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BMB5150 posted:Kimi Raikkonen has been linked to go to NASCAR with SHR next year Wait, WHAT?! 
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Mar 25, 2016 03:05
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why would harvick leave SHR
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Mar 25, 2016 03:34
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Alain Post posted:why would harvick leave SHR Allegedly because he's a big loving idiot who's tribal about manufacturers and doesn't want to run a Ford. A Brand-Slut as they're known.
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Mar 25, 2016 03:37
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i really hope he's not that stupid, the guy is one of the best drivers in the world rn
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Mar 25, 2016 03:49
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this would be the dumbest NASCAR moment since DW left Junior because he suddenly decided that beer sponsorship was devil worshiping or some poo poo
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Mar 25, 2016 03:51
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^^^^ You guys are being a little short sighted I think. 1) You're acting like he'd be crazy to leave SHR, when you know that he's going to get a ride with Hendrick. That's not exactly a step down. 2) Yea, he may be a brand-slut, but he is a brand in and of himself. The Harvick brand is pretty closely tied to Chevy, and he could be thinking that his brand/appeal will take a hit if he changes manufacturers. How can he possibly sell Fords convincingly when he's made an entire career selling Chevys? True, lots of drivers change manufacturers, but few are tied directly into the blood of the manufacturer. Can you imagine either of the Earnhardts suddenly trying to sell you Ford Quality? Or Jack Roush running Chevys? I think Harvick views himself, and his career, as tied very directly to the Chevy brand. An interesting comparison here is Stewart. In his last year at JGR he was running a Toyota, and that marriage (besides the fact that he was moving over to SHR) was clearly awkward. Stewart wasn't a Toyota guy, no one believed him when he was shilling about the quality ride of a Camry. I remember thinking that he clearly happy to be going back to a Chevy product. The point is that these are still car guys, and car guys can be crazy brand loyal and it's genuine. 3) Speaking of manufacturers, we all seem to be just assuming that going to Ford is a good move for SHR. I have nothing against Ford, and my next personal car will likely be a Ford (if my wife let's me, I'm still dreaming of a 5.0 Mustang), but their recent on track history has been almost all negative. Yes, this year they have shown improvement, but between the three manufacturers they are definitely still a distant 3rd. BMB5150 posted:He had one good year his first year but time is ticking and also doesn't help rumors of Harvick coming in and taking his ride. Doesn't help today Kimi Raikkonen has been linked to go to NASCAR with SHR next year which gets more pressure on Kahne who is starting off the season pretty terribly. I agree. Kahne was the next big thing for about ten minutes, and then proceeded to fall flat on his face. I mean this in all seriousness, he may be the unluckiest driver in the garage. How many times have we seen him having a good/solid day, running some place between 5th and 15th, only to have it all go away late in the race? It's happened enough that I know that we comment on it as "typical Kahne luck" in the race day chats. I agree that we all hope that he'll see a career 2nd act like Jr, but unfortunately I think he's an even longer shot than Jr was. At this point, Kahne's stock is so low, and he brings so little to the table, and his resume so thin, that it is a hard sell to sponsors that he is worth the investment. Kahne is probably the latest, greatest, example of what Jr was always too keenly aware of during the dark seasons, that he was given extra chances because of who he was. At similar points in their careers, Kahne is on the verge of being fired while Jr was having the war chest thrown at him to find the combination that worked. Every day that Harvick doesn't re-sign the pressure will build on Kahne to preform. In fact, even if Kahne gets hot and makes the Chase, if Harvick is free I think Hendrick will make the change regardless. SpitztheGreat fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Mar 25, 2016 |
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Mar 25, 2016 04:10
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I don't think Harvick would leave SHR because he's probably not the stupidest person in the world.
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Mar 25, 2016 04:11
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Harvick is not leaving while he can run top 3 every race. No driver has done that in decades You stay in a winning car
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Mar 25, 2016 04:13
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i suppose there is some logic in leaving for hendrick, if possible
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Mar 25, 2016 04:14
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be nice wicka posted:i suppose there is some logic in leaving for hendrick, if possible You'd think making your own chassis might take a hit on being Hendrick quality and I can see Harvick wants to stay in a proven good ride by going to Hendrick. And whoever went what!? to the Raikkonen rumor, some guy in autoweek is reporting this.
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Mar 25, 2016 05:08
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HMS: Harvick, Elliott (I had to stop and think about who was in the 24), Jimmiebot, Junyer SHR: Larson/Kahne/Raikkonen, Patrick, Bowyer, Kurt Busch SHR needs Harvick more than Harvick needs SHR. Without him, you have (probably) Kyle Larson (loads of potential but nothing to show for it yet), Clint Bowyer (irrelevant in the last few years except for an itchy arm), Kurt Busch (probably the best driver on the team), and Danica Goddamn Patrick. I'd figure Kimi winds up in NXS or CWTS to start. Am I saying Harvick should leave? No. Is there a chance he's going to? He's already in "I'm committed to this amazing race team and my great sponsors" mode. Wouldn't surprise me. Alain Post posted:this would be the dumbest NASCAR moment since DW left Junior because he suddenly decided that beer sponsorship was devil worshiping or some poo poo Or when DW left Hendrick because he wanted to do it all himself, including engines. SpitztheGreat posted:An interesting comparison here is Stewart. In his last year at JGR he was running a Toyota, and that marriage (besides the fact that he was moving over to SHR) was clearly awkward. Stewart wasn't a Toyota guy, no one believed him when he was shilling about the quality ride of a Camry. I remember thinking that he clearly happy to be going back to a Chevy product. What's interesting is that this is happening because SHR is leaving Chevy.
