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Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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Lockmat posted:

Green party for naïve, idealistic youngsters

Hbomb has awarded you the grand prize! Not as grand as he wants it to be though. A million points might introduce a bit too much inflation. I'll have to cut you down to 4½ points instead!

Also, because I am a filthy socialist, the rest of you get slightly lower amounts of points, made of silver, or bronze

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Frederic votes for freedom



BravestOfTheLamps storms the Warsaw Arsenal, finding 3 points inside!

Zanzibar Ham and ikanreed get 1 point each!

does anyone want to tally up how many points people have so far, or should i do that

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ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Instant Grat posted:

Hbomb has awarded you the grand prize! Not as grand as he wants it to be though. A million points might introduce a bit too much inflation. I'll have to cut you down to 4½ points instead!

Also, because I am a filthy socialist, the rest of you get slightly lower amounts of points, made of silver, or bronze


BravestOfTheLamps storms the Warsaw Arsenal, finding 3 points inside!

Zanzibar Ham and ikanreed get 1 point each!

does anyone want to tally up how many points people have so far, or should i do that

Everyone is tied at anime points.

Correnth
Aug 29, 2000


Cold hard science trumps ponies.

Fun Shoe
I have a deep love for this game in all its weirdness. The story is anime as gently caress and the plot can put you to sleep but I could gush for hours about how amazing the combat system is - Or at least becomes after you get a few party levels. Playing couch co-op NG+ at Party Level 6 with friends on the PS3 version is a blast; even though I've never played the 360 version I don't think it would be as entertaining if it's less challenging.

And though you can definitely see its age starting to show through for being a nearly ten year old game it still looks p drat good. Eternal Sonata is my jam, is what I'm saying.

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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Boop. Chapter 2 is over! At last! I think I remember it being by far the longest out of all of them.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
"So anyway that's why I murdered those dragons."

That first minute is amazing.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

I can't believe chapter 2 is loving done.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

For the life of me I couldn't see the lizard in the blackness. Please someone, I must be able to see it, it's the only mildly entertaining thing that happened in the game.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
Was it really dark or something? Maybe the encoding made it harder/impossible to see.

D_W
Nov 12, 2013

I saw no lizard either. I fear poor Instant and Hbomber may have been made delusional by wanting something interesting to happen.

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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I went through the original recording, all ready to point out the lizard that had clearly been eaten by compression, but no, I couldn't find it. Even after fiddling with the video, tweaking brightness, contrast, and gamma, I didn't find anything.

So I can only conclude that me and Hbomb did indeed have a strage, anime-induced shared hallucination.

Instant Grat fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Mar 28, 2016

Admiral H. Curtiss
May 11, 2010

I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.
Or maybe an actual lizard ran across your TV.

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009
I been catching up with this lp and I'm at episode 11 when you guys do that awful fort dungeon.

I just want to say that in the PS3 version they actual put a diagram of what each switch does in the switch rooms so you're not just blindly figuring out what each switch does. The dungeon in the ps3 version is still awful with tons of wondering around and backtracking but it looks basically impossible in the 360 version.

pichupal
Mar 23, 2013

Poochy ain't Stupid.
I might be.
With a Chapter over, it's a good time as any to talk about the differences in the PS3 version once again!

~~


Chapter 2 (PS3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vrHZQ3otMU
So, the three scenes in this video:

The first takes place right as you enter Fort Fermata, same as the 360 version. Except, instead of monologuing his concerns about dreams and reality he just flat out tells everyone hey, I think you're in my dream. Then Polka gets angry at Allegretto. This conversation is even stupider when it's not all in his head. (I also forgot this scene was different in the 360 version and had to reupload it).

The second scene I added because both you and the designers realized the lead up to the mineral powder conversation came out of nowhere.

The last one is actually the second Attract Mode that can play on the PS3 version. It crams in another moment for Allegretto and Polka, but it also shows the terrible loss of Salsa's hat to the waves. Will they be reunited?

The least important addition that I stuck in a separate video is another song. The piano you examined in Forte will play Mazurka in B Minor (Opus. 33 No. 4). No powerpoint or anything. Just the song. It's... pretty nice, I guess? I have no idea why they thought they needed to add it. Incidentally, Mazurka is Falsetto's French name.


The trading quest is dumb.

You've also stumbled in and out of the game long trading quest. Following the quest to this point would get you a second pair of Speed Shoes so you would have a spare to trade for the Basket. Equipped in battle it increases in battle movement speed, which can be pretty helpful with Viola with her damage being proportional to distance, and I don't think any other items in game have this effect. It's good at this point at least since there isn't really any competition for accessory slots.

