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Green Wing posted:Lord Ashcroft on Twitter: ...so Counts rule?
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So what Victorian throwback illness has IDS contracted that has made him rethink his kill the Sick policy? Hopefully something degenerative that lingers and really gets its hooks into him.
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Mar 19, 2016 11:20
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He's just upset that he's spent 5 years trying to kill the homeless, only to have Osborne noscope them all in one night.
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Mar 19, 2016 11:23
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https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/711134424197419008 Crabb's currently the Welsh Secretary, so now there's a vacancy there to fill. Shouldn't be too much trouble - they've got a decent selection of Welsh MPs who could do the job. e: they've apparently gone with Alun Cairns for the Welsh Office. LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Mar 19, 2016 |
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Mar 19, 2016 11:24
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"In history we had empires so emperors ruled. Then we had kingdoms so kings ruled. Now we just buy Belize and run it by proxy."
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Mar 19, 2016 11:24
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I reckon IDS thinks he can get chancellor from Boris
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Mar 19, 2016 11:29
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I know it's an incredibly shallow thing but IDS literally looks like a failed attempt to genetically engineer a perfect Tory that, when going through the accelerated aging process, just made him an old baby.
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Mar 19, 2016 11:31
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Brigadier Sockface posted:...so Counts rule? Rothermere is a viscount no?
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Mar 19, 2016 11:38
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/711134424197419008 So how terrible is this guy likely to be?
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Mar 19, 2016 11:42
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jabby posted:So how terrible is this guy likely to be? LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Mar 19, 2016 |
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Mar 19, 2016 11:44
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Tories who grew up on council estates are often worse.
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Mar 19, 2016 11:46
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 I genuinely had to check I hadn't slept for two weeks when I woke up this morning and turned the news on. I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd ever wake up one day agreeing with something Iain Duncan Smith had done that didn't end in the words "before turning the gun on himself".
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Mar 19, 2016 11:50
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https://twitter.com/jamieszymko/status/711142184049840128 Well, his own constituents definitely aren't fans.
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Mar 19, 2016 11:59
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This all looks very promising. 
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Mar 19, 2016 12:15
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Be careful what you wish for I guess
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Mar 19, 2016 12:17
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quote:Almost always voted for fewer MPs in the House of Commons. Maybe he should take his own advice.
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Mar 19, 2016 12:23
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Interesting beard option.
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Mar 19, 2016 12:28
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Seaside Loafer posted:Interesting beard option. That's not a nice way to talk about his wife.
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Mar 19, 2016 12:36
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jabby posted:So how terrible is this guy likely to be? Less than IDS by definition, if only because he's not literally Satan. He does have a history as Welsh Secretary of actually seeming to give a poo poo about his job.
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Mar 19, 2016 12:58
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He was on question time a few back, gave off the impression of of being deep and thoughtful and caring convincingly while just saying the party line when it came down to the issues, a different approach from the blustering angry smug ids tactic. drat, people might buy it. check it out if you can find it, about a month ago i think.
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Mar 19, 2016 13:13
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Maybe, in the face of increasingly damning statistics, he'll have something more to say than "I don't believe that's true."
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Mar 19, 2016 13:15
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https://twitter.com/Fwestivus/status/711164940363685889 They just keep coming, Crabb looks to be a right piece of work.
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Mar 19, 2016 13:26
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Is this a sideways move for Crabb?
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Mar 19, 2016 13:42
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One could almost believe that you hoped for him to rip open his shirt and reveal a Corbyn or at least a Che Guevara t-shirt beneath it, while screaming "kill the rich", the next time he is in parliament.
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Mar 19, 2016 13:42
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Thinking of reasons IDS might have wanted to go now: my understanding of this is admittedly very hazy, but might not the imminent changes to tax credits for the self employed cause difficulties for the government? I help a self-employed gardener with his books and he's had a letter from HMRC saying that from April he needs to be able to prove that his business is consistently profitable (which apparently means, pays him at least the minimum wage all year round) to get tax credits. But gardening is seasonal and so he often makes less than the minimum wage, which is exactly why he needs tax credits. That and the insistence on good record-keeping with invoices etc is likely to make it impossible for my gardener friend to get tax credits, and force him back onto the dole. Obviously then he will be liable to sanctions, workfare etc, which is presumably the goal. I don't know how common this is, but if there are lots of people who set up as self-employed to escape from DWP harassment but are now going to be forced back, the rise in unemployment statistics might be embarrassing.