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Mar 25, 2016 05:29
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My dad used to work with a big NASCAR fan that knew somebody in the biz (we think he drove a hauler but can't remember). We ended up with a used tire at one point which twelve-year-old me remembers fondly. Anyway, Dad was going through random crap today and found these decals in an envelope from the Bobby Dotter Fan Club. Also in there was a Jasper #77 Bobby Hillin Jr license plate.
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Mar 26, 2016 01:17
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Quantrill posted:My dad used to work with a big NASCAR fan that knew somebody in the biz (we think he drove a hauler but can't remember). We ended up with a used tire at one point which twelve-year-old me remembers fondly. Anyway, Dad was going through random crap today and found these decals in an envelope from the Bobby Dotter Fan Club. Also in there was a Jasper #77 Bobby Hillin Jr license plate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dK-g8cv9oM
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Mar 26, 2016 02:41
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https://youtu.be/ipbGsHL1oZw?t=24
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Mar 26, 2016 03:24
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K&N East isn't broadcast live anywhere is it? I wanna see Bowman Gray
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Mar 26, 2016 03:39
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Dippel gonna win it anyway
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Mar 26, 2016 03:46
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"...I'm gonna try to refuckulate it and land on Juniper." Always funny.
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Mar 26, 2016 04:19
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LordPants posted:K&N East isn't broadcast live anywhere is it? I wanna see Bowman Gray Last year it was tape delayed on NBC sports. LP put up the Bowman Gray race on his youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT4V8Ua7gTA
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Mar 26, 2016 04:43
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BMB5150 posted:Doesn't help today Kimi Raikkonen has been linked to go to NASCAR with SHR next year I don't know. If I were Kimi's shoes...the better move would be to swipe Juan's seat at Penske (who is likely driving for Porsche in WEC) run IndyCar for 2-3 seasons, and then give Cup a go. I don't mean that as a slam towards going to Cup or anything. But I think it's better if he uses it as an eventual steppingstone towards running stock cars. He also has a few more good years in him, and I think he'd be a serious threat to win Indianapolis. He could very easily cross that off his check list and then run Cup/Rally, etc for lulz. Not to mention? Dude could easily be a Road Course ringer for Roger during those seasons. He could run the glen, sears point, mid ohio, road america, etc. Giving him more seat time to prepare to be actually competitive in Cup versus being mediocre to bad in it. I'm not saying this as a "DURR INDYCAR" fan. I'm saying this as a Kimi fan. Much rather see him get a few Indy wins before devoting himself to Cup full time. Think that'd be awesome to see.
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Mar 27, 2016 02:00
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is JPM really expected to leave penske?
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Mar 27, 2016 02:08
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be nice wicka posted:is JPM really expected to leave penske? I'm just guessing. I think he wants to run the 100th and then pursue other things. I imagine his Indy career was very much based on wanting to feel satisfied about no longer being the "JET DRYER" guy in Cup. Juan was flirting around Porsche at Lone Star Le Mans last year and that was the buzz. It would DEFINITELY be a great move for both parties. They get a hell of a driver and he gets a shot at the Triple Crown.
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Mar 27, 2016 02:13
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i love kimi to death but i don't see him as being on the same level as montoya in terms of being competitive in various disciplines. he seems to enjoy non-F1 stuff but i really think his skillset is most suited for F1.
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Mar 27, 2016 03:34
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Junyer is going to donate his brain for research. Pretty cool. https://www.twitter.com/DaleJr/status/713908370231730177
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Mar 27, 2016 04:00
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That's pretty rad he's continuing to do all he can for hot brain
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Mar 27, 2016 12:34
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I hope everyone remembers how good this makes them feel when he Benoit's his family one day
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Mar 27, 2016 15:46
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FuzzySkinner posted:I don't know. I don't see how Indy is a steppingstone to running stock cars. Its been proven quite a bit over the last few years that doing well in one doesn't translate to doing well in the other. I would watch Kimi in either series though. I thought for sure he was going to lose his ride at Ferrari a couple years ago when they struggled so badly but now that Ferrari is competitive again it seems like Kimi still has it in him to compete with the best in F1 and it would certainly be interesting to see how he would fair in either series. I would definitely watch to see how he does running ovals at the very least if he went to Indy.
