- Elukka
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I want the next world war to be fought primarily in the Himalayas. I want hypoxic soldiers with modern weaponry to double the height of Everest with a mound of garbage, corpses and human feces
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- Alan Smithee
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A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.
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As if the Chinese wouldn't build a pile of rocks higher than any other and then put a base on it
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- Orkin Mang
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- a turnip
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my boss is nepali and he's a loving oval office, i wish he'd died on everest instead of green boots
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- whose tuggin
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http://youtu.be/6knVO34Zqic#t=37m44s
Description:An interesting part of the documentary "Ghosts of K2" about one of the earliest expeditions, featuring climber Gilkey of "Gilkey Memorial" fame.
whose tuggin fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 25, 2016
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- Rondette
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Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.
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Grimey Drawer
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I'm a little embarrassed to have only just found out about this film.
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/mar/30/sherpa-norbu-tenzing-on-the-everest-circus-and-the-inevitability-of-another-disaster
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It was a little before 7am on 18 April 2014 when Jennifer Peedom was woken up by the sounds of an avalanche.
The Australian film-maker was in her tent on Base Camp at Mount Everest, on location with a camera crew to make a documentary exploring the lives and working conditions of Sherpa people. They are the Nepalese climbers who for decades have escorted tourists up and down the mountain: incredibly risky work for a very small share of the reward.
Peedom, 40, was told there had been an accident but only learned the extent of it later. Sixteen Sherpas had been killed, at the time the worst tragedy in Everest history (a year later 18 people perished in another avalanche). The director and her team, specialists in high altitude photography, picked up their cameras and continued filming.
“There was never any hesitation in how or why to do that because we were there to make a film about the disproportionate risk that Sherpas take in taking foreigners to the summit of Everest and back down again,” she says.
“You’re kind of running on adrenaline and every now and then you stop yourself and realise how upsetting the whole thing is. But then you say, this is what I am here to do. You snap yourself out of it and keep going.”
The end product is very likely the most majestic looking industrial dispute film ever made. The seemingly omnipotent beauty of Everest provides awe-inducing backgrounds for a truly disturbing examination of worker’s rights.
Having taken notice of 2013’s so-called Everest brawl, and having worked on projects on the mountain for the good part of a decade, the film-maker says she could sense things reaching a tipping point and felt a strong urge to be there.
“I could never have anticipated that an avalanche would come and kill 16 people. I could never have anticipated that,” she says. “But it felt for me that where things were at politically, tension really was at the point where it felt like anything that was going to happen was going to be the straw that broke the camel’s back.”
Norbu Tenzing, who works in San Francisco as vice-president of the American Himalayan Foundation, is a champion of Peedom’s documentary and features in it.
He describes Sherpa as “a big, big gift for the mountaineering workers and Sherpas. This is a subject that has always played in our minds and hasn’t been talked about much. This film has given that issue a voice.”
Tenzing, 51, is the son of history’s most famous Sherpa, Tenzing Norgay. Along with Edmund Hillary in 1953, Norgay – described by Time as one of the most influential people of the 20th century – became the first person known to have reached Everest’s summit.
On the question of what his father might think of the current state of affairs, Tenzing pulls no punches: “I think he would be quite horrified with the way things have turned out. Since the time he was climbing there’s been a complete change, a shift in the way people climb Everest and what motivates them.
“The sense of people going on an adventure, working together, doing something nobody’s done before, with a sense of comradeship and working together – that spirit doesn’t exist now.
“It’s just a total service industry, where you’re fulfilling the egos of western climbers and people from south Asia who want to test the limits of how close they can get to death, at great expense of the Sherpas. I don’t think my father would want to be alive to see the circus that Everest has turned into.”
While praising Peedom’s documentary as an exercise in awareness raising, Tenzing says that since the 2014 tragedy almost nothing has actually changed for Sherpas other than a US$5,000 increase in their life insurance (from US$10,000 to US$15,0000). This, according to Tenzing, “barely covers the cost of the funeral”.
I don’t think my father would want to be alive to see the circus that Everest has turned into
“The working conditions haven’t changed. The pay increases haven’t changed. The ways to reduce risk haven’t changed.”
