this on a loop or do I have just one chance to get them lined up?

Drowning fools in the toilet never gets old.

dublish
Oct 31, 2011


Silent Assassin Suit Only on Showstopper took a while because I really really really had to kill Dahlia with a silenced pistol.

Turns out you only get frisked once. Just go back downstairs and grab your gun and nobody cares. Or climb up the outside pipes I didn't know about at first.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

dublish posted:

Silent Assassin Suit Only on Showstopper took a while because I really really really had to kill Dahlia with a silenced pistol.

Turns out you only get frisked once. Just go back downstairs and grab your gun and nobody cares. Or climb up the outside pipes I didn't know about at first.

Wow, that needs a patch.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Having never played a Hitman game, what are people thinking about this latest incarnation so far, compared to Blood Money? I'm still debating dipping my toe in this (the newer, presumably more refined game, even if it's technically not done yet) versus the much older but proven entry in the series.

(ed) I've watched videos of both and it definitely seems like something I'd have fun with, though I'm less than certain about the Opportunities system or whatever it's called. Much as I actually do appreciate handholding, it seems like it might be a little too much so for a game like this. Am I wrong?

(ed again: I'm one of those weirdoes who has trouble playing older 3D games because of how badly they tend to age, otherwise I'd probably have just bought BM and been done :shrug:)

Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Mar 13, 2016

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
Doing a contract was what led me to discover the the pipes that lead up to the third floor. Even though it makes it easier because no one finds you suspicious doing it I kind of like being able to just sneak my up there especially because the first time I did it one of the auctions guests that saw me climb onto the balcony was all like, "That's cool as poo poo, how did you learn to do that?"

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Ciaphas posted:

Having never played a Hitman game, what are people thinking about this latest incarnation so far, compared to Blood Money? I'm still debating dipping my toe in this (the newer, presumably more refined game, even if it's technically not done yet) versus the much older but proven entry in the series.

Blood Money is one of the best stealth/adventure games ever made and I'd definitely consider it better than the new version (so far)

cool new Metroid game
Oct 7, 2009

hail satan

I've been loving around the tutorial level for about two hours now and I'm quite liking it.

I did just have this happen though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrXedA91WxY

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
So I didn't feel like doing my usual sneaky routine in Paris and decided to see how many people I could kill before I got completely rumbled and killed, and I actually finished the mission, I just tossed a knife at Dahlia and shot Victor as he was being escorted to the safe room, I actually did most of the killings dressed as the Sheikh who came running when I turned on a radio in the bathroom.

It was fun to not care about stealth and just murder everyone in your path and doing it in ways that don't get you spotted, and if you do get spotted, killing them before they can alert anyone else.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Mayor Defacto posted:

Is this on a loop or do I have just one chance to get them lined up?

Drowning fools in the toilet never gets old.


You get to the auction room and set off the fireworks display. Victor comes outside downstairs to rant at them being set off early and Dahlia goes to the balcony above him to look. Push her off and she lands on Victor killing them both.

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Blood Money is one of the best stealth/adventure games ever made and I'd definitely consider it better than the new version (so far)

I'm finding it to tough to tell. Blood money is literally my favourite game of all time and linked to a bunch of nostalgic memories, so this new game could be the best thing ever and still be unable to measure up in my mind. That said, I think it's very good and modernises a lot of stuff from blood money that needed to be modernised. I'd need to see more than one level before I could really make a judgement. The fashion show is a great level but it has to face against levels like a House of Cards and A New Life, which were both amazing in very different ways.

I am a little concerned that the episodic model will mean we won't get any tight contained levels like A New Life since the model calls for big levels each time to make buying the individual episodes worth it. I'm hoping they might throw in some small levels along with the next big one, kind of like the demo levels.

Antifa Spacemarine
Jan 11, 2011

Tzeentch can suck it.
PSA: There's a battleaxe on the first floor near the woman who is calling for a camera lens.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
If all the missions are at the very least of similar quality as these first three, I think new Hitman will definitely be better than Blood Money. Any problems new Hitman has can be patched.

Also The Church of Ascendants are totally going to be the overarching villains.

