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Erin Andrews: ESPN Forced Me To Go On TV And Talk About My Stalkerquote:Q: So did ESPN require that you give an interview? http://deadspin.com/erin-andrews-espn-forced-me-to-go-on-tv-and-talk-about-1762058985 The worst corporate culture.
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Mar 1, 2016 03:17
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AsInHowe posted:Erin Andrews: ESPN Forced Me To Go On TV And Talk About My Stalker The replies to Deadspin's tweet for this story are basically as low as the internet can sink
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ElwoodCuse posted:The replies to Deadspin's tweet for this story are basically as low as the internet can sink I took a look and found the tweets to be remarkably tame next to the rape/murder threats I was expecting. Still, gently caress those people.
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FS1 continues its race to the bottom:quote:SI.com has learned that Fox Sports 1 will cut a number of features and news producers from its network over the next few weeks, another blow for those viewers hoping to see the network compete with ESPN in the areas of journalism, reporting and storytelling. Fox Sports is also expected to see a significant number of veteran employees leave via buyout over the next two months. Some of the departures will start as early as Tuesday. Morale at Fox Sports' L.A. office, is very low, according to staffers. A Fox Sports spokesperson declined comment on the loss of production talent. Can't wait for the Hot Take Network to get, like, 20 more viewers than before.
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Mar 14, 2016 03:59
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If hiring Regis wasn't enough to get FS1 rolling, then I'm not sure what else they could have done
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Mar 14, 2016 04:22
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FS1 was always doomed to fail. Rupert Murdoch's ego puts Donald Trump's to shame.
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I still will never understand how FS1 was supposed to compete in an era where ESPN was already starting to decline
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Benne posted:FS1 continues its race to the bottom: It'll get less viewers because even ESPN does cool stuff every now and then that isn't just hot take horseshit.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I still will never understand how FS1 was supposed to compete in an era where ESPN was already starting to decline It's like all the people that tried to make World Of Warcraft after it had already peaked or whatever.
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Mar 14, 2016 15:17
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AsInHowe posted:Erin Andrews: ESPN Forced Me To Go On TV And Talk About My Stalker Not that I ever feel any remorse for Craig James, but they did the same thing to him when his son got stuck in that garage by Mike Leach. He was somewhere preparing to call a football game the next day and they refused to let him call the game if he didn't do an interview on air about the allegations first.
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CBS deserved this rating https://twitter.com/AustinKarp/status/709404557177188352
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Don't worry, within a few years they'll turn it into a three-day event like the NFL did with the draft.
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Timby posted:Don't worry, within a few years they'll turn it into a three-day event like the NFL did with the draft.
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Mar 15, 2016 07:49
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Ramadu posted:Was it actually that bad? It really was. There was a five minute segment of Barkley fumbling with a touch screen as he more or less explained that he doesn't watch college basketball, and he picked the higher seed in every single game. In the time it took to get through that, we historically would've been on to the third region. This was the entire segment after the first region was revealed.
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Mar 15, 2016 07:57
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Ramadu posted:Was it actually that bad?
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Ramadu posted:Was it actually that bad? 20-year low ratings are impossible to spin good. CBS took a huge gamble expanding a show they're usually bullet-proof on, and everything that could go wrong did go wrong. They spent way too long revealing the brackets, people tuned out with frustration and the bracket leaking early was the final kiss of death. If you're afraid this will turn into an NFL Draft-esque marathon, I have this to say -- people actually watch the primetime draft. The ratings justify its drawn-out nonsense, so they'll keep doing it. The 2-hour Selection Show was an unmitigated disaster and had record-low ratings. There's no way this experiment will last longer than a year.
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Henchman of Santa posted:It really was. There was a five minute segment of Barkley fumbling with a touch screen as he more or less explained that he doesn't watch college basketball, and he picked the higher seed in every single game. In the time it took to get through that, we historically would've been on to the third region. This was the entire segment after the first region was revealed. I didn't watch it but someone told me they went 30 minutes between showing regions or something like that, which is hilarious and terrible.
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Akileese posted:I didn't watch it but someone told me they went 30 minutes between showing regions or something like that, which is hilarious and terrible. They were 50 minutes in when the bracket leaked and there were still two regions to go.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:43
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That bracket leak was the most perfect middle finger to that whole thing.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:45
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The ratings for the NFL Draft and the Pro Bowl are intervention-level troubling
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ElwoodCuse posted:The ratings for the NFL Draft and the Pro Bowl are intervention-level troubling The draft definitely. The Pro Bowl probably has less interest than the Senior Bowl and the drat combine. That's why it's one of the only things the NFL keeps loving with - moved to before the Super Bowl, changing locations, all that.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:06
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The dude who leaked the bracket and then immediately deleted his account the next day was a hero
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Mar 15, 2016 15:10
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Badfinger posted:The draft definitely. The Pro Bowl probably has less interest than the Senior Bowl and the drat combine. That's why it's one of the only things the NFL keeps loving with - moved to before the Super Bowl, changing locations, all that. The Pro Bowl gets better ratings than the goddamn World Series.
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Henchman of Santa posted:The Pro Bowl gets better ratings than the goddamn World Series. But worse than the MLB all star game.
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Henchman of Santa posted:It really was. There was a five minute segment of Barkley fumbling with a touch screen as he more or less explained that he doesn't watch college basketball, and he picked the higher seed in every single game. In the time it took to get through that, we historically would've been on to the third region. This was the entire segment after the first region was revealed. Charles vs. Technology while Ernie/Kenny/Shaq taunt him should be an hour show by itself.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I still will never understand how FS1 was supposed to compete in an era where ESPN was already starting to decline The way Fox Sports has handled things the past few years has really just been a really big clusterfuck. What we see now with ratings declines at ESPN were going to be sort of obvious with Fox Sports as well given the amount of people willing to cut the cord and so on. The Thing that can drive ratings for other programming is live sports. Live sports is a weird thing where most people, myself included, do find it weird to watch DVR'd or non live sports things. It feels weird, which is why sports fans continue to pay for stupid big cable subscriptions so they can have ESPN. Sportscenter can still get good ratings because their lead ins are NBA games and marquee sporting events. Fox has a few things going for it but not much. Challenging ESPN was dumb, because its like ADIDAS challenging Nike. Nike owns 90 percent of the market, so just play to your strengths and at least own the fringes. It never made since to me that even though Fox has an incredibly good partnership with UFC they don't do more with it? Why not have more UFC Centric programming? Also, when they brought Jay and Dan, why not give them a once a week hockey show? NHL rights are the cheapest around and Jay and Dan love hockey. It was obvious when we'd feed down highlights they often could not give two shits about a random basketball highlight but would definitely be more into the NHL stuff. On top of that, the reason Jay and Dan were "funny" is the same way we found the classic era of ESPN sportscenter anchors funny. It's because they were good at their base job, but given just enough freedom to have personalities and put spins on things. Fox Sports Live internally near the end was just spinning out ideas that were half baked and forcing people to "find the funny" which often meant, "FORCE THIS SPORTS HIGHLIGHT WITH NO INHERENT COMEDY FACTOR TO BE FUNNY." Or in other words, force people to work too hard to be sort of creative for a 45 second highlight. The latest move to hot-take central is a stupid and shortsighted move. Colin Cowherd's ratings are awful and I'm still not clear who this is for. It airs midday on the east coast and it misses the drive time slot for the west coast. Cowherd's show of course is one of the few that basically didn't have any layoffs that I'm aware of. With Whitlock show coming its going to be even more insufferable. I know they gutted the news room staff, fired a bunch of graphics people, random support people, and they also cut the highlights department in half. Not to mention, and this is perhaps by design, the people who are left are all in a very negative mood and are all trying to get the hell out of there anyways. Also to fill time after Cowherd they play the worst loving thing, 'The Best Thing I Herd' which is basically a highlights show Cowherd's own loving show. Its so stupid. Having a radio show on TV is stupid. It can work sometimes, but really they should have modeled it much more after Sportsnation. Look, I don't like that show but at least it "gets it." More reliance on video, funny internet poo poo, it's bright and visually appealing. I feel bad for Kristine Leahy who by all accounts is a loving pro and extremely nice who has to do that lovely show. soggybagel fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Mar 18, 2016 |
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FS1 really should've taken a page from NBCSN. NBCSN is never, ever going to touch ESPN, but they were smart enough to know that and wisely went after the niches, becoming the go-to home of NHL, Premier League and Formula 1. The ratings aren't big, but they make up for it with solid, respected coverage of the sports they do own. FS1 had a chance to do that, since they're the only game in town for UFC and expanded their soccer coverage. But instead, they started off as a weird Diet ESPN, complete with knockoff pundit shows ("ESPN has NFL Live, so we must have FOX NFL Daily") and the now-infamous attempt to go head-to-head with College GameDay. They never found a real identity, and once they did that identity became "gently caress it, let's hire ESPN's professional trolls." But those trolls don't even lead to bigger ratings, so now the channel has become a punchline. If they didn't have important soccer stuff (Champions League, Women's World Cup, Bundesliga, Euro 2016) I would never have a reason to watch FS1. Even still, I barely have a reason to watch -- once the soccer stuff is over I switch away as fast as possible. It's a shame because I love a lot of FS1's individual talent. Katie Nolan is great, Jay and Dan are still good, Rob Stone has evolved into a great studio anchor for soccer and, hell, I kinda like Alexi Lalas even though I probably shouldn't. They're just trapped in the vortex of hot takes right now. Benne fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Mar 18, 2016 |
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I'm with Benne on this. NBCSN has done a hell of a job with the Premier League and NHL. FS1 seems stuck in no-man's land right now, and it's a shame given the talent they have available. I could give a poo poo less about the UFC but yeah if that's your trump card you might as well go all-in on it. I don't know who owns the specific rights to what though, between Fox, UFC and... is Zuffa still a thing? They seemed to have their name attached to Ultimate Fighter and some of the free PPV events.
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The problem is the "good" cards are ties up on fox and they only get c tier cards on fox sports (and prelims). Afaik they are paying a lot and so those big cards they dont want to waste on FS1 so they hype them on football and put them on fox proper.
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The other thing that is insane to me is that they have never leveraged the fact that they're in LA. Thousands of hungry talented young people who are smart and funny out here. Go hot take central but make it a youth movement. You can get a ton of inexpensive highly creative people who can do it all. I.E. Edit produce write and appear in front of camera.
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soggybagel posted:The other thing that is insane to me is that they have never leveraged the fact that they're in LA. Thousands of hungry talented young people who are smart and funny out here. Go hot take central but make it a youth movement. You can get a ton of inexpensive highly creative people who can do it all. I.E. Edit produce write and appear in front of camera. Basically try and find another few Katie Nolan types, churning out shows on a shoestring budget? I'm down, not everybody will be as fun as her, but certainly would be better than trying the imitation approach.
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It's stupid the money we are paying for Whitlock and cowherd. No one is like "it's 2pm?! Turn it to channel 755...WHITLOCK IS ON!!!"
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FS1 couldn't do an NHL show because they don't have the rights. NBC has those and the regional rights don't extend to a parent national network, or however those contracts work. Besides, it's not like the NHL's ratings are good enough to drive a show that's not immediately attached to a game broadcast, much less an independent show that has far less access to video/talent.
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DJExile posted:I'm with Benne on this. NBCSN has done a hell of a job with the Premier League and NHL. FS1 seems stuck in no-man's land right now, and it's a shame given the talent they have available. Zuffa is just the parent company of UFC
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C. Everett Koop posted:FS1 couldn't do an NHL show because they don't have the rights. NBC has those and the regional rights don't extend to a parent national network, or however those contracts work. They could build a show around highlights and analysis specifically focused on the NHL. I'm not even saying broadcast an NHL game on FS1. I realize NHL isn't a big ratings machine but again, I think they should try to own the fringes.
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soggybagel posted:They could build a show around highlights and analysis specifically focused on the NHL. I'm not even saying broadcast an NHL game on FS1. I realize NHL isn't a big ratings machine but again, I think they should try to own the fringes. One of the issues around that is if you don't have the rights, it limits the amount of highlights you can use. Last I recall it's only like around 5 minutes per :30/:60, but that was however many contracts ago. It was the reason why ESPN shut down NHL2Nite once they lost the NHL contract. There's also the matter that if you're not their media partner or going to give you worthwhile exposure, teams/players aren't going to go out of their way to give you access for interviews or the like. So now you have a :30 show that's limited in footage it can use and in exclusive interviews/content it can claim, so it comes down to talking heads about a sport that's not terribly popular. You wouldn't make enough in sales to pay the camera operators.
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Pretty sure Fox's contract is pretty much free reign on NHL stuff. It's why fox sports still publishes NHL highlights to its website. Plus as of a couple months ago when we had a highlight show NHL was the only one without any airing restrictions. We could do partials, in game updates, the whole thing. I agree with you completely given time restrictions and rights things if they're there. However I was under impression fox had pretty much all access.
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