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scientists and math doers are retarded idiots who like poo poo programming languages le shock
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a cool and new-ish model came along and it's being used for all kinds of stuff an acceptable new implementation of an existing model came along and it's open source so it's being used for all kinds of stuff
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# ? Mar 19, 2016 01:33 |
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eschaton posted:an acceptable new implementation of an existing model came along and it's open source so it's being used for all kinds of stuff i'm ok with this summary, too lesson learned: nothing you do will change the industry unless it's open source
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# ? Mar 19, 2016 03:12 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i'm ok with this summary, too this is now weird but true and it's the only good part of our techno dystopia
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# ? Mar 19, 2016 14:18 |
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i have a Stupid Linux Question i was wondering if yall might be able to answer I want to do two things: 1. keep using windows on my desktop, allowing for playing video james and poo poo but: 2. also run linux on it, so I can do GPGPU poo poo simultaneously/when I'm not playing video games is there any way to do a passthrough thing with windows that I can turn off, or switch windows to intel graphics when I need the GPU for linux basically just swap the graphics card between two running (or temporarily suspended) VMs thank
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 18:38 |
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atomicthumbs posted:i have a Stupid Linux Question i was wondering if yall might be able to answer With two GPU's it's possible to do this the other way around: https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough Linux as the main, windows as the VM.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:07 |
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ratbert90 posted:With two GPU's it's possible to do this the other way around: https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough from what i read it's definitely possible to run linux on the intel as the main, with windows getting pci passthrough to the gpu but i need to be able to switch 'em alternate option: low-endish nvidia card for linux so I can run CUDA too
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:09 |
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atomicthumbs posted:from what i read it's definitely possible to run linux on the intel as the main, with windows getting pci passthrough to the gpu This is true, I guess I forget that most new intel motherboards have built in video these days.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:15 |
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atomicthumbs posted:i have a Stupid Linux Question i was wondering if yall might be able to answer run your videogames on linux.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:16 |
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atomicthumbs posted:i have a Stupid Linux Question i was wondering if yall might be able to answer do the gpgpu poo poo on windows
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:17 |
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atomicthumbs posted:but i need to be able to switch 'em Not going to happen, GPUs are really stateful. It's possible in principle if both OSes and the hypervisor supported GPU hotplugging but yeah not going to happen in practice.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:28 |
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well, windows has the whole "stateful" thing solved what with the driver upgrades without rebooting and the recovering from GPU crashes and so on
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:31 |
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atomicthumbs posted:i have a Stupid Linux Question i was wondering if yall might be able to answer quit playing video games so you don't have to run windows
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:35 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:run your videogames on linux. No Shaggar posted:do the gpgpu poo poo on windows No Mr Dog posted:Not going to happen, GPUs are really stateful. I'm okay with shutting down whatever to switch/reinitialize gpu but it's looking like a secondary gpu will be the easiest way
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:38 |
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I run Windows not just for the video games, but because it's the industry standard operating system. Also I need to use Adobe products.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:39 |
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get a solaris/sparc workstation for the adobe products then (photoshop 4 and framemaker should be good enough right?)