Boosted_C5
Feb 16, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 years!
Grimey Drawer

Ciaphas posted:

Having never played a Hitman game, what are people thinking about this latest incarnation so far, compared to Blood Money?

I finally just got around to playing Paris. It was way too easy IMO, BUT I did murder each mark in person and haven't tried the fireworks show, poison, other accidents, etc. I pushed the dude into the water after his meeting outside, I killed the woman in private in the room next to the auction that has a bathroom attached. I think I knocked out a total of 3 or 4 people to complete the level and get SA and 5 stars. I'm lokking forward to having fun with it now and exploring the entire level, and killing the targets in other ways.

I do think it's a great game so far. BUT I do think only having 6 maps in the end is going to hurt it. I hope they change their mind and add more, even if it's DLC. Either that or I hope they're already working on another game.

I've sunk hundreds of hours into Blood Money, and was so excited for and then disappointed by Absolution. FINALLY it feels like we have a worthy successor to Blood Money.

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.
I kind of love how the security guards' dialogue is very deliberately made to be as insufferably lovely as possible when you're in certain disguises, mainly the waiter and the dresser. "Smile for that extra tip!" "Keep those glasses full!" "Can't have you prancing around upstairs, you pussies need to get a real job!". Makes for some real cathartic contract fodder though I'm sure plenty of ~gamers~, especially hitman forums users, will hear that last comment and think "yeah!!!!"

Ciaphas posted:

Having never played a Hitman game, what are people thinking about this latest incarnation so far, compared to Blood Money? I'm still debating dipping my toe in this (the newer, presumably more refined game, even if it's technically not done yet) versus the much older but proven entry in the series.

(ed) I've watched videos of both and it definitely seems like something I'd have fun with, though I'm less than certain about the Opportunities system or whatever it's called. Much as I actually do appreciate handholding, it seems like it might be a little too much so for a game like this. Am I wrong?

(ed again: I'm one of those weirdoes who has trouble playing older 3D games because of how badly they tend to age, otherwise I'd probably have just bought BM and been done :shrug:)

Opportunities can be turned off entirely (including the submenu that lists them), as can Instinct and the minimap. The only thing in that regard that you can't bring back from BM is a live map, since the game pauses when you look at the map screen.

Accordion Man posted:

If all the missions are at the very least of similar quality as these first three, I think new Hitman will definitely be better than Blood Money. Any problems new Hitman has can be patched.

The only thing previous (proper) HM games have over this one IMO is consistency of AI routing and more natural, less SHARE THIS SWEET KILL ON YOUTUBE type "opportunity" design (also difficulty select and post-mission papers seriously come ON IOI). Otherwise, yeah, I have a fair bit of confidence in this now. The jank is a real bummer but unlike certain modern releases the division there seems to be a genuinely well-designed game underneath the woes of modern game publishing.

I also feel like IOI has grown up a bit while still retaining a sense of humour that's not "aren't minorities just so gross and weird???", though some shots in the trailers (most recent gameplay one included) suggest it might go down that route, and like everything else, it's best to reserve judgement 'till we've played more.

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

The one thing I'd advise new players to do is shut off opportunity indicators / menus. Like I'm not the sort of guy who's mad at ~casuals~ all the time, but the whole notion of spelling out all the creative ways to get at your targets in painstaking detail just smothers everything that was wonderful about Blood Money.

There's also the fact that only certain methods will set off the chain reactions that are the hallmark of the best BM missions. Having to kill the opera singer and then immediately figure out a way to pin down the ambassador, or killing one costumed assassin and then rushing to find the others before they figure out what's happening, added a climactic feeling to missions that's lacking in Paris. I can up and shoot a dude while he's standing in front of an adoring crowd and there's no sense of chaos or pandemonium at all.

Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Mar 14, 2016

Shrinkage
Oct 23, 2010
Did anyone talk about how the fireaxe is the best weapon yet?

Because the fireaxe is the best goddamn weapon.

Boosted_C5
Feb 16, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 years!
Grimey Drawer
Why does Steam allow morons to spam reviews for a game complaining about problems on their end like garbage GPU or bad internet?

