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Stex T
Mar 7, 2005

Shut the fuck up and get out. Have fun being a slave of the rich and powerful.
OK, I don't really get all this economics stuff, but from what I can gather, bitcoin is like a pyramid scheme, but instead of selling vacuum cleaners it's gluing thousands of video cards together

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Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

cubicle gangster posted:

Why wouldn't Crowley just review the food and the woman who made the salad got a rating that way. That's how we do it now. It doesn't just work, it's the best way.
Why is there a forum filled with people doing something with bitcoin to guess how tasty something is based on a picture taken with a phone.

Well you see, the only people who'd be bothering to rate the tastiness of food pictures in exchange for penny shavings would be poor people... who probably couldn't afford the very food they're rating. This allows Crowley to feel superior to them, without ever needing to bother to even find out anything about them.

It's the same reason he doesn't just steal the autonomous intelligent lawnmowers, murder them, and sell them for parts. He'd rather have the feeling of having slaves working his land (mechanical slaves, yes, but still self-aware enough for his taste) than get the money for a used carburetor.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

cubicle gangster posted:

Why wouldn't Crowley just review the food and the woman who made the salad got a rating that way. That's how we do it now. It doesn't just work, it's the best way.
Why is there a forum filled with people doing something with bitcoin to guess how tasty something is based on a picture taken with a phone.

It's like Amazon's mechanical Turk, but decentralized and with a blockchain. If you know, what I mean. Do you know what I mean?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Stex T posted:

OK, I don't really get all this economics stuff, but from what I can gather, bitcoin is like a pyramid scheme, but instead of selling vacuum cleaners it's gluing thousands of video cards together

No, there is no giving money to anyone higher than you.
Think of it this way. All of Bitcoin is an arcade.
You walk in and all the machines are just change machines.
You also see a board of prizes to be won, mostly dreams and promises.
But they can only be bought with Arcade Tokens.
And you want all of the prizes.

There are others putting in dollars into the machines, and getting arcade coin tokens out.
And they do this all day, every day.
You walk upto one, and insert a dollar. But it takes a day for the money to come out, and at the end you get 75 cents worth of arcade tokens.
And you think this is brilliant.

Weclome to Bitcoin.

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Mar 17, 2016

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut

cubicle gangster posted:

Why is there a forum filled with people doing something with bitcoin to guess how tasty something is based on a picture taken with a phone.

bitcoiners are big on speculation in all its forms

Tipps
Apr 18, 2006


party in the front

business in the back

happyhippy posted:

No, there is no giving money to anyone higher than you.
Think of it this way. All of Bitcoin is an arcade.
You walk in and all the machines are just change machines.
You also see a board of prizes to be won, mostly dreams and promises.
But they can only be bought with Arcade Tokens.
And you want all of the prizes.

There are others putting in dollars into the machines, and getting arcade coin tokens out.
And they do this all day, every day.
You walk upto one, and insert a dollar. But it takes a day for the money to come out, and at the end you get 75 cents worth of arcade tokens.
And you think this is brilliant.

Weclome to Bitcoin.

You forgot the part where the all the prizes are drugs and child pornography.

And where the person who exchanges tokens for prizes will pocket your tokens and run away 99% of the time.

Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

cubicle gangster posted:

Why wouldn't Crowley just review the food and the woman who made the salad got a rating that way. That's how we do it now. It doesn't just work, it's the best way.
Why is there a forum filled with people doing something with bitcoin to guess how tasty something is based on a picture taken with a phone.

because decentralized

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry

quote:

The bitcoin blockchain manages around 200,000 bitcoin transactions a day

…and due to how retarded it is designed that's also known as peak bitcoin.

Even assuming you would want, well, any of this, which parts could not be done without butts? Somehow Uber manages to work without butts – some non-believers might even say they work because they don't use butts.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Are transactions still "stuck"?

a timid horse
Jan 13, 2012
This article has come in handy quite a few times lately. Where I work, we've been getting a lot of pressure lately to make sure everything we do is "blockchain compatible". Except nobody knows what that means, much less why you'd want it.