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Mar 19, 2016 13:44
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:
Hey, at least we're reaching the point where Tories feel they have to hide their homophobia like a dirty little secret. Baby steps, but still nice to see evidence of how unacceptable this sort of thing's becoming.
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Mar 19, 2016 13:45
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GaussianCopula posted:One could almost believe that you hoped for him to rip open his shirt and reveal a Corbyn or at least a Che Guevara t-shirt beneath it, while screaming "kill the rich", the next time he is in parliament. Follow your leader, nazi.
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Mar 19, 2016 13:46
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a glitch posted:Problem: Nothing IDS does could be called 'honourable' How about seppuku Pissflaps posted:Is this a sideways move for Crabb? Noice.
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Mar 19, 2016 13:49
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Will Crabb be a hard shell for Euro sceptics ?
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Mar 19, 2016 13:50
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Pissflaps posted:Will Crabb be a hard shell for Euro sceptics ? Poor. Very poor. You got carried away.
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Mar 19, 2016 13:56
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Obviously they thought he'd do in a pinch.
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Mar 19, 2016 13:56
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Oh dear me posted:Thinking of reasons IDS might have wanted to go now: my understanding of this is admittedly very hazy, but might not the imminent changes to tax credits for the self employed cause difficulties for the government? I help a self-employed gardener with his books and he's had a letter from HMRC saying that from April he needs to be able to prove that his business is consistently profitable (which apparently means, pays him at least the minimum wage all year round) to get tax credits. But gardening is seasonal and so he often makes less than the minimum wage, which is exactly why he needs tax credits. That and the insistence on good record-keeping with invoices etc is likely to make it impossible for my gardener friend to get tax credits, and force him back onto the dole. Obviously then he will be liable to sanctions, workfare etc, which is presumably the goal. It's certainly going to affect a lot of people I know. The plans basically take no account of the reality of self-employment when you have no wealth to fall back on. It completely flies in the face of all this government's rhetoric because you could very well work your bollocks off but if a client is late with a payment or you have a quiet month or two, then the Job Centre can decide that you are not gainfully employed and it'll be a life of learning to write CVs and work experience placements in charity shops for you.
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Mar 19, 2016 13:58
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I was an ASBO youth once and I even continued to be ASBO for a few years after I reached old age of 25+ Though I do think CCTV provokes situations like you're experiencing all the more so may well be rather counter productive. Then of course any ASBO aggro magnet even slightly clued up will cover up by wearing something like a Thor Steinar hoodie with built in face mask to counteract this. I'm not going to pretend I've been my neighbourhood's bastion of upstanding behaviour all my life because I haven't and my other half's daughter really was wild. She came close to gaol on a number of occasions in her teens but literally turned a new leaf as 20 appraoched. What I'm saying is it all goes toward no groups of youth ever targetting us but even if they did I'd not go the CCTV route. It destroyed atmospheres in football stadia across our country from three decades ago onwards and is even used to prosecute parents dropping kids off outside their schools' gates nowdays.....I'd tear every last camera down if I had my way but alas it is what it is in the modern day.
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Mar 19, 2016 14:10
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The hell is that?
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Mar 19, 2016 14:14
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A poo poo poster you should pretend doesn't exist.
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Mar 19, 2016 14:22
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The hell is what? I can't see anything. (I cannot recommend Awful App's hellban feature strongly enough)
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Mar 19, 2016 14:26
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Oberleutnant posted:Poor. Very poor. You got carried away. Aye, he should have scuttled that one.
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Mar 19, 2016 14:28
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Renaissance Robot posted:The hell is what? I can't see anything. (I cannot recommend Awful App's hellban feature strongly enough)
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Mar 19, 2016 14:31
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https://twitter.com/RobBurl/status/711171135677792256 IDS is going on the Marr show tomorrow, presumably to rip into Cameron and Osbourne. It's like a dream.
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Mar 19, 2016 14:31
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CCTV is pretty bad but putting it on housing estates has reduced the number of coppers beating up kids in public with impunity, so that's good. They do it in private now.
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