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canyoneer posted:This place is not a place of honor.  OK or a 2" thick slab of Uranium
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I got a call from my sister about a month ago, they had the HVAC dude over to check their system. He needed to use the hose out back to spray off something or other, and she told me that every time he turned the spigot on, water was leaking into the basement. My first guess was burst pipe, but she said that as soon as he turned off the spigot, the leak stopped. So then I figured, welp, guess it's something dicked up in the spigot itself, and told her that my dad and I would come over to look at it. There wasn't a shutoff inside for that branch, so I figured we'd get her one of those newfangled frost free spigots and pop that on, problem solved. Get over to the house, and surprise, she already has a frost free spigot. Problem is, she never disconnected the hose reel from the spigot over the winter. All of the water that was still in the bottom of the reel and hose was still sitting in the spigot, then froze, and blew apart the section of pipe between the valve seat and the spigot itself. The split was on the top of the pipe (and tucked away behind some insulation), which is why she didn't see the problem immediately. Guess that answers the question as to why it was only leaking when you turned it on from the outside. So, frost free spigots are great, so long as you disconnect the loving hose from them in the winter. EDIT: Knew I had a pic of it somewhere...  What surprised me is the fact that the garden hose itself was fine, I would figure that if the ice could expand enough to blow out a section of copper, it should have busted the hose as well. She has learned her lesson, she'll be draining the hose and disconnecting it after each use from now on. Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Mar 28, 2016 |
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Mar 28, 2016 16:44
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Boogeyman posted:So, frost free spigots are great, so long as you disconnect the loving hose from them in the winter. I always make a habit of draining the water in my hoses after I close the valve anyway, after seeing a pressurized hose burst open when I was a kid. Probably was a lovely cheap hose, but it made an impression.
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Mar 28, 2016 16:49
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I always make a habit of draining the water in my hoses after I close the valve anyway, after seeing a pressurized hose burst open when I was a kid. Probably was a lovely cheap hose, but it made an impression. I've always done this, too, though not for that reason. Mostly I just think it's fun watching the jet go from city pressure to trickle. I still disconnect my hoses in the winter and store them in the garage anyway.
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Mar 28, 2016 17:00
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As a kid who performed stupid experiments and broke a couple of garden hoses, you'd be shocked at the amount of abuse a decent one is willing to put up with.
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Mar 28, 2016 18:55
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Shady Amish Terror posted:As a kid who performed stupid experiments and broke a couple of garden hoses, you'd be shocked at the amount of abuse a decent one is willing to put up with. They'll kink and make life miserable, but they'll never be quite bad enough for you to buy a new one.
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Mar 28, 2016 18:58
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Magnus Praeda posted:I've always done this, too, though not for that reason. Mostly I just think it's fun watching the jet go from city pressure to trickle. Yea, we drain ours and bring it in during the fall. It's not like I am going to need to spend a ton of time watering anything at that point, and it spares the hose the wear from freezing and/or being run over by a snowblower.
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Mar 28, 2016 19:04
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Suspect Bucket posted:They'll kink and make life miserable, but they'll never be quite bad enough for you to buy a new one. They say the same thing about me
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Mar 28, 2016 19:08
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Funny development over the weekend, got a new water filter for my fridge and was running the 2 gallons through the door and about half way hot water started coming out of the door. I guess they had a 50/50 shot of tapping the right line.
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Mar 28, 2016 19:42
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Boogeyman posted:What surprised me is the fact that the garden hose itself was fine, I would figure that if the ice could expand enough to blow out a section of copper, it should have busted the hose as well. She has learned her lesson, she'll be draining the hose and disconnecting it after each use from now on. The pipe material has to stretch by less than 10% to accommodate the expansion of water freezing (assuming a single freeze). This can pretty easily break copper but it's a trivial amount of stretch for most hose materials. Do those 'mushroom head' anti siphon hose bibs not break pressure and drain like the addon vacuum breakers do?
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Zhentar posted:The pipe material has to stretch by less than 10% to accommodate the expansion of water freezing (assuming a single freeze). This can pretty easily break copper but it's a trivial amount of stretch for most hose materials. Apparently not, because this one had an anti-siphon thingy on the top of the spigot, and it didn't do poo poo to relieve the pressure. And the hose being able to stretch makes sense, I figured that it would have expanded enough to keep the pipe from popping, but once the water starts freezing, it's not going to move out of the copper and into the hose to continue expanding, kind of stuck where it is.
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Mar 28, 2016 20:57
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OSU_Matthew posted:Hmm... Something doesn't look quite right This isn't getting enough love, holy poo poo. My only guess is the buried service drop had a break somewhere along its run and this was the temporary "fix." Underground electric service is great until something breaks, then it loving sucks. Edit: looks like the meter box has a utility issued tamper seal on it so I guess it's legit... MullardEL34 fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Mar 28, 2016 |
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Mar 28, 2016 23:01
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ColHannibal posted:Funny development over the weekend, got a new water filter for my fridge and was running the 2 gallons through the door and about half way hot water started coming out of the door. I usually see the dishwasher tapped into the hot line so it should be more obvious than a 50/50. I wonder if they mixed up the two lines?