AbysmalPeptoBismol
Feb 5, 2016

Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea!

Quote from the A Typical Day in a Blockchain Enabled World:

"Certainly, it is far too early to estimate where and whether Satoshi Nakamoto’s Bitcoin whitepaper will appear in the annals of important scientific publications. But one fact is clear: In the same way that Newton had to first discover calculus to explain the motions of the stars, so Satoshi had to first discover the idea of a distributed anonymous ledger, the blockchain, to invent the idealistic notion of a fully distributed cryptocurrency."

This must be satire.

Must.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Did he discover calculus or did he create it?

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Ehh. That's kind of a philosophical debate, but most people would say he invented Calculus to allow mathematics to describe change, an aspect of the universe which everyone obviously knew about but nobody had really "discovered" mathematically.

Except maybe Leibniz was actually the guy who invented Calculus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz%E2%80%93Newton_calculus_controversy

And if two guys came up with it independently, it's harder to call it an "invention" - why would they both get the same thing? It's because mathematics is really just a way of annotating and modeling reality, and if they both understood reality correctly, they'd necessarily come up with the same model (if not identical choices for how to annotate it). So in that respect, Calculus isn't really in "invention."

But then again, sometimes the time is simply ripe for an invention, and multiple people come up with the same solution, and when that happens, how much credit should you really give to the inventor? Was the inventor some kind of genius, or were they "standing on the shoulders of giants"?

Satoshi didn't invent the blockchain and he didn't really invent cryptocurrency either. He simply assembled some pieces that were already there, in a way that probably someone else would have assembled them anyway, sooner or later.

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Mar 17, 2016

Toys For Ass Bum
Feb 1, 2015

wayne curr posted:

Holy poo poo what's going on in China? Why's there so many god drat Chinese buying up coins over the last few weeks?
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/





lol 97% of Bitcoin trading is now done on Chinese exchanges.

Novo
May 13, 2003

Stercorem pro cerebro habes
Soiled Meat
a friend and i used to run a hacked TFC server where we could cheat and gently caress with people, and as TFC became less popular (perhaps due to such activities) we rigged things so that it looked like people were playing on our server when in fact we were just luring cattle to slaughter

it appears bitcoin works much the same way

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

did anyone say shitcoin yet

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Hello. I've been following the other Bitcoin thread, but there was no news there for months.
So here's my question. Has anyone said buttcoin yet?

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


cubicle gangster posted:

Why wouldn't Crowley just review the food and the woman who made the salad got a rating that way. That's how we do it now. It doesn't just work, it's the best way.
Why is there a forum filled with people doing something with bitcoin to guess how tasty something is based on a picture taken with a phone.

A better question is "why the gently caress would you want to buy some stranger's leftovers"

Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

raditts posted:

A better question is "why the gently caress would you want to buy some stranger's leftovers"

All food, like all money, is fungible.

... 'fungible' does mean 'can go moldy', yes?

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Dabir posted:

did anyone say shitcoin yet

Haha omg

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

There is probably some strange overlap between people that thing IAP for games are the devil but want to use Bitcoin/digital currency to surround themselves with IAPs in real life.

Yermaw Zahoor
Feb 24, 2009
Same tired propaganda about bitcoins, but gently caress, watch the woman in the background at 1.12.

Coincidence, or does she know bullshit when she smells it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsfBHsqlZfY

akulanization
Dec 21, 2013

WhyteRyce posted:

There is probably some strange overlap between people that thing IAP for games are the devil but want to use Bitcoin/digital currency to surround themselves with IAPs in real life.

