Beet Wagon posted:

Yeah gently caress it, I'm pretty sure hating Star Citizen is played out.

I'm getting another game package.

Crazy_BlackParrot posted:

Did Derek reveal the last clue yet?

Scruffpuff posted:

What is it about this generic, unimaginative, piece-of-poo poo tech demo that has people latching onto it like autistic lamprey eels? I get it with people who are into Star Wars, imagining themselves to be Jedi or smugglers or some poo poo. I get the appeal of Star Trek, when you can Kirk it up being all badass and banging all the greenies etc. But Star Citizen has nothing going for it, nothing to recognize, nothing that gives you any sense of the universe it supposedly represents. It's just an amalgam of random ideas thrown into a disorganized pile, like Chris's DNA. Why the fascination? This reminds me of the people submitting their Star Citizen "ships" to Lego.

Hobold posted:

I've not bothered with the code, as I'm bad a life. I like being able to think its both a troll, and something mind blowing at the same time.

Roeben posted:

Not yet, but he doesnt have to.

Eonwe posted:

Morning

Crazy_BlackParrot posted:

Did Derek reveal the last clue yet?

iron buns posted:

Crazy_BlackParrot posted:

How so?

Eonwe posted:

Morning

Roeben posted:

The hint I gave a few pages back is going to be better.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

You have to understand that the people who are really into Star Citizen are the ones who were exposed to it years before it was a lovely tech demo and was instead a hopeful cloud of dreams and JPEGs. Chris Roberts is a master at getting other people to spend their money, and in SC's case he did that by weaving this intricate tapestry of possibility and imagination that was just substantive enough to get people engaged but subjective enough that they could fit their own dream into the framework that Chris had crafted. Hell I was hooked for years and spent most of that time critically reviewing everything I could and providing helpful suggestions on ways things could improve, all based on the underlying assumption that SC really was going to happen. The ones who are left are dealing with an immense sunk cost fallacy, convinced that either the thousands of dollars or thousands of hours (or both) that they've wasted will guarantee a good product. The alternative is that they've wasted their lives and funds, and who would ever be stupid enough to do that?

Scruffpuff posted:

I get that much, I really do. But at some point, after a certain amount of time had passed, you came to realize that there was actually no game design here. No foundation. And it was far, far past the time for them to provide one, so your perspective changed.

I was trying to explain the Star Citizen situation to a non-gamer yesterday, and I found myself largely flummoxed. I had literally no reference point to start from - there was no way to describe the enormity of the problem. The closest I got was making an analogy of someone kickstarting a board game with no ruleset, no board, no goals, not even basic mechanics (will it be dice, cards, something else, etc.) but even without even the most fundamental framework, they start selling little gamepieces all mixed together (orcs, boats, planes, snakes, snakes on the planes, etc.) and promising that some day, they'll all get used in the game. That sort of got through until I explained that all of the pieces ship broken, and some cost over $1000, at which point I lost my audience.

Star Citizen's propensity for failure defies description.

MeLKoR posted:

For some reasons you assholes decided to post 20 pages during the night and once again I get ready to tackle this bitch.

MeLKoR posted:

For some reasons you assholes decided to post 20 pages during the night and once again I get ready to tackle this bitch.




In case I can't manage before we make it to page 3000 I just wanted to had my voice to the people that are calling for a new thread once we reach this stretch goal. Uncle Derek was the obvious OP during the previous phase for being public enough to become the visible face of the growing discontented. An added bonus was the fact that him being the OP threw the shitizens into a tizzy. However DS is unable to keep an updated OP or change the thread title and the SC thread badly needs an index, that alone would make a new thread desirable. But more than that, I think at this stage we can all agree that there was a definitive change after Star Marine, dissent has been constantly growing in the CIG forums, reddit has became the echo chamber for citizens and Star Citizen is now undeniably on hold.

tl;dr: poo poo has changed, these are new times, we need a new thread and volunteers to take up the burden

G0RF posted:

Now, I recognize this could be someone else's version of i_still_trust_cig so if I'm stepping on anybody's toes here, my apologies. But- while I don't believe the "all CIG sources are secretly sanctioned by management" bullcrap, I have at least entertained the possibility that CIG eventually wised up and started getting semi-Machiavellian in response. Sometimes the best way to combat leaks is with floods.

CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

aes 256

D_Smart posted:

...and so it was on 07/06/15 that I wrote my first Star Citizen blog, Interstellar Citizens.

Since that time, amid the dreams, the lies, and the deceit, coming from the company, a lot about this disastrous project has been written, spoken, and speculated. What most people don't know is just how bad things are or that they have unequivocally lost EVERY penny they put into this project.

And through all that, I stand firm on the opinion I made back in July 2015 that "Star Citizen, as has been pitched, will never get made. Ever.".

Now, in year five and over $111M, it exists as nothing more than a glorified tech demo. It's not a pre-alpha. It's not alpha. It's not a beta. It's not a game. It's none of those things. It's a glorified CryEngine mod.

The protracted false advertising of a product in order to make money from hapless gamers, is tantamount to consumer fraud. Look it up.

Events set in motion about two weeks ago, but which have been brewing since last year, have now sealed the fate of this project. It is unrecoverable. It is unavoidable. It is an E.L.E. And it is about time we as gamers, knew the truth.

I have always stated that there is absolutely NO version of this, where they get away with this. Yet people think that these things just get resolved over night. It takes time to get to the bottom; then you have to sort through the chum. It's a process.

And I have a response to that in this encrypted code that's been working it's way through these past few days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et7hT885kWU

Sunswipe posted:

Everyone who hasn't/can't be bothered/doesn't care about cracking the de Smarti code should start guessing at what it contains. My first guess is that Roberts is about to be arrested for bumming endangered species.

Toops posted:

Look I don't mean to be a fuddy duddy but gently caress me this thread is annoying now.