Neither Tenzing, Peedom nor the Sherpas themselves advocate shutting down commercial operations on Everest. Sherpa people have limited employment opportunities and rely on tour operations for their annual income.
But with few safeguards put in place by the government, and a general reluctance to speak out for fear of repercussions, the terms of their employment are largely dictated by owners of expedition companies. Tenzing describes this as “the foxes minding the hen house”.
Out of respect for the victims of the 2014 avalanche, the Sherpas took an unprecedented decision and refused to continue climbing for the season. They also did not climb in 2015, when expeditions were cancelled because of the earthquakes.
“The Sherpas are on their way to Base Camp now to start setting up for a new season,” says Peedom. “They have lost two seasons’ income so they are under a lot of pressure to make sure as much as they can that the season goes without incident. Let’s hope that it does.”
Tenzing, of course, hopes for the same, but is not optimistic about long-term prospects: “It’s just a matter of time before something like this happens again, because the safety measures are so poor.”
“The bottom line is this industry is a massive enterprise. It seems like it’s the wild west, where anybody can do anything and the government rakes in royalties and turns a blind eye to anything else that goes on.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn2vfS6bbK0
quote:In the 1950s, Tenzing Norgay, who along with New Zealand mountaineer Edmund Hillary became the first person known to have reached the summit of Mount Everest, popularised the stereotypical image of Sherpa people as smiling, tranquil, can-do workers happy to escort foreigners across precipitous native land.
Australian director Jennifer Peedom set out to make a documentary capturing a detailed picture of people who, as she remarked at the world premiere of her film Sherpa at the Sydney film festival, are often left on the cutting room floor in depictions of voyages to the top of the earth’s highest mountain.
Peedom’s idea came about in the wake of a violent confrontation between Europeans and Sherpas in April 2013 – the so-called Everest brawl – which made international headlines. Norgay was a campaigner for the rights of his people, who are now more outspoken after decades of being allocated a disproportionate share of the risks involved in climbing Everest’s treacherous slopes – and a disproportionate portion of the reward.
The director and her team, including cinematographer Renan Ozturk (a climber and specialist in high altitude photography) have fashioned what is very likely the most majestic-looking industrial dispute documentary ever made, the icy blue environment an awe-inspiring backdrop for a film largely about employment conditions and worker’s rights.
The intention was to make a documentary depicting the 2014 climbing season from the Sherpas point of view. The filmmakers weren’t to know they’d be on location when horrific tragedy struck – an avalanche down Everest’s perilous Khumbu Icefall, which killed 16 Sherpas.
This marked a turning point in the dispute over better employment conditions for a multimillion-dollar industry that has long boosted the Nepalese government with a cash bonanza but left those on its frontline poor. As one Sherpa puts it: “We can’t risk our lives just because foreigners can afford to pay.”
Peedom finds balance by sharing the film’s focus with New Zealand mountaineer Russell Brice and his clients. Brice is the owner of a major expedition company and advocates for the best interests of his business but also appears to genuinely care for his employees.
It’s hard to have much sympathy for foreigners whose holidays risk being ruined while Sherpas risk being killed – one outraged American goes so far as comparing the impending strike to being held ransom by terrorists – but Peedom remains more or less impartial.
The spiritual focus of her film is hooked on Sherpa culture and way of life. Had tragedy not struck, we probably would have seen more of the story of Phurba Tashi, a would-be protagonist on the precipice of breaking the world record for the number of times Everest’s summit has been reached in one year.
Peedom and her team responded to disaster with a steady hand, in more than one sense, and fulfilled a rare opportunity to make a responsive documentary that is large, beautiful, captivating and exhibits deep respect for the people and environments it photographs.
Here's a picture of Hillary and Tenzing Norgay. I just like it.
ETA- Here is a longish interview with the director
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIIey35rhEY
Rondette fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Mar 30, 2016
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- Artemis J Brassnuts
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I regret😢 to inform📢 I am the most sexually🍆 vanilla 🍦straight 📏 dude😰 on the planet🌎
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Is it available to stream anywhere?
