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spacetoaster posted:Protests in brussels. The dude with glasses was assaulting anti-immigration protesters just before the Sean Bean stunt double decked him. Wait, so glasses punched first? e: how do I keep getting this god damned first posts. Here, suffer like I have: 
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If CIG was actually running out of money they would put another "Limited" ship up for sale: 1500 available at $2000 each for an easy 3 million. Closing half the studios (LA, Austin) and putting the PU on the back burner until SQ42 is done seems plausible.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Yeah, people are setting themselves up to be disappointed if they hope CIG is completely out of steam. I don't doubt Derek's convinced, but then again he was pretty adamant that CIG would fold before new year's as well - I don't think everyone would agree with his conclusions at this point if we had his information You could downsize and stretch another sale period out in October-December 2016, but if the game just isn't there anyone on the coding side will know it's basically scamming people.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I'll believe CIG is dead when Derek's standing atop its smoldering carcass with a pitchfork in his hand, not before then.
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Eldragon posted:If CIG was actually running out of money they would put another "Limited" ship up for sale: 1500 available at $2000 each for an easy 3 million. This would make sense if they thought they could pull it off I'm not sure they can sell 1500 ships, and just about all those sold would be purchased by store credit A failed fire sale like that would make a bank run almost inevitable
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Beet Wagon posted:Wait, so glasses punched first? There's a video of it over in gbs. I'm not really picking sides, but the glasses dude was out of line shoving people and grabbing their protest signs. I get that he was really upset by them not agreeing with his beliefs, but I think it's funny that he thought he could act like an rear end without any response from other angry people.
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GabrielMobius posted:Golden salt. I will use it to season my fries this afternoon. I have considered it. Especially given all the "don't you loving do it!" vibes I'm getting from my attorneys  Seriously, tbh, for me, this is not about scooping and/or hurting anyone. It's just not my style. My whole premise for this is to prove that I have been right since day one, and that this has ended up hurting some (we don't care about Shitizens) gamers, gaming in general, and by a larger extent, video game crowd-funding. And it's something that I take very seriously. Especially because that croberts left the industry, then came back and started making waves, pissing and spitting on everything with his "gently caress publishers", "I am going to save PC gaming" bullshit. It was all bullshit. Right from the start. And it doesn't help that with his lying talentless hack of a wife, decided that they would treat those who WERE in the industry all this time, poorly because they could and had the money and clout to do it. When I wrote that first blog, I thought that would be the end of it. I was wrong. Once they made it personal, they triggered my autism spectrum and penchant for never - ever - letting go of a bone until I had chewed it until it disappears. And they gave me a bone. Then tried to hide the bag of bones. Here we are. I am going to see this to the very bitter end because I know with 100% certainty, sources be damned, that I'm right.
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AP posted:You could downsize and stretch another sale period out in October-December 2016, but if the game just isn't there anyone on the coding side will know it's basically scamming people. There's so many idiots out there stating "CIG is making great progress, look at all these fancy ships they've made plus they got like everything done it's just not released yet" I know they're a small minority of loud idiots, but even so 
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Daztek posted:Toops did you find time to update the repo? Forgot to merge changes to sandbox. Fuggit, I'm just gonna give you guys read access to master. Also, did you notice? 
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cocaine dad show posted:I assumed the 30-90 days was encompassing the various deadlines on terms of service/s beginning to hit, notice periods given by people who are leaving being variously reached, the beginning of further scale-backs and so on, and the reactions to those snowballing Your assumptions were correct. See my "ripple effect" post.
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Beet Wagon posted:Here, suffer like I have: Why does she have frozen food packaging on her arm?
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tooterfish posted:Are you sure about this? Last time I read about Project Zomboid they were dead against procedural generation of any kind, especially map generation. They wouldn't even contemplate it. http://projectzomboid.com/blog/2015/10/my-generation/ From here onwards they discuss it. They're building out Louisville and decided somewhere back there that maybe building the largest city in Kentucky by hand was a bad idea. Things like skyscrapers and other such buildings will be hand crafted but the rank and file of suburbia will be a matter of houses being built around roads. Furthermore homes people build will be uploadable to the Steam workshop. So that's nice. Their hope is that it'll vastly reduce the overhead for people who wish to craft their own scenarios/cities to upload/play with. So it's a neat ambition.