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Boogeyman posted:... When I did homeowner's claims (doing commercial now), I got at least three of these each spring. The best ones were the folks that hooked up their sprinkler & let it run for a few hours, while never entering the basement. It can get pretty deep in three hours. Zhentar posted:Do those 'mushroom head' anti siphon hose bibs not break pressure and drain like the addon vacuum breakers do? Most of them were intallation issues: the sillcock has to be installed at a slight downward angle to the outside in order to properly drain; otherwise water can collect at the valve & freeze, as per the photo. The hose may not freeze because it can handle the expansion better. Kiss your sprayer/nozzle good-bye, though. PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Mar 29, 2016 03:08
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Not mine, but looks legit
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Mar 29, 2016 13:57
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GreenNight posted:Not mine, but looks legit Then you turn it 180 when you need to flush
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Mar 29, 2016 14:32
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I've seen some setups where the bathtub and sink have a shared faucet that's on a swivel so you can use it for both. Usually in "compact living" places.
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Mar 29, 2016 16:16
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Collateral Damage posted:I've seen some setups where the bathtub and sink have a shared faucet that's on a swivel so you can use it for both. Usually in "compact living" places. Why? This doesn’t actually save space. Are they that desperate to save a buck on plumbing?
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Mar 29, 2016 16:25
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also confused as to why youd bother with a tub if it's only half a human long
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Mar 29, 2016 16:35
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Ambrose Burnside posted:also confused as to why youd bother with a tub if it's only half a human long https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Little_People
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Ambrose Burnside posted:also confused as to why youd bother with a tub if it's only half a human long It's also the bucket where you wash your clothes.
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Mar 29, 2016 17:39
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Ambrose Burnside posted:also confused as to why youd bother with a tub if it's only half a human long It's relatively wide and deep, so you can sit in it and wash fairly easily. It's also plenty large enough to wash children or animals.
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Mar 29, 2016 17:44
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Ambrose Burnside posted:also confused as to why youd bother with a tub if it's only half a human long Bathing children and pets.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:00
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If I can't fully lay down on my back and drown myself in my own soapy filth, then I don't want it.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:16
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Time for pooping!
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Mar 29, 2016 19:06
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That's a terrible setup, you can barely see from the left row.
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Mar 29, 2016 19:17
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My Lovely Horse posted:That's a terrible setup, you can barely see from the left row. I assume there's another toilet on the other side of that wall, so you can put on your 3d glasses and watch the pooping happen in all its stereoscopic goodness.
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Mar 29, 2016 19:32
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Collateral Damage posted:I've seen some setups where the bathtub and sink have a shared faucet that's on a swivel so you can use it for both. Usually in "compact living" places. Ooooooh. I got confused and thought you were talking about those combo toilet/sink things.I'm looking at i super confused like, "Why are you climbing over the toilet to get in the shower? I also really like toilet/sink things. 
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Mar 29, 2016 23:08
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I think the idea of literally washing in a toilet is revolting.
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Pissflaps posted:I think the idea of literally washing in a toilet is revolting. You're not washing "in a toilet," you're washing with clean water in a sink that's sitting on top of the tank of a toilet and sending the greywater down into said toilet tank to be used for flushing rather than perfectly clean, potable water.
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Mar 29, 2016 23:21
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Imagine the confusion when guests mistake that contraption for some kind of stand-up bidet. Imagine the mess and the puddles on the floor and the damp trouser legs. Horrific.
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Mar 29, 2016 23:38
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Pissflaps posted:Imagine the confusion when guests mistake that contraption for some kind of stand-up bidet. Imagine the mess and the puddles on the floor and the damp trouser legs. Horrific. ..... you must be the worst houseguest ever.
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Mar 29, 2016 23:40
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Magnus Praeda posted:You're not washing "in a toilet," you're washing with clean water in a sink that's sitting on top of the tank of a toilet and sending the greywater down into said toilet tank to be used for flushing rather than perfectly clean, potable water. I like the environmental concept, but it looks like it would be awkward to stand to the side of a toilet and wash your hands. Would rather have a dedicated sink to the side with the drain pipe leading to the toilet tank if at all possible.
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Mar 29, 2016 23:46
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You mean the top of that toilet isn't the urinal?
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Both of those are from Japan. The sink/shower is a "unit bath" commonly seen in budget hotels and includes a toilet on the other side of the sink (total bathroom approx 4x6 feet.) The sink/toilet is common everywhere, and is an excellent option when a separate sink uses too much space/money. This is the toilet room (2.5x5 feet) where we're staying now.
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A separate sink would use too much space and money, so let's include a urinal?
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Anne Whateley posted:A separate sink would use too much space and money, so let's include a urinal? i figured it was so you could evacuate both at the same time like a true japanese salaryman.
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I can't explain what happened in that bathroom, but in new catalogs, a mini sink set into the wall starts at $400, and a tank-top faucet starts is $50. The tank-top gets a little splashy with kids, but is easy to use for anyone over 3 feet tall. It's cold water only anyway 
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peanut posted:Both of those are from Japan. I admittedly also like the tiny corner sink. You refill your night water glass, brush your teeth and wash your hands/face in the thing, how much real estate do you need when you're trying to maximize your space savings? Never have I thought, "Dang, I wish this bathroom sink was bigger." I am constantly wishing the kitchen sink is bigger though. Or you know, just put a dish rack in the shower. HEY, TINY HOUSE IDEA HURGHHERGHERL edit: Well, maybe if it wasn't jammed up next to a urinal, one would feel more comfortable having it anywhere near anything that goes in their mouth. Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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Ugh no this sink is barely enough for washing hands. Possibly because the urinal gets in the way. The sink/vanity for brushing teeth is in a different room with the washing machine, next to the bath. That little sink is just for rinsing pee hands. Edit: just keep the toothbrushes and gargle cup on the urinal. Cover the whole wall with mirrors. Medicine can be in a little basket hung on the towel rack peanut fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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