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are you trying to get fresh me with some tepid linux burns, here? ratbert?
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linux games only work with nvidia drivers
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Mar 25, 2016 00:12
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Smythe posted:are you trying to get fresh me with some tepid linux burns, here? ratbert? Maybe 
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Mar 25, 2016 00:17
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:linux games only work with nvidia drivers talos principal works well with amd's beta vulkan drivers and amd's cards easily keep up with nvidia when their garbage opengl stack isn't in the way
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Mar 25, 2016 01:17
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The_Franz posted:talos principal works well with amd's beta vulkan drivers and amd's cards easily keep up with nvidia when their garbage opengl stack isn't in the way ok so one title works on linux without nvidia, good to know
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Mar 25, 2016 01:45
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i am excited about vulkan, too, but for the forseeable future, nvidia + opengl will remain rly important to a reasonable linux desktop experience i am hoping here in 2-4 years amd will be a competitor
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Mar 25, 2016 01:48
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talos principle also happens to be the best game
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Mar 25, 2016 07:05
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Smythe posted:no dude it was ubuntu gnome with the right drivers. the ones gaben told me to install. ubuntu anything is not the right thing for anything pls install fedora
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Mar 25, 2016 23:03
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Celexi posted:ubuntu anything is not the right thing for anything pls install fedora its the gaben approved one for steam i thot
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Mar 25, 2016 23:18
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Smythe posted:its the gaben approved one for steam i thot You can use even an utterly poo poo distro for that, like Arch. Just install Fedora or your distro of choice that is not Debian or Ubuntu.
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Mar 26, 2016 00:09
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i am excited about vulkan, too, but for the forseeable future, nvidia + opengl will remain rly important to a reasonable linux desktop experience in 2-4 years amd will be a division of intel or get bought by an arbitrary large tech company that suddenly needs to sell a tangible product
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Mar 26, 2016 00:18
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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ratbert90 posted:weren't you the guy who literally couldn't install the nvidia drivers on Fedora, which is like 2 lines of console commands to do? that was me. and it's hard to do when the os is just broken poo poo with the included drivers.
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Mar 26, 2016 00:38
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akadajet posted:that was me. and it's hard to do when the os is just broken poo poo with the included drivers. Lol you literally have to smash ctrl alt f2 and type two lines and reboot.
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Mar 26, 2016 00:41
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what wrong with debain? why fedora good
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Mar 26, 2016 00:42
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atomicthumbs posted:what wrong with debain? why fedora good Debian maintainers are often times idiots and mess with packages in odd or bad ways. Fedora is good because its backed by Red Hat, focuses on security and is stock as far as I can tell. Also SELinux and firewalld are enabled by default which is cool and good.
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Mar 26, 2016 00:51
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ratbert90 posted:Lol you literally have to smash ctrl alt f2 and type two lines and reboot. maybe u should write a guide on it then http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2015/fedora-nvidia-guide/
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Mar 26, 2016 00:55
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this thread's recommendation is why I picked CentOS for a Linux VPS I was spinning up (after some cursory investigation into whether I could just use Solaris 11.3…)
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Mar 26, 2016 00:56
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akadajet posted:maybe u should write a guide on it then Somebody did for me. http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia
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bug report: selecting the fedora server minimum install, and instructing it to install "text-based web browsers", "editors", and other add-on packages, does not install any web browsers, editors, or add-on packages, leaving it useless when you have to have a web browser to auth the wifi you're using
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OK no matter what media I try and how I tell it to install, fedora ends up installing a broken, less-than-minimal system with no network connectivity whatsoever and no apparent ability to get any. there's no loving tracert, let alone any web browsers or anything approximating anything useful. and I can't get it to install any of the packages it should've from the install media, because it can't synchronize the cache for the Fedora repo it can't reach because it won't let me install the packages I need to let it reach that repo who the gently caress told me to use fedora edit: I think maybe the problem is that dnf won't work at all if it can't connect to the repo, even if the packages are stored locally? so it just gives up and leaves a system without any packages?
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Mar 26, 2016 08:15
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I fixed it by authing my phone on the WiFi and turning on USB tethering for the computer so that the local installer could figure out that the concept of packages exists 2016 is the year of Linux on the desktop.
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Mar 26, 2016 09:47
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atomicthumbs posted:OK no matter what media I try and how I tell it to install, fedora ends up installing a broken, less-than-minimal system with no network connectivity whatsoever and no apparent ability to get any. tracert is windows, traceroute is linux
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Mar 26, 2016 10:45
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Apocadall posted:tracert is windows, traceroute is linux the best is mtr
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Mar 26, 2016 10:51
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Guys guys guys. This incredibly niche thing I am doing where I have no GUI at all on my Desktop isn't working well. Clearly all of Linux on the Desktop is broken. Why the gently caress are you trying to use Fedora as a server and not CentOS? FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Mar 26, 2016 |
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Mar 26, 2016 14:51
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atomicthumbs posted:I fixed it by authing my phone on the WiFi and turning on USB tethering for the computer so that the local installer could figure out that the concept of packages exists the desktop images install just fine without a net connection maybe don't download the minimal network install image when you need to jump through hoops to connect to the network?