I decided to write a quick review for the first time ever and holy crap the page is spammed with crybaby idiot reviews whining about online-only from people who I guess don't have reliable high-speed internet? I mean, what is the problem with needing an online connection, how in the hell else would you use steam and download games in the first place?

TheShrike
Oct 30, 2010

You mechs may have copper wiring to re-route your fear of pain, but I've got nerves of steel.
I for one love the instincts and guides and all that jazz. Lot's better than spending the precious time I have wandering around a level aimlessly trying to figure poo poo out for hours. Love the new trend of appealing to casuals, gets rid of all the grognardy aspects but still lets you have the authentic experience.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
I think the thing about opportunities is they would be bad if it was literally all there was in the level. I felt like that was a big issue in Absolution - it seemed like every method of killing your target outside of just running up and shooting them was some pre-scripted event. In the new one though there's lots of other little things you can use outside of opportunities - they make a point to have the targets just wander around a lot, drinking and eating various things you can poison, standing under chandeliers, etc. that isn't specifically pointed to by an opportunity but you can spot it if you follow them around and watch their patterns. Opportunities are just a way to show you how to trigger certain events in the level, and not all of them lead directly to a kill - sometimes they just change your target's behaviour or get you in to another part of the map.

Basically, they're just there as more things for you to play with, they don't just hand you the level on their own. Plus as mentioned, you can turn off the tracking if you don't like the popups - the events themselves will still be there if you know what to do; you just won't have the UI pointing you where to go.

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

Boosted_C5 posted:

Why does Steam allow morons to spam reviews for a game complaining about problems on their end like garbage GPU or bad internet?

I decided to write a quick review for the first time ever and holy crap the page is spammed with crybaby idiot reviews whining about online-only from people who I guess don't have reliable high-speed internet? I mean, what is the problem with needing an online connection, how in the hell else would you use steam and download games in the first place?

It's a valid complaint, if your internet so much as hiccups for a few seconds (which most ISPs do), it's not a big deal with a download, but it's a huge deal with a game that will immediately boot you out of whatever you're doing, leaving you at the mercy of a fickle autosave. The servers have also gone down several times in the past couple of days and the leaderboards are seemingly broken, so they haven't been handling the online part of their always-online game too well on their end either.

And hey, some peeps just don't have internet for a while, it happens, and singleplayer games are usually a way to play games without needing internet, not to mention the long-term idea that most of the games' content could be wiped out without a trace should the publisher desire. There's no need to defend major companies doing dumb crap like this, even if armchair developer r/games-types will find a way to be as insufferably smug as possible about it regardless of context.

Also don't read Steam reviews, seriously. There's a reason creepy anime porn made by actual unambiguous real-life scumbags has been making it into the top releases and front page a lot recently, and it's not because the Steam community's most vocal/least financially burdened members are decent standup folks.

cool new Metroid game
Oct 7, 2009

hail satan

I got disconnected from the server earlier briefly which was annoying. Thankfully the game autosaves quite often so I didn't lose too much progress. Still shouldn't happen in a single player game, though.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
Some of of the opportunities are locked by having you be there start them which sucks, but there's a good chunk that don't like Helmut in the Paris level. You don't have to overhear that dialogue at all to find him and he actually has a set schedule independent from you that eventually leads him to talk with Dahlia.

Also the Minimal option is good because it tells you that they exist but still have to find everything on your own.

cool new Metroid game
Oct 7, 2009

hail satan

I always roll my eyes a bit when the dev/publisher feels the need to put ™©® in the name of the game in your Steam library but I just noticed that the game folder has a ™ as well. I'm surprised the executable isn't HITMAN™.exe

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
i wonder how much they'd be willing to change before they get to the finish

cause gameplay is pretty half and half so far. like all the small details theyve completely ignored or just quality of life things to make the game feel "harder" because thats totally what blood money was.