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spacetoaster posted:There's a video of it over in gbs. I'm not really picking sides, but the glasses dude was out of line shoving people and grabbing their protest signs. Aye social media is reporting from first hand witnesses that the escalation actually started by extreme left wingers, and provoked the right wingers. But you won't be hearing this on the news.
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Toops posted:Forgot to merge changes to sandbox. Fuggit, I'm just gonna give you guys read access to master. Yes 
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spacetoaster posted:There's a video of it over in gbs. I'm not really picking sides, but the glasses dude was out of line shoving people and grabbing their protest signs. Oh, well yeah I mean if you're shoving people and poo poo you really can't be too surprised if you get popped.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:This would make sense if they thought they could pull it off AP posted:890 Jump, Idris M, new Corvette concept, those would all make money. AP's theory seems likely. I agree that CIG isn't in fire-sale mode yet, but if they go that direction, the Idris and 890 are juicy targets and would likely make them some fast cash.  time, I think that if they are going down, there's also got to be someone involved who knows that if they break their word on those things as limited sales, they're confirming the ship sinking; so they're fighting with themselves over if to buoy things with a quick cash-grab or just to try to ride this out and hope SQ42 does... something.It won't.
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I did not used to be a fan of Derek, but I've seen people criticize him here...while he does occasionally have a hard time admitting he could be wrong on something, the only people he has ever actually personally gone after have made it personal about him and I can respect that
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orcinus posted:Why does she have frozen food packaging on her arm? Man, I don't fuckin' know. It's just like with Bunnyman and his weird costumes - I'm not here to try and understand the autism, I'm just here to document it.
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spacetoaster posted:Protests in brussels. The dude with glasses was assaulting anti-immigration protesters just before the Sean Bean stunt double decked him. Man, anti-immigration protesters are about the LAST people I'd gently caress with. Especially if I was a chubby manchild with balsa wood glasses.
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Toops posted:Man, anti-immigration protesters are about the LAST people I'd gently caress with. Especially if I was a chubby manchild with balsa wood glasses. i bet the punchman supports trump
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:This would make sense if they thought they could pull it off As you already mentioned, they would declare it new cash only. Which "might" be a warning sign to backers, but at this point the whales are so deluded I don't think they can actually see warning signs. There just seems to be a ton of ways for CIG to suck more money out of backers; plus I'm sure some publisher somewhere would be willing to buy the company on the cheap. I doubt they have any creditors so a publisher might buy CIG on a fire sale deal to CR, who then walks away much like what he did with Freelancer.
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Eldragon posted:If CIG was actually running out of money they would put another "Limited" ship up for sale: 1500 available at $2000 each for an easy 3 million. They are hosed if they don't all sell, they took a lot of flak when they put 5000 of the constellation phoenix up for sale when they had 50 million in funding and they didn't all sell. They tried to explain it away by saying they forgot to count the upgrade packs, but there was something like 3000 left and the Citizens were questioning their faith for weeks after that. Beanie babies died almost overnight when supply outstripped demand. It's valuable because somebody can't get it, if everyone can get it, it's just not as valuable.
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AP posted:They are hosed if they don't all sell, they took a lot of flak when they put 5000 of the constellation phoenix up for sale when they had 50 million in funding and they didn't all sell. They tried to explain it away by saying they forgot to count the upgrade packs, but there was something like 3000 left and the Citizens were questioning their faith for weeks after that. And they've pretty much torpedo'd the value of Vanduul ships recently
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Truga posted:Honestly the amount of cash they've been raking in, they'd have to be extraordinarily dumb to not try to get some extra via secondary sources, cause they probably could, at least when the whale train was still going strong if not now. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if they did raise some funds, with backer funding as collateral/deposit. Even if they did, with how much splurging Chris seems to be willing to do, it wouldn't have made a lot of difference and likely would have been spent on more mo-cap shooting or more stupid overpriced furniture.
