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Daztek posted:The Concept Sales Will Continue Until Funding Improves 
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Mar 19, 2016 03:38
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peter gabriel posted:Magical Parp Shower Parping Breeze.
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Mar 19, 2016 03:39
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ComfyPants posted:Parping Breeze. 
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Mar 19, 2016 03:40
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D_Smart posted:Called it. Moving along. Yes you did. I thought they were more devious than that. Classic case of "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity".
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Mar 19, 2016 03:42
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My predictions. -They will introduce the in game ship store which will also feature the component upgrade system. -Components will range from $5-$20 each with 5-8 different types (Engines, cooling, sensors, weapons etc.). Slight discount for a full set. -Components will be locked to the ship at purchase. -They will either let you pay in UEC (which you'll buy out of game for real $$$) or the game will just send you to a checkout page. -(They may introduce a way to very slowly earn UEC in game, like cents per hour equivalent. Just to try and deflect the obvious criticism). -They will start nerfing all stats on the base ships so that people must buy components to get the same performance they had before, they'll justify this by saying that it was always intended to be this way and the stats were previously inflated due to components not being available. -The component system will be broken (surprise!) meaning that ships don't get the correct stats or perform worse after 'upgrading'. At this point I think they realize that until they can hit a major milestone like introducing some new gameplay mechanics or persistence they are not going to be seeing huge amounts of funding anytime soon. The only thing they can do is try to get their daily income to balance with their overheads to stop from burning through cash reserves, milking the remaining shitizens for a few hundred bucks each over the coming months will keep the wolf from the door for a while.
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Mar 19, 2016 03:44
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My latest masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvWiVdNyJi4&feature=youtu.be e: this literally took me 10 times longer than I thought due to the client becoming unresponsive the majority of the time, freezing, crashing, getting stuck in various objects/architecture, etc. i cant believe anyone can play this and legit think this thing is going to be a game and its out this year. Goobs fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Mar 19, 2016 |
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Mar 19, 2016 03:51
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lazorexplosion posted:It's not an alpha. If it were an alpha you'd think basic tech like 'can support the desired number of people simultaneously' would be in place by now. By my reckoning it's probably a prototype of the local physics grid, and I'd guess the team that made it showed it to Chris and he's completely clueless about what a prototype is so he just gives the orders to go ahead and start dumping finished assets in it and release it as an alpha, and they couldn't or wouldn't convince him otherwise. On a prototype, you leave all kinds of poo poo unfinished and hacked-together because it's not part of the thing that you're prototyping and that's fine unless some idiot comes along and insists the prototype looks OK to them so it must be ready for alpha. And then you're doomed to have hacks upon hacks upon hacks and you can't fix the hacks later because it breaks the hacks on the hacks that aren't currently broken. That's the kind of thing that explains how you can have $100M, hire coders who must be mostly competent, and yet end up releasing broken dog poo poo. 100% on the money. Since all they had was experimental tech when they needed to start denying refunds, they just pushed what they had. Probably why they also don't have a patcher. And now that decision has locked them into a death spiral. The decision to release their experimental testbed as the PTU might go down in the post-mortem as the moment the game was officially doomed. The game was never destined to release as pitched, but with enough time something could have come out. But not with this code base.  at them disabling Arena Commander - "We really want to concentrate on Crusader". Yeah, that's why you're doing that. I'm sure AC was totally skewing all that valuable tester feedback. More likely they needed the extra hamsters. Divert all power to our embarrassing as gently caress PTU, CIG engineering team!
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Mar 19, 2016 03:55
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Wrecked Angle posted:My predictions. I think this is a good bet for what's motivating them to implement this. The only problem of course is that all these money-making schemes rely on persistence, which I guess the engine just will not tolerate?  surely if they could pull it off it would have started happening yesterday, considering all the money on the table.
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Mar 19, 2016 03:59
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Scruffpuff posted:
What kills me is the fact that they disable AC but leave in the AC patch notes, which won't be included when they turn it back on in a subsequent patch...
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Mar 19, 2016 04:00
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Scruffpuff posted:
Wait, what?
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Mar 19, 2016 04:01
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AP posted:http://imperialnews.network/2015/07/crusader-industries-genesis-starliner-concept-sale-analysis/ The sad thing is this: They've made over $1m selling a JPEG.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:04
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peter gabriel posted:Wait, what? From the patch notes: quote:Arena Commander will be disabled for this first testing phase, as we want very much to test Crusader performance. Then of course on the very next line: quote:PTU players in this initial test will have access to the Khartu-al in AC and Crusader, and the Starfarer (if you have the Revel & York hangar on your account). So it's disabled, but you'll have access to the Khartu-al in it. Makes as much sense as anything else they say.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:05
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FrankieGoes posted:Wow, the patch contained two guns and one ship? Amazing. At this rate they'll be done by 2070 at the latest. (2065 at the earliest) Remember that the ships you can buy only represent a small amount of the total ship variety that will be found in the finished game (lol)
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Mar 19, 2016 04:08
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D_Smart posted:The sad thing is this: They've made over $1m selling a JPEG. No, not yet. Nowhere near. In fact they haven't even quite broke $1 million so far in March. I think AP was suggesting that they might take a million over the full course of this sale. From the figures it looks like they've sold less than 500 of the new jpg so far, it may well be that backers are getting a little more cautious. Particularly with these 'everything is subject to change' concept sales.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:13
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The creation of the concept "hangar-ready" rather pisses me off. This is a rather elaborate scam, really - they know just how to gently caress with the cultist's heads. When the model reaches a certain point, they let you see it in a dedicated virtual space. This is equivalent to putting something in someone's hands in a retail environment (http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1889081,00.html), or car dealerships letting you test drive a car overnight (http://www.autotrader.com/car-shopping/buying-a-car-can-you-take-home-a-car-on-a-test-drive-230716). Except in CIG's case, they're using the peculiarities of virtual goods to sell lies. If the game was worth a poo poo, every finished ship would be on the PTU for everyone to try. That isn't going to happen, because they're breeding elitism and class warfare among their own backers, because nothing squeezes wallets from stupid people faster than convincing them that spending more makes them better than someone else, even in a test environment.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:15
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Wrecked Angle posted:No, not yet. Nowhere near. In fact they haven't even quite broke $1 million so far in March. I think AP was suggesting that they might take a million over the full course of this sale. Right. I misunderstood. Thanks for the clarity. But yikes; they've got to be panicking over there.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:20
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peter gabriel posted:I have got my fingers crossed that the big change in 2.3 is they have had a rethink and have made a racing sim based on Outrun Sega has nothing else going for them at the moment...