Moartoast posted:

I also feel like IOI has grown up a bit while still retaining a sense of humour that's not "aren't minorities just so gross and weird???", though some shots in the trailers (most recent gameplay one included) suggest it might go down that route, and like everything else, it's best to reserve judgement 'till we've played more.

or maybe they didnt have enough budget to hire more voice actors so we're gonna be stuck with american npcs in france, japan, and spain

Booty Pageant fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Mar 14, 2016

Jintor
May 19, 2014

Boosted_C5 posted:

I decided to write a quick review for the first time ever and holy crap the page is spammed with crybaby idiot reviews whining about online-only from people who I guess don't have reliable high-speed internet? I mean, what is the problem with needing an online connection, how in the hell else would you use steam and download games in the first place?

it's not my connection I'm miffed about. It's theirs.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Ended up deciding to just buy in to the newer Hitman intro, with the compromise that I'll turn opportunity display to Minimal (or Off? Opinions? Never played Hitman before, remember). Just can't stand old 3D games, mostly :(

abagofcheetos
Oct 29, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Do you need to complete every single objective in order to reach level 20? It doesn't seem like it but I dunno if the XP changes or anything.

cool new Metroid game
Oct 7, 2009

hail satan

Minimal is alright, it tells you that there's an opportunity trigger thing and gives a hint of what to do but doesn't have a big waypoint marker holding your hand.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

abagofcheetos posted:

Do you need to complete every single objective in order to reach level 20? It doesn't seem like it but I dunno if the XP changes or anything.
I don't think you do. I'm Level 17 and there still a lot of assassination challenges all worth 5000 or so points I still need to do. I also need to really get through the Mr. Reaper approach because I just found the IAGO invitation.

Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Mar 14, 2016

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Just finished the first tutorial in Hitman 2016 and now I'm quite sad I haven't tried this series before :(

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Hm, even on Minimal the game just up and told me "hey, your target has to test the safety systems. WINK." I know I said I appreciate handholding but dang that seems a bit much.

(edit) Feel like I'd need to keep Instinct on though, I'm fecking rubbish at recognizing particular people in a crowd, I can tell already.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

Ciaphas posted:

Just finished the first tutorial in Hitman 2016 and now I'm quite sad I haven't tried this series before :(

If you like this one but feel like you can't wait for the next levels to come out after finishing Paris, then the next game you should try is Blood Money - it's the most similar to Hitman 2016 in terms of overall design - the others are either a really hit and miss experience (the pre-blood money ones) where some levels are great but others are terrible, and Absolution is an okay stealth game but is a lot more like Splinter Cell than Hitman.

Jintor
May 19, 2014

Just turn opportunities off entirely. The game is designed well enough that most conversations will be obvious what the opportunity is, and there's a tab hidden away in your menu/select thing that will let you in on 'intel' without explicitly telling you what you need to do to activate the opportunities.

The only thing I think the game really needs to figure out better is a way to determine which enemies think you're suss without having to leave the white dot UI on.

TheShrike
Oct 30, 2010

You mechs may have copper wiring to re-route your fear of pain, but I've got nerves of steel.
So played Paris for a while doing like half of the challenges and then just got bored. Booted up Alekhine's Gun for the first time, and dude it just feels a lot better with the mission flow. Hitman doesn't have a flow, and at most I think this level really has in terms of like, novel experiences, is 1 hour or so.

Try Alekhine's Gun guys, its some nice classic stealth action. I guess I'll play 2 more hours of Hitman next month when the next ep comes out? Hitman series just became a boring CBS weekly show guys haha.

Real Cool Catfish
Jun 6, 2011
Having a lot of fun. gently caress whichever poster brought up the Blood Money sniper rifle case. I'd forgotten how great unpacking that thing was, and now there's a big gaping hole in the latest game.

A hole I'm tempted to fill with the silly costume I stumbled across in the attic and, I don't know, a fire axe. It'll have to wait til tomorrow.

Sticking with sniping for a sec, the "launch fireworks, snipe them both in 10 seconds" mission became a lot more tense when I couldn't immediately save afterwards, and had to avoid the guards. Going to have to track down the key for the boat at the back of the map, had to sheepishly backtrack to the helicopter. Thank god that didn't need a key.

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Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Y'know I wish things like "that's not ricin, that's rat poison, you cannot poison his chess pieces and furthermore you are not a goddamn poet" would occur to me sooner :saddowns:

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