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Mar 27, 2016 16:03
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VikingSkull posted:I hope everyone remembers how good this makes them feel when he Benoit's his family one day Viking, I'm sure you could find a way for a chocolate cake or a basket full of puppies or kittens to be a disaster. There was no mental anguish or steroid abuse involved in the Benoit case, none whatsoever.
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Mar 27, 2016 22:59
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bigbillystyle posted:I don't see how Indy is a steppingstone to running stock cars. Its been proven quite a bit over the last few years that doing well in one doesn't translate to doing well in the other. I would watch Kimi in either series though. I thought for sure he was going to lose his ride at Ferrari a couple years ago when they struggled so badly but now that Ferrari is competitive again it seems like Kimi still has it in him to compete with the best in F1 and it would certainly be interesting to see how he would fair in either series. I would definitely watch to see how he does running ovals at the very least if he went to Indy. it's not a stepping stone in the sense that being successful on indycar ovals doesn't mean you'd be successful in nascar, but that's different from it being a useful transition for an F1 driver. but now that i'm thinking about it, only penske or ganassi could come close to affording him in indycar.
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Mar 27, 2016 23:56
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Elitist Bitch posted:Viking, I'm sure you could find a way for a chocolate cake or a basket full of puppies or kittens to be a disaster. There was no mental anguish or steroid abuse involved in the Benoit case, none whatsoever. either that or it was a direct CTE joke considering Benoit used a flying headbutt regularly also chocolate cake will give you diabetes
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Mar 28, 2016 01:57
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These declassified FBI files are amazing.   https://archive.org/details/RalphDaleEarnhardtSr.
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Mar 28, 2016 05:12
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Actually the more I read that letter the more I'm not convinced it's like, VikingSkull's dad or something...
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Mar 28, 2016 05:16
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So which one of ya'll did that?
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Mar 28, 2016 05:17
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bigbillystyle posted:I don't see how Indy is a steppingstone to running stock cars. Its been proven quite a bit over the last few years that doing well in one doesn't translate to doing well in the other. I would watch Kimi in either series though. I thought for sure he was going to lose his ride at Ferrari a couple years ago when they struggled so badly but now that Ferrari is competitive again it seems like Kimi still has it in him to compete with the best in F1 and it would certainly be interesting to see how he would fair in either series. I would definitely watch to see how he does running ovals at the very least if he went to Indy. It just seems like a much more natural transition in a few ways. I think the opposite would also be true in regards to a Cup driver ever doing F1. When Gordon was contacted to race for BAR Honda back in the day? They pushed for him to run with Kool Green. He balked, and stuck with Cup. You go to Cup, and you suck? sometimes your ego takes a hit and it doesn't quite recover for a while. If he ran Indy to kind of allow him to transition to running Cup? It'd be a good move in that regard. I do agree with Wicka though. You're not going to get a former WDC to drive for any team that isn't Penske IMO. That's just fact. Run IndyCar for 2-3 seasons. Run the Road Courses, Plate Tracks and a few select dates with Roger's team during that time, and then run Cup full time. That'd be my plan for him to be successful in Cup. If he runs it full time? Yeah that won't end well for him. FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Mar 28, 2016 |
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Mar 28, 2016 05:28
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LordPants posted:Actually the more I read that letter the more I'm not convinced it's like, VikingSkull's dad or something... my dad was a huge Earnhardt fan so it ain't him also have a fun article on why Smokey will never be in the HoF when the media takes up his cause, then he'll get in....this is good
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Mar 28, 2016 12:32
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Smokey posted:The son and daughter of Bill Jr., I don’t know them. I’ve heard the daughter (Lesa France Kennedy) is sharp and the son is an rear end in a top hat. My boy Sam went to high school with Brian, and he seconded his rear end in a top hat rating.
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Mar 28, 2016 13:16
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FuzzySkinner posted:It just seems like a much more natural transition in a few ways. I think the opposite would also be true in regards to a Cup driver ever doing F1. When Gordon was contacted to race for BAR Honda back in the day? They pushed for him to run with Kool Green. He balked, and stuck with Cup. this sounds like too much effort for kimi tbqh. america would love that guy though.
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Mar 28, 2016 13:26
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I would be down for Kimi in nascar or Hinch in NASCAR doing a Kimi impression
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Mar 28, 2016 13:35
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Seriously Kimi driving a car for Nemco was peak NASCAR
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Mar 28, 2016 14:35
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VikingSkull posted:my dad was a huge Earnhardt fan so it ain't him Kim Jong France caved and basically told the voters to vote for Bruton. If he finds some benefit of putting Smokey on the ballot, it'll happen. Smokey's story and the war with France could make a great 30-for-30. Did NASCAR buy up all the books or something? Barnes and Noble has it for $269.50, and it's even higher on Amazon.
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Mar 28, 2016 15:45
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CBJSprague24 posted:Kim Jong France caved and basically told the voters to vote for Bruton. If he finds some benefit of putting Smokey on the ballot, it'll happen. Smokey's story and the war with France could make a great 30-for-30. http://shop.carbonpressonline.com/product.sc?productId=10&categoryId=2
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