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notoriousman posted:lol, this isn't the stock market buddy A few thousand sprinkled over the years. People keep asking, and I don't want to talk about it. There's a remote chance it'll come back and make my refund more difficult.
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Ravachol posted:Dreams die hard. Space opera based on Heart of Darkness staring Gary Oldman is pretty much all I want from a game. The "attack a better real game that's actually been released" gambit.
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Scruffpuff posted:Are people reading the same post I am? The only 2 blatantly inaccurate parts are SQ42 being fun and Chris being a "wealthy guy." The rest is pretty negative. probably "I talked to CIG guys and it's totally a great place to work, Chris works hard..." etc.
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Ravachol posted:A few thousand sprinkled over the years. People keep asking, and I don't want to talk about it. There's a remote chance it'll come back and make my refund more difficult. I don't think there's a remote chance your money will come back unless you charge back.
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SerCypher posted:You can always buy later it if it comes out. Had to quote you cos I love your AV 
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Justin Tyme posted:why can't the parts just be heat treated to recrystallize the grains? That is essentially how they strengthen and remove direction dependence. They heat the parts up under very high pressure, and it fills some voids. Right now the issue is determining how strong a part is, or make lifetime estimates. The micro-structure is heavily dependent on the cooling rate which is determined by the geometry and location on a part (ie the first passes will cool faster than the last). They also don't really know exactly how different cooling rates affect things. This makes creating samples difficult because the stress/strