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Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
Dang, that's a good idea.

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DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




Intoluene posted:

I'm Australia, they're repurposing payphones as WiFi hotspots. Only if you're with a certain ISP but still, neat idea to refresh something so obsolete.

In some parts of Scotland (and possibly the rest of the UK), some old phone booths are used to hold defibrillators. Handy to know that it's there, shielded from the elements but easy enough to get even if nobody local is about.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Dick Trauma posted:

Any technology with "-o-matic" in the name ought to be forced into obsolescence if it isn't already there.



Obviously, that poo poo wouldn't fly in Glorious HFCS-ica.

DocCynical
Jan 9, 2003

That is not possible just now

mobby_6kl posted:

poo poo, forgot CF cards were still a thing, it seemed everything short of top-tier SLRs moved to SD by now. You could definitely stick a CF card in there, or even a couple of them, actually. And yeah, it's just for sentimental value or making what you already have work.

SD cards are still slow as poo poo compared to CF and the new 1DX MK II uses CFast 2.0, which is basically a SATA drive in the Compact Flash form factor. When you in the high end, SD won't cut it at all.

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

jyrka posted:

Anywhere else had these cards for payphones in the 90s?



Phone cards are interesting because there was a huge collector's market for them which was decimated after phone cards went out of use. It's like everyone, including collectors, forgot they even existed. Rare cards went from hundreds of pounds to throwaway in just a few years. Here's a good site about it. Choice quotes:

quote:

Far more easier is the valuation of more common cards, where 90-95% off the value of the last published catalogue price list does seem to be consistently accurate.

..and regarding a particularly rare commemorative phone card:

quote:

In the current Phonecard catalogue the card has a list price of £450, and it was known that a number of these cards exchanged hands in the nineties for £650+. Today this card struggles to achieve a mere £30.
(there's one on eBay right now going unsold at £45).

Looks like Beanie Babies weren't the worst collectable investment you could have made in the 90s.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

flosofl posted:

Not for payphones, but pre-paid calling cards are still totally a thing. In the US, gas-stations and convenience stores will usually have a wall full of these things. They're mostly used by immigrants to call back to the Old Country. There are some that target special pricing on a per-minute basis to Africa, Central/South America, and Europe. Weirdly, I can't recall seeing any for Asia, but I'm sure they exist.

They definitely have ones for various areas of Asia. You see them more in places that have a high proportion of Asian immigrants, for obvious reasons.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Of course it's obvious, Asians typically move to areas that have a high concentration of Asia-specific phone cards and shops

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

flosofl posted:

Not for payphones, but pre-paid calling cards are still totally a thing. In the US, gas-stations and convenience stores will usually have a wall full of these things. They're mostly used by immigrants to call back to the Old Country. There are some that target special pricing on a per-minute basis to Africa, Central/South America, and Europe. Weirdly, I can't recall seeing any for Asia, but I'm sure they exist.

I have seen Asian cards, usually easy to discern by the cheesy "ching chong" typeface on the front. Never really closely looked at them to determine the rates, though.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Arsenic Lupin posted:

The TSA-approved locks for your luggage.

quote:

In a spectacular failure of a “back door” designed to give law enforcement exclusive access to private places, hackers have made the “master keys” for Transportation Security Administration-recognized luggage locks available to anyone with a 3D printer.

Obsolete technology: key blanks and a file.

The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS


Whatever happened to Picture in Picture? I just got a new TV for the first time in years and it is huge. I thought I could watch Netflix on it while playing games but nope. Now most TVs don't come with it I guess.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

DocCynical posted:

SD cards are still slow as poo poo compared to CF and the new 1DX MK II uses CFast 2.0, which is basically a SATA drive in the Compact Flash form factor. When you in the high end, SD won't cut it at all.

One thing that sucks about CF drives is how easy it is to ruin it by shoving a card in a little crooked or have a card with a plugged hole, and bend one of the pins. I assume most cameras now have the little trapdoor to stop you from sliding the card in crooked, but still, keep your cards clean and don't use cheap cards with shittily molded plastic :(

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


The Fuzzy Hulk posted:

Whatever happened to Picture in Picture? I just got a new TV for the first time in years and it is huge. I thought I could watch Netflix on it while playing games but nope. Now most TVs don't come with it I guess.

Which brand and model? Most major brands still had it that I know of up until last year when I got out of AV repairs and sales.