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- Gargamel Gibson
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I will be the first Nordic man to piss on Green Boots.
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- KIT HAGS
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Stay sweet
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I will be the first Nordic man to piss on Green Boots.
Did last year's avalanche displace all the corpse landmarks?
There needs to be a search and rescue for Green Boots and Mallory's sun bleached rear end cheeks.
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I will be the first Nordic man to piss on Green Boots.
"If you see the viking dude's frozen stream from his floppy dick arching towards Green Boots, you know you're well into the death zone. And over here is our gift shop!"
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- SilvergunSuperman
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Does anyone recall the quote from one of these threads without my having to dig where someone wanted to die on Everest and become a permanent attraction with their mouth hungrily looming over their genitals or something?
I kept thinking about it at work and laughing.
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- Booger Presley
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I've been watching the documentary Meru and highly recommend it. It's about three pro climbers trying climb Meru and all their stories surrounding the attempt. Great photography, interesting story and people with skills instead of the tourists mothing to Everest.
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- StoneOfShame
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/31/woman-sorry-ben-nevis-rescue-selfie-stick I think we're gonna see this idiot die up Everest before long. Cross country runner with only running gear and selfie stick decides on a whim to go up Ben Nevis which is in winter mode and would need ice picks and poo poo. She just about gets rescued.
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Mark it zero!
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I don't think that's too bad really.
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[I had] just the stuff I had packed for the weekend and a stupid selfie stick. I kind of knew I was underprepared, and didn’t actually intend on getting to the top. I just sort of thought, ‘oh I’ve got this far – it’s not too bad – let’s carry on’.
So she was okay until she suddenly discovered she wasn't. Plenty of people get into similar situations and while it's kinda dumb, poo poo like this happens.
It's completely different from bucket-listing Everest.
Knowing the risks and ignoring them is more stupid I feel.
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That whole story was lifted by the journos from a forum thread she started to say thanks to the people who rescued her. Lazy buggers.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=637611
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quote:I was dressed in shorts, Salamon speedcross, a crampon on my wrist from where it kept falling off. Only supplies were a chocolate Lindt bunny that I ate before setting off
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- Alan Smithee
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That hollow bunny could have been filled with so much supplies. What a waste of space
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- XenophobicAirport
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Please have your weapons prepared at the terminal.
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So some dude has decided to paint the madness:
quote:A man has set off for Nepal to become a self-styled artist-in-residence on the world's highest mountain.
Derek Eland will spend six weeks at Everest Base Camp recording the experiences of those attempting to reach earth's highest peak.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-35950362
Starting next season you can get your reckless climb immortalized for when your relatives need something to remember you by after you get hit by a completely random act of God and kick it. Awesome.
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on your left there's greenboots, on your right there's yellow jacket, and if you look closely you'll see the painter, ironically immortalized as a statue to man's hubris
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- xsuperkidx
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Not sure if this was posted:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...edca_story.html
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The call could come any day now. When it does, Tyler Armstrong hopes to be one step closer to doing something he has dreamed about for years: climbing Mount Everest, Earth’s highest peak.
Tyler is 12. If he makes it to the top, he will be the youngest person to scale the most famous mountain in Asia, if not the world.
Records are nothing new to Tyler. Mountain climbing is in this California sixth-grader’s blood. He has been doing it for half his life.
Tyler told KidsPost how he got started: “I was watching a nature hiking documentary when I was 6, and I asked my dad if I could start climbing. He thought it was a joke.”
But his father, who was not a mountain climber, allowed Tyler to pursue his interest. The boy quickly proved how serious he was by eating more healthfully and by jogging. Before long, he was regularly running 4 1/2 miles around a nearby lake and training with experienced climbers.
Tyler takes part in a training climb on Mount Ranier in Washington state. (Family photo)
He scaled California’s Mount Whitney, the highest peak in the United States outside Alaska, when he was 7; Mount Kilimanjaro, the highest in Africa, when he was 8; Mount Aconcagua, the highest in South America, when he was 9; and Russia’s Mount Elbrus, usually considered the highest in Europe, when he was 11. (Along the way, he received donations and sponsors to help pay for the trips.)