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:40 |
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atomicthumbs posted:I run Windows not just for the video games, but because it's the industry standard operating system. Also I need to use Adobe products. have you tried the world's most advanced operating system, mac os x? you can get the entire adobe creative suite there, and it doesn't come with ads for candy crunch or a defective full-screen calculator app either
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 19:41 |
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atomicthumbs posted:I run Windows not just for the video games, but because it's the industry standard operating system. For people who don't want to run servers or make embedded products that doesn't run off of a lovely RTOS.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 20:07 |
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sorry, industry standard for usersCocoa Crispies posted:have you tried the world's most advanced operating system, mac os x? you can get the entire adobe creative suite there, and it doesn't come with ads for candy crunch or a defective full-screen calculator app either I've considered it, but apparently the sound won't work on my computer.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 20:44 |
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atomicthumbs posted:sorry, industry standard for users take it back to the apple store and they should replace or fix it
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 20:52 |
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it was mentioned upthread a while ago, but if you want to run Windows games on linux, provided they're on Steam you can stream them from a windows machine to the linux client. it works quite well.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 20:56 |
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pseudorandom name posted:well, windows has the whole "stateful" thing solved what with the driver upgrades without rebooting and the recovering from GPU crashes and so on nah it just resets all the state so you see horrible modesets for a bit
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 21:04 |
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There's a D3D error code that means "you lost the GPU, reinitialize literally everything, from the beginning" and almost any D3D function can return it OpenGL doesn't have that error code, but Vulkan does. seems like kind of a pain in the rear end imo, I thought that got done away with when GPUs gained virtual memory back in like, the Vista days
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 21:18 |
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except nobody handles that correctly, they just crash. even dwm.exe doesn't handle that.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 22:34 |
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It happens when you ALT-TAB out of a fullscreen D3D9 app under XP, although there's some note in the API docs about how if you initialize D3D9 in D3D9Ex mode (which is only available in Vista+) then it's guaranteed to never happen But I'm pretty sure I've ALT-TABbed out of full screen games in the WinXP days and they didn't crash so More to the point I've hosed around with some arcade games written to run on WinXP and those absolutely do crash if you ALT-TAB out of them, although admittedly this D3D9 issue is not necessarily the reason why that happens. I was just surprised that it's part of the Vulkan spec, because I thought that particular thing was ancient history.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 22:44 |
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everybug old is new again
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 00:17 |
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i think theres maybe something about this in the mythical man month???
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 01:18 |
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atomicthumbs posted:I've considered it, but apparently the sound won't work on my computer. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002R33VWW problem solved
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 01:25 |
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Mr Dog posted:I was just surprised that it's part of the Vulkan spec, because I thought that particular thing was ancient history. what are functions supposed to return if some bozo uninstalls the drivers or yanks the card out while things are running? the language in the spec makes it sound like it's just for serious hardware malfunctions and not old-style d3d alt-tab bullshit.
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 01:40 |
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we have legit use cases these days for losing context though like dual gpu systems and lovely keyboard docks with video cards in them idk what opengl does in that context though
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 02:29 |
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The_Franz posted:what are functions supposed to return if some bozo uninstalls the drivers or yanks the card out while things are running? the language in the spec makes it sound like it's just for serious hardware malfunctions and not old-style d3d alt-tab bullshit. or the much simpler case of "what happens if the GPU crashes?" which is theoretically hidden from you now in Direct3D or OpenGL, but Vulkan is all about hiding absolutely nothing from the application
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 02:54 |
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glad i don't do gpu stuff. sounds like a pain.
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 04:17 |
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959.shtml ubuntu... bsd???
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 04:33 |
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deep impact on vhs posted:http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959.shtml like all up and coming open source projects this one is hosted on sourceforge
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 05:05 |
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and has a name dissing systemd though at least FreeBSD has a claim to eventually having something better, since they'll eventually have launchd
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 07:38 |
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akadajet posted:glad i don't do gpu stuff. sounds like a pain. I am a PhD student, and my research involves a compiler for a functional language that generates high-performance GPU code. Many times have I regretted selecting a research field dependent on functioning GPU drivers on Linux. Although modern Intel GPUs are pretty nice, seem to have even more horsepower than their attached CPUs, and the drivers tend to work well.
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 16:00 |
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apparently the HD Graphics 4600 thing attached to my 4790k does 60% as well as a Titan in certain OpenCL things. too bad 3/4ths of the useful poo poo seems to be CUDA
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 20:34 |
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gonna try the latest nvidia beta, it's supposed to have kms and poo poo wish me luck!
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 22:12 |
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good luck! also don't forget to pass that module parameter to nvidia-kms.ko or whatever it's called because it's not enabled by default rn i wonder how they integrated with libdrm and gbm in the end because that was always the main sticking point. well, libdrm is just a bunch of wafer thin size-and-malloc wrappers around the base drm ioctls, but gbm is fairly tightly integrated into the whole dri plugin system iirc Sapozhnik fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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thanks! yeah, it's disabled by default, but the pkgbuild i used seem to include it. the docs mentioned it being experimental and i think without support for gbm right now i've yet to try it, waiting for a youtube clip to finish
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