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Mar 19, 2016 04:20
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Tokamak posted:Sega has nothing else going for them at the moment... If they had any sense, they'd get Obsidian to make Alpha Protocol 2.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:22
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TTerrible posted:The fact that jst0rm is doing the sounds for Solar Plebian would cause Chris to have a Kylo Ren style flip out if he knew about it. It is beautiful in every way. Uh, yeah, it's pretty surreal 
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Mar 19, 2016 04:22
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D_Smart posted:Right. I misunderstood. Thanks for the clarity. But yikes; they've got to be panicking over there. That's still $150,000 from a concept jpeg. Don't you wish you could print that kind of money by putting a picture and some bullshit stats on your website? To be honest, aside from the fact Star Citizen is a scam and the game is never coming out etc. I can't see why anyone would buy that jpeg today. Are they that desperate to get that $300 out of their bank account? You can't fly it, you can't sit in it, you can't even look at it! It's not the best, it's not super cool must-have, it's not limited(is it?) and if you believe CIG, they don't need the money to create your game. I actually think it won't sell very well at all, the only people I can imagine being drawn to it are the uber-whales who have to buy everything available.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:31
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This needs to be preserved because this rules just for the final confirmation Ben is the "break emergency glass and blame" guy.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:34
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I like how an asteroid field is the best place to find a floating shotgun. And why cut off AC? A couple months ago they were begging people to play it because hardly anyone was in it. What a laugh riot.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:38
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C-Bangin' it 
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[quote="A Neurotic Jew" post="457603006"] this but all the silhouettes are turds
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Mar 19, 2016 04:38
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So, that's 2.3 huh. That's sure a lot of content for another revision number. Maybe 2.4 will finally have those cover mechanics eh? I wonder if they wait to see if a sale is doing poorly before throwing out another revision number to drive more revenue.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:39
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This took far too long for what it is https://youtu.be/F7M5QnyJHfA
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Mar 19, 2016 04:40
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I'm the 18 lines of patch notes explaining how looking to the right has been added.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:41
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Dunno if this was posted yet. https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/710974879617708033 https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/710982279695175680 
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Mar 19, 2016 04:43
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Ravane posted:Dunno if this was posted yet. I need to bleach my eyeballs.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:43
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Also there is a sound that plays everywhere we don't know how to fix. $110 million.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:45
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Chickenfrogman posted:This needs to be preserved because this rules just for the final confirmation Ben is the "break emergency glass and blame" guy. I love the bit right afterwards where they start talking about how broken the ships are... "well, we're aware they're broken but I wouldn't say the Glaive is the most broken ship out there, I mean there's the Cutlass..*everyone bursts with laughter*" Yes, that's right "developers" always laugh at the broken state of the poo poo they've sold to people for $100+. I really hope all these fuckers end up being held to account.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:48
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the concept sales are expanding to fit the needs of the expanding concept sales
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Mar 19, 2016 04:49
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Wrecked Angle posted:I love the bit right afterwards where they start talking about how broken the ships are...
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Mar 19, 2016 04:50
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Ravane posted:Dunno if this was posted yet.  
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Mar 19, 2016 04:50
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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/322821/my-brother-believes-sc-will-fail-help-me-counter-his-arguments
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Mar 19, 2016 04:52
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peter gabriel posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/322821/my-brother-believes-sc-will-fail-help-me-counter-his-arguments Clearly his brother is Derek Smart.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:54
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Breetai posted:
I only watched about 30 seconds but something seems very different. Is Sandi out of the state or something? These people sound like they have hope and spirit. This reminds me of the Escapist quote about 'being around a viper that could strike at any moment' to describe Sandi's presence.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:55
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The problem with this terrifying joke is that the ship skin is still 5$. No, no it is not worth 5$!
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Mar 19, 2016 04:55
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peter gabriel posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/322821/my-brother-believes-sc-will-fail-help-me-counter-his-arguments oh god i cant look
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Mar 19, 2016 04:55
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peter gabriel posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/322821/my-brother-believes-sc-will-fail-help-me-counter-his-arguments Please be someone in this thread  EDIT: loving  at "link him to this website" being an acceptable counter to those points.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:55
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D_Smart posted:The sad thing is this: They've made over $1m selling a JPEG. I would like to make $1 million for selling a JPEG to be honest. It'd make the whole "needing a job" thing a non-issue.
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Mar 19, 2016 04:56
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