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Mar 26, 2016 14:53
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The_Franz posted:the desktop images install just fine without a net connection I downloaded the 2gb "fedora server" image, not the net install image. I did this because all I needed was a text mode thing.
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Mar 26, 2016 15:15
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and yeah the desktop image installs great if you love KDE or whatever
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Mar 26, 2016 15:16
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What the gently caress? Stock Fedora is gnome. You have no idea what you are doing.
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Mar 26, 2016 15:22
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i'm the wifi connection on a server
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Mar 26, 2016 15:43
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I'm not running a dang server, and yeah I don't know what DE it uses because I stopped installing it when I saw it wouldn't let me do it without one. I'm installing Linux for the sole reason of running some poo poo that needs Torch, and the fact that the package management system just completely shits the bed if it can't sync to a repo is hilarious.
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Mar 26, 2016 15:56
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well I've had no problems using it on computers with no internet connection so idk what you're doing wrong but I don't think it's linux's fault
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oh wait no I was using centos, because I didn't expect the bleeding edge desktop distro for desktop users on the desktop to be a suitable choice for a non-desktop use case
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eschaton posted:this thread's recommendation is why I picked CentOS for a Linux VPS I was spinning up i can't recommend solaris for any purpose solaris 11 in particular is a hot mess. it's the remnants of opensolaris hastily bolted together by people who had one foot out the door.
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atomicthumbs posted:and yeah the desktop image installs great if you love KDE or whatever yeah i think fedora should switch to gnome default!!
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ok i can see That Thing is happening where a linux user, angry because linux isn't working correctly, inspires anger in a linux defender, angry because the user must be doing something wrong. I decided to shrink my Windows partition on my desktop computer by 15gb and install Linux. I need the Linux to do two things:
I use reverse SSH, in this case, because I live in a dorm and use the dorm wifi. I have no wired network option (and believe me I'd loving like one). I've used Debian and various derivatives since the mid-2000s, but I've read about people using Fedora lately (especially in this thread). I asked what I should use and people said Fedora. I downloaded the Fedora Workstation image and booted it. It worked well, but offered no ability to select how I wanted to install it, and I'm not a big fan of GNOME (and didn't recognize it as such; I haven't used a desktop computer with linux since Kubuntu with KDE3, which worked great when I had a Pentium 3 laptop with 64mb of ram) and didn't really need a desktop environment anyway, so I downloaded the Fedora Server image. The dorm wifi needs a username and password put in to authorize its users, because it's stupid. It redirects the first web page loaded so the only way to get internet access is to use a web browser. "Hmm, that'll be fine, I'm installing from local media anyway," I thought. Except no matter how I instructed the installer to install it (I tried with various permutations of "minimal install" and "Fedora Server"), I ended up with a system with no packages installed, and DNF spat out an error whenever I tried to use it about not being able to synchronize the package cache with the Fedora repo. The packages were there on the drive, but DNF refused to install them from the files, too, because it didn't have internet access to synchronize with the repo. Eventually I managed to get it working by connecting to the wifi through my phone. I realized that it would be a bit of a pain in the rear end to try to cope with this poo poo without a desktop environment, so I used the newly expanded and internet-connected list to install it with LXQt. It worked fine until I tried to install the Linux drivers for my video card from AMD's website, following their instructions, and after a reboot it no longer boots in normal or recovery mode, so the point is moot. i'm thinking of installing debian
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atomicthumbs posted:ok i can see That Thing is happening where a linux user, angry because linux isn't working correctly, inspires anger in a linux defender, angry because the user must be doing something wrong. did you try double clicking the rpm files or running the rpm command instead of dnf m8
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atomicthumbs posted:I need the Linux to do two things: this isn't going to pan out for you. you started with the wrong hardware. amd/ati has never worked well under linux. probably never will. buy an nvidia card, or a xeon phi.
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Mar 26, 2016 17:10
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youre goign to have a lot of trouble with getting wifi running without a gui
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Mar 26, 2016 17:10
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Maximum Leader posted:youre goign to have a lot of trouble with getting wifi running without a gui believe me I tried Arch for a little while once on a testing laptop for interfacing with old computer poo poo and I loving know (that's the main reason I installed LXQt)
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Hey guys I didn't do any research and tried to use a desktop OS as a server and the package manager got upset because it was set to find packages on the internet and it couldn't find packages without the internet. Now that I am angry, I will go back to my full GUI experience on Windows and bitch about how a desktop OS built for the desktop is bad without the desktop.
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