Let me know which one - I can probably help - even if it takes a test firmware I can get as a service agent.

davidspackage posted:

One thing that sucks about CF drives is how easy it is to ruin it by shoving a card in a little crooked or have a card with a plugged hole, and bend one of the pins. I assume most cameras now have the little trapdoor to stop you from sliding the card in crooked, but still, keep your cards clean and don't use cheap cards with shittily molded plastic :(

I have never had a problem with CF slots on camera, maybe their build tolerances were tighter. As for the dime a dozen card readers - holy gently caress they are terrible.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Dick Trauma posted:

Any technology with "-o-matic" in the name ought to be forced into obsolescence if it isn't already there.
I like the -o-matic suffix. Likewise with -tron.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


Nice! http://www.electrokinetica.org/d6/3/1.php explained to me why this is actually a sensible thing to do:

quote:

[The arrangement where you move heads around instead of flipping the tape] forces the designer into some compromises regarding head structure and prohibits the use of separate record and playback heads. Furthermore, the accuracy of head positioning (which is crucial for good performance) can be impaired by the flip-over mechanism, making this arrangement undesirable for high-end decks.

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Buttcoin purse posted:

Nice! http://www.electrokinetica.org/d6/3/1.php explained to me why this is actually a sensible thing to do:

The accuracy of head positioning is always crucial for good performance. :heysexy:

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

The Fuzzy Hulk posted:

Whatever happened to Picture in Picture? I just got a new TV for the first time in years and it is huge. I thought I could watch Netflix on it while playing games but nope. Now most TVs don't come with it I guess.

I asked a TV repair guy about that once. Ends up no one ever used it. I think some TV's have the capability, but it's no longer promoted.

Kind of like when I was a teenager and reading about this brand new technology called High Definition television. One of the perks was watching multiple shows at the same time, but in reality that isn't something anyone does.

Lincoln
May 12, 2007

Ladies.

Collateral Damage posted:

I like the -o-matic suffix. Likewise with -tron.

Tron-O-Matic

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Win95-o-matic.



Look at this guy, he's so happy to finally get his hands on two copies of Windows 95 :unsmith:

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Krispy Kareem posted:

I asked a TV repair guy about that once. Ends up no one ever used it. I think some TV's have the capability, but it's no longer promoted.

Kind of like when I was a teenager and reading about this brand new technology called High Definition television. One of the perks was watching multiple shows at the same time, but in reality that isn't something anyone does.

Lurking Haro has a new favorite as of 17:13 on Mar 15, 2016

jyrka
Jan 21, 2005


Potato Count: 2 small potatoes

KozmoNaut posted:

Win95-o-matic.



Look at this guy, he's so happy to finally get his hands on two copies of Windows 95 :unsmith:

Another bit of obsolete technology in that picture: the massive cardboard boxes games and software came in in the 90s.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

KozmoNaut posted:

Win95-o-matic.



Look at this guy, he's so happy to finally get his hands on two copies of Windows 95 :unsmith:

Look at the lady to the right. Look at those eyes, look at that knowing smile. She wishes one of those boxes were her's. And if she plays her cards right, it will be.

That poo poo cost $109 retail. In 1995 dollars.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

They were locks designed to be open without your key, they were obsolete and failed day one by design.

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Krispy Kareem posted:

I asked a TV repair guy about that once. Ends up no one ever used it. I think some TV's have the capability, but it's no longer promoted.

Kind of like when I was a teenager and reading about this brand new technology called High Definition television. One of the perks was watching multiple shows at the same time, but in reality that isn't something anyone does.

When I worked at a re-seller for televisions, back when LCD was a new thing, we had customers that were obsessed with PIP. It never worked right, and sound was a huge problem, and some sources wouldn't do PIP. No one ever used it, but customers insisted that it worked so they could play with it for 5 seconds and get bored.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

davidspackage posted:

One thing that sucks about CF drives is how easy it is to ruin it by shoving a card in a little crooked or have a card with a plugged hole, and bend one of the pins. I assume most cameras now have the little trapdoor to stop you from sliding the card in crooked, but still, keep your cards clean and don't use cheap cards with shittily molded plastic :(

I've never encountered this with the card itself but the pins on the reader can easily be destroyed. I used to work as a field tech for Fujifilm and idiot customers inserting cards into photo kiosk media readers sideways and smashing the pins was so common that they started supplying stores with removable secondary pin sets that prevented the permanent pins in the reader from being damaged.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

jyrka posted:

Another bit of obsolete technology in that picture: the massive cardboard boxes games and software came in in the 90s.

I picked up a USB copy of Windows 10 recently and the box is the dimensions of a CD case. I kind of miss big boxes.