He was the youngest or second-youngest to reach the summit on three of those four adventures. He aims to reach all “seven summits,” the top of the highest mountain on each continent. As part of that goal, Tyler is raising money to help cure a rare disorder called Duchenne muscular dystrophy. It affects mostly boys, leaving them unable to walk.
A new challenge
The six-week trek on snow-covered Everest will be Tyler’s toughest challenge. At the mountain’s summit (29,028 feet, give or take a little — scientists can’t agree), the oxygen level is one-third what it is at sea level. And winds can rage in excess of 100 miles per hour.
Tyler will be accompanied by his dad, two of his trainers, another veteran climber and local people called Sherpas (SHUR-puhs), who carry the gear for the trip. The group aims to reach the summit in mid-May, when the snow level is lowest. But first there is the question of getting permission for Tyler to go.
Everest straddles the border between Nepal (on the south side) and the Tibet region of China (on the north). Both sides require climbing permits, and both have minimum age requirements. The Tibet side, the route that Tyler plans to take, prohibits climbers younger than 18, so he needs special permission. That’s the call he and his father are waiting for.
If Tyler conquers Everest, he will break the record of fellow Californian Jordan Romero, who did it in 2010 at age 13.
Breaking records
More and more, it seems, kids are tackling thrill-seeking challenges that were once off-limits until adulthood. Some examples:
Tyler celebrates summiting Tanzania's Mount Kilimanjaro in 2013. He hopes to climb to the top of the highest peak on each of the seven continents. (Family photo)
●At age 9, Braden Dubois became the world’s youngest stock car driver when he raced older kids at his parents’ Michigan speedway in 2012.
●In 2009, Tiger Brewer of London, England, flew at 100 miles an hour while standing on the wing of his grandfather’s plane. Tiger was 8 and said he would have “wing-walked” even younger but had to wait until he was tall enough to fit into the plane’s harness.
Are they ready?
Not everyone applauds the youth trend. Guinness World Records, which publishes lists of factual or freaky human achievements and events in nature, discourages people younger than 16 from dangerous attempts to set a record. A few sports groups have similar age limits.
Some doctors and others worry that pushy parents and the popularity of extreme sports are driving kids to be daredevils.
“Kids aren’t mentally ready for these activities,” said Vani Sabesan, a professor and surgeon in Michigan who specializes in bone and muscle injuries. “They tend to underestimate risk.” Without proper training, she told the New York Times, “a lot of kids [are] thinking maybe they can do what . . . professional athletes can do.”
Thomas Kuepper, a professor and specialist in sports medicine in Germany, said young mountain climbers face a higher risk of hypothermia, a dangerous drop in body temperature brought on by extreme cold. And, he said, doctors don’t know enough about how to treat kids who get severe high-altitude sickness, or fluid in the lungs or on the brain. Tyler’s Everest goal is “utter nonsense,” Kuepper told a German website.
The climb is dangerous, even for adults, many of whom have died in the process.
Tyler and his dad have heard the critics but are confident he’s up to the challenge.
“It’s obviously a very dangerous sport,” said Kevin Armstrong, Tyler’s dad. “If he didn’t have the ability and mental maturity, we wouldn’t let him do it. But the professionals are telling us he’s got the ability.”
“There’s definitely a lot of naysayers,” Tyler agreed. “But they don’t know me. People have different strengths. The [critics] don’t base their objections on skill, just my age.”
So if he gets the go-ahead, does he think he can make it all the way up Everest? “I can’t say for 100 percent sure,” Tyler said, “but we’ll try our best.”
Pretty sure this should be considered negligence.
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- Cojawfee
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I guess it would be in poor taste to post the picture of his corpse when he inevitably dies.
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- FrozenVent
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No way Nepal is going to give a permit to a 12 year old this year, they need a successful season so the rich idiots will start coming back.
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First of all, it's way too early for this thread to be this depressing. I hope you're right and the kid doesn't get approval.
Second, Tyler is guaranteed to grow up to be an insufferable rear end in a top hat - clearly no one has ever told him 'no' before.
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