Well they base their identity around a consumer product, video games, so someone paying to get an advantage there is cheating; but since they suck at real life they'd be very happy to just mash yes on prompts to drain their wallets to make life easier.

jimmsta
Oct 24, 2004

Shedding bell-end tears in the pocket of her resistance.
Grimey Drawer
Bitcoin/Buttcoin is broken. period. I take back anything I may have said in the past. Every last bit. The amount of inside-fighting between developers alone spells the disaster that was spelled out earlier on. That and the amount of scamming going on. It literally became the best honeypot for scammers, and at this point has no turning back. The idea behind blockchain tech might revolutionize some banking practices, but the core 'product' is broken poo poo.

mcvey
Aug 31, 2006

go caps haha

*Washington Capitals #1 Fan On DeviantArt*

jimmsta posted:

Bitcoin/Buttcoin is broken. period. I take back anything I may have said in the past. Every last bit. The amount of inside-fighting between developers alone spells the disaster that was spelled out earlier on. That and the amount of scamming going on. It literally became the best honeypot for scammers, and at this point has no turning back. The idea behind blockchain tech might revolutionize some banking practices, but the core 'product' is broken poo poo.

Sad you're just realizing this now, but that's ok some people are just a little slow and we shouldnt shame them for it.

Lankiveil
Feb 23, 2001

Forums Minimalist

wayne curr posted:



lol 97% of Bitcoin trading is now done on Chinese exchanges.

Communists are simply better at defrauding neckbeards.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Lankiveil posted:

Communists are simply better at defrauding neckbeards.

We call it "Buttcoin with Chinese Characteristics."

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


https://twitter.com/Trumpchain


#MakeTheBlockchainGreatAgain

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Yermaw Zahoor posted:

Same tired propaganda about bitcoins, but gently caress, watch the woman in the background at 1.12.

Coincidence, or does she know bullshit when she smells it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsfBHsqlZfY

tokay, mate!

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

jimmsta posted:

Bitcoin/Buttcoin is broken. period. I take back anything I may have said in the past. Every last bit. The amount of inside-fighting between developers alone spells the disaster that was spelled out earlier on. That and the amount of scamming going on. It literally became the best honeypot for scammers, and at this point has no turning back. The idea behind blockchain tech might revolutionize some banking practices, but the core 'product' is broken poo poo.

That idea being Merkle trees

Tomato Burger
Jun 18, 2007
The secret is granola.

Tiberius Thyben posted:

We call it "Buttcoin with Chinese Characteristics."

Chinese activity from OKcoin and Huobi now makes up 99% of all Bitcoin trading volume.

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009

This is going to wreck poo poo hilariously when the Chinese government eventually pulls the plug on Bitcoin-related traffic over the great firewall.

carticket
Jun 28, 2005

white and gold.


Even over a 5 yr period, they still have 70% of the total volume.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.
So wait, is Bitcoin now a commodity with a financial backing based entirely on Chinese money laundering? How are the Bitcoin shills spinning this - "invest into our funny money now and help launder money for some rich Chinese people!"

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009

Hellsau posted:

So wait, is Bitcoin now a commodity with a financial backing based entirely on Chinese money laundering? How are the Bitcoin shills spinning this - "invest into our funny money now and help launder money for some rich Chinese people!"

They're sticking their heads in the sand over the overwhelming probability that the Chinese government is going to decapitate the entire Bitcoin market, it seems.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

TheQuietWilds posted:

They're sticking their heads in the sand over the overwhelming probability that the Chinese government is going to decapitate the entire Bitcoin market, it seems.

wait they recognize the fact that the entirety of bitcoin usage is by chinese criminals, and their response is to hope the chinese government isn't going to crack down on the criminal activity?

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Hellsau posted:

So wait, is Bitcoin now a commodity with a financial backing based entirely on Chinese money laundering? How are the Bitcoin shills spinning this - "invest into our funny money now and help launder money for some rich Chinese people!"

China is the largest economy in the world, so it's obviously good for bitcoin.

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry
Really, it just shows butts are gaining traction in a booming economy, which is good for the entire butt economy and demonstrates butts are better than fiat currencies.

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009

Hellsau posted:

wait they recognize the fact that the entirety of bitcoin usage is by chinese criminals, and their response is to hope the chinese government isn't going to crack down on the criminal activity?

As far as I can tell, yep. It's an extraordinarily bad bet. It's one thing to hope that the US government won't crack down on small-scale crypto-drug markets and child-porn rings, another thing to put your hopes and dreams on a large, incredibly technically literate totalitarian regime will ignore skirting of capital flight laws.

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