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Toops posted:Forgot to merge changes to sandbox. Fuggit, I'm just gonna give you guys read access to master. I still like the airplane desk. I chuckled a lot. I still stand by my guess this mess makes it to quarter 3, how much of the mess makes it there, wasn't the original bet. If the game fails in 3 days, or 3 months, doesn't matter, this kind of stuff will be legend anyways. paaarp
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Dusty Lens posted:http://projectzomboid.com/blog/2015/10/my-generation/ Does project zomboid have proper controller support yet? I got it ages ago and I can see the potential but I hate keyboard and mouse controls.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:There's so many idiots out there stating "CIG is making great progress, look at all these fancy ships they've made plus they got like everything done it's just not released yet" I meant the coding side developers, at some point it becomes too obvious to ignore and the fear/effort of finding another job is less than staying onboard the train when you know the bridge ahead is out.
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D_Smart posted:No. The issue with the amount is about statutes for legally actionable fraudulent inducement Sure they can sue, but so what. This is going to turn into a class action lawsuit, and the only one who will profit is the lead lawyer. Everyone else will get a check for $4.20
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biS4AmnS1BY I am really looking forward to this.
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Lladre posted:Sure they can sue, but so what. This is going to turn into a class action lawsuit, and the only one who will profit is the lead lawyer. I really hope this drags on for 6 more months though. Or a christmas release. Imangine being a kid and getting this game for christmas? ha
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Just skipped about a thousand posts, but this is pretty important for any Aus goons still needing to get a refund.quote:Federal Court finds Valve made misleading representations about consumer guarantees   Our federal court finds that you're entitled to all Australian consumer protections for digital goods and that consumer law cannot be overwritten by ToS.  I wrote about this in my January refund request 
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Citizens are documenting how much of the game BookmarkStretch Goal Status Update For those New to the Star Citizen Community https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e9rQr2_iR0XPrvYrCNoFk4nNq_5VrrJFXf2G02MmVnU/
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AP posted:I meant the coding side developers, at some point it becomes too obvious to ignore and the fear/effort of finding another job is less than staying onboard the train when you know the bridge ahead is out. Oh, yeah that makes sense. I'd think they could keep a lot of that under wraps for a while though - for all I know that guy who does the Austin updates on AtV could be the only guy left F42 would be harder to keep quiet about, but then again it's probably harder to get a game dev job in the UK Might be totally wrong though
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Does project zomboid have proper controller support yet? I got it ages ago and I can see the potential but I hate keyboard and mouse controls. I think it's still something you have to do yourself. The only game I've used a controller with in the last half decade has been Dark Souls so I can't say as to the quality in PZ. Honestly I haven't played PZ enthusiastically for quite a few builds since my last MP playthrough with some friends. It continues to be a game that I follow enthusiastically and they're making some really pronounced strides towards a completed game but doing the whole playthrough/abandon/playthrough/abandon early access thing is a cycle that I wore thin on a while ago. e; On a side note I'm glad to see that NOW/imminent collapse has already evolved to 30-90 days. Given that DS declared them bankrupt I guess that'll put them a couple million dollars in the hole. 2 days until the mass walkout? Dusty Lens fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Daztek posted:And they've pretty much torpedo'd the value of Vanduul ships recently Yeah, 890 Jump, Idris M and the new corvette that's pretty much all that's left in the cupboard I think. Any new concept needs artwork and some fresh ideas, mudflation will just hurt them more and it's hard to have fresh ideas if you are panicking.
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D_Smart posted:Exactly. Or the guy who was part of the team that decided not to give them money Derek, when it's all on the cusp of utterly collapsing, you should show up at CIG's office (or where ever Chris, specifically, is located at the time) and make an offer to help them get it released. Then just laugh, say "Yeah... Right". And walk away. Just make sure you're wearing full combat armor, 'cause, I don't think they'd be greeting you with Earl Grey tea and biscuits. 
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Daztek posted:Citizens are documenting how much of the game at this point its sheer stubbornness in wanting to look like they are right they are less concerned with the thousands that they spent than they are with convincing people (and themselves) that it was a good purchase
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Dusty Lens posted:http://projectzomboid.com/blog/2015/10/my-generation/ It's a shame, because they're nearly there. They recognise the advantages, and seem to have gone a long way to solving some of the problems (their tool can create streets of procedural houses), but still aren't getting that it can be done well enough to complement their "hand crafted" content (which is probably built from templates anyway, go figure). It seems like a game where you're supposed to die a lot, so only having one (or even a handful) of maps really kills the appeal for me. I can't blame them for building the game they want, not the game I want, I just think their attitude towards PG is very silly and reactionary (it kinda echoes that of Croberts and the CIG fanboys). tooterfish fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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