~~

Also, Tuba is ridiculous in Encore. Any unguarded attack will kill you, and guarded ones can still take off 1/2 the health off Salsa or Beat.

pichupal fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Mar 29, 2016

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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Thanks for going through all the trouble, friend. Goin' in the OP.

As for the trading quest, we will get into that later. It is indeed incredibly dumb.

64bitrobot
Apr 20, 2009

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I remember trying to play this once. I'm watching now, but I couldn't make myself get past Fort gently caress this game is so confusing. Maybe now I can actually see what's up with the rest of it!

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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Our editing workflow is that Hbomb does some magic bullshit to the audio of us talking, which I don't understand because I am an amateur who just barely knows how to use Audacity. Then I take that and sync it up with the audio from the game, adjusting volumes as necessary so the game doesn't drown us out. Then I do any necessary editing to the actual video and upload it.

I say this to explain that, if either of us has Life poo poo come up, that can bottleneck getting new episodes up - Hbomb had some poo poo happen, on top of being busy with the videos that people on Patreon actually pay him for, and that is why it has been so long since the last update.

This is a swamp level.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

That was definitely a swamp level.


You know those multi directional seem pretty useless. The enemy count doesn't ever seem to get high enough for hitting beside or behind you to matter at all.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

I sure do love fighting exact repeats of the same formation over and over again. :geno:

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
I just want to say I saw hbomberguy's videos in a completely separate website, and had a "oh poo poo, it's that poor bastard who has to put up with eternal sonata" moment. Also they're excellent and everyone should watch them.

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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ikanreed posted:

I just want to say I saw hbomberguy's videos in a completely separate website, and had a "oh poo poo, it's that poor bastard who has to put up with eternal sonata" moment. Also they're excellent and everyone should watch them.

Where? Just out of curiosity!

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Instant Grat posted:

Where? Just out of curiosity!

We hunted the mammoth.

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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Quick question, would you guys prefer a single ~45 minutes update to close out this recording, or two shorter videos?

Thesaya
May 17, 2011

I am a Plant.

Instant Grat posted:

Quick question, would you guys prefer a single ~45 minutes update to close out this recording, or two shorter videos?

Longer for me.

pichupal
Mar 23, 2013

Poochy ain't Stupid.
I might be.
I'll go with a longer single update.

This reminds me I need to catch up gameplay wise.

Ometeotl
Feb 13, 2012



It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...



Yeah, longer

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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Cool, I'll have it up tomorrow probably!

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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This episode name inspired by all the Dark Souls Dark Souls Dark Souls I've been playing lately

Instant Grat fucked around with this message at 23:45 on May 6, 2016

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Hbomb thank you for helping me peer pressure Grat into playing Good Video Game #1 Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Seeing the same enemies over and over was already noticeable but now its just ridiculous.

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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Kibayasu posted:

Seeing the same enemies over and over was already noticeable but now its just ridiculous.

Yeah, I'm thinking I might have to start editing out battles where the conversation is just "do this thing and use this attack", because it is really Final Fantasy X levels of "fight this thing, again, also again".

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different

Hot Rope Guy
I remember playing this game to the end with a friend of mine. My friend also got extremely frustrated and angry about this game.

This is a very good watch.

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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Fun fact: Since we recorded this, I have played and beaten Bloodborne, Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, and Dark Souls 2, in that order.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSJCSR4MuhU

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

You might have failed the quest that will probably conclude itself in same lame joke for several worth of work?

Oh no!

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
how is tri-crescendo still around as a company

did this game even sell

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009
The 360 was so starved for games in Japan that this is considered one of it's gems and sold decently well iirc.

Zettace fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jun 6, 2016

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
does this game have any redeeming qualities

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

the cartoony artstyle doesn't look absolutely hideous even years down the line?

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Suspicious Dish posted:

does this game have any redeeming qualities

The light/dark thing seems neat if underutilized.

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Correnth
Aug 29, 2000


Cold hard science trumps ponies.

Fun Shoe

Suspicious Dish posted:

does this game have any redeeming qualities

Once the game finally unlocks all of it for you the combat system is genuinely good and fun. I've only ever played the PS3 version, which ratchets up the difficulty by quite a bit over the 360 release (enemies have higher stats/give less XP), and looking at the videos from this thread the 360 version feels way too easy. The PS3 version makes every battle a genuine challenge, and missing a block can often drain you of at least 3/4ths health, if it doesn't outright kill the character. Particularly in NG+, which is drat near masochistic but in a good way.

The story is... one-of-a-kind, and there are a lot of other gameplay design decisions that were poorly thought-out or implemented, but I love the combat of Eternal Sonata and could sperg rant about how entertaining and well balanced it is for pages.

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