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012
My brothers TV can PiP across inputs (dunno if that's a normal thing or not) so it's super useful when playing games that have a long-rear end load/install time.

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


Collateral Damage posted:

I like the -o-matic suffix. Likewise with -tron.

I'm particularly fond of -dyne.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Not - ola?

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry
All this talk about CF... you want to see a real obsolete format, look at Smart Media

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Lowen SoDium posted:

All this talk about CF... you want to see a real obsolete format, look at Smart Media



I was just about to bring up Smart Media cards--my first MP3 player had no internal memory at all, and instead you had to use those friggin' things. About as durable as a saltine. Line it up incorrectly when inserting it and you're rewarded with a lovely crunch.

The marketing materials for the MP3 player suggested swapping your music out on-the-go by changing cards, but the only way to do so without ruining it was in a clean room after a shot of liquor to steady your hands.

I think we should consider a class action suit--those cards weren't smart at all :smith:

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Lowen SoDium posted:

All this talk about CF... you want to see a real obsolete format, look at Smart Media



I had a Logitech webcam that doubled as a digital camera. It came with one of these, but 16MB. Thankfully it only took 0.3MP photos so I could fit in quite a few.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Smartmedia, you say? That can only mean one thing:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2002/03/08/hands-on-with-the-gp32



A portable emulator box back in the day when the non-SP/micro GBA was relevant? Yes, please!

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

pastor of muppets posted:

Notoriously low resolution, though :downsrim:

1x1 is enough

jyrka posted:

Anywhere else had these cards for payphones in the 90s?



I still have some Moomin ones. I hope I used up all the value. (They were good for parking as well.)

Lowen SoDium posted:

All this talk about CF... you want to see a real obsolete format, look at Smart Media



I've got an Olympus camera that uses a 128 megmabyte card like that and I took a photo of my balls and I haven't been able to delete it :(

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


Mad Hamish posted:

Not - ola?

-ola is also great.

The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS


Humphreys posted:

Which brand and model? Most major brands still had it that I know of up until last year when I got out of AV repairs and sales.

Let me know which one - I can probably help - even if it takes a test firmware I can get as a service agent.

It's a VIZIO E701i-A3 70", but I don't think I want to fiddle with the firmware or anything.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Dick Trauma posted:

Any technology with "-o-matic" in the name ought to be forced into obsolescence if it isn't already there.



They are far from going obsolete:

The Milk-O-Matic which sells fresh raw milk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7CVGn19q_I

The Meat-O-Matic which sells, yep, meat products:

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Sentient Data posted:

Smartmedia, you say? That can only mean one thing:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2002/03/08/hands-on-with-the-gp32



A portable emulator box back in the day when the non-SP/micro GBA was relevant? Yes, please!

I loved my GP32. It's in pretty rough shape today, but it got a lot of heavy use.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


The Fuzzy Hulk posted:

It's a VIZIO E701i-A3 70", but I don't think I want to fiddle with the firmware or anything.

To answer you question:

Buy this universal remote for $20:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-RMVZ320-7-Device-Universal-Emitters/dp/B00385XUFQ

And see how to use Picture in Picture and Picture by Picture here, including choosing inputs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGG5GZT7fLk


SwissCM posted:

I loved my GP32. It's in pretty rough shape today, but it got a lot of heavy use.

There were the best thing when they were first released. I lusted over them soo much. That and the Pandora - "I can have TWO SD cards in it?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3VIO4KUYWI

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

KozmoNaut posted:



Look at this guy, he's so happy to finally get his hands on two copies of Windows 95 :unsmith:

Don't knock it, this was an amazing upgrade from Windows 3.x. Not like now when you get a new version of Windows and it just makes everything worse. Am I just saying that because I'm the relic?


Picture-In-Picture is a secret hidden feature? Cool. I'll resist the temptation to actually see if my TV has it because I know I'll never use it anyway :v:

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Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(

Buttcoin purse posted:

Don't knock it, this was an amazing upgrade from Windows 3.x. Not like now when you get a new version of Windows and it just makes everything worse. Am I just saying that because I'm the relic?

Little of column A, little of column B, I think. Let's not let rose-tinted glasses get in the way of recognizing that most Windows OS rollouts were pretty garbage, and that a never-ending series of service package updates were what resulted in fairly robust, usable operating systems years down the line. Plus the dark era of the ME/NT split. Every version had SOMETHING to offer in upgrading, but it has almost always been couched in a bunch of extra problems to deal with. 95 was probably one of the biggest leaps, but if childhood memory(!) serves, even then you had tons of day 0 issues and a surprising number of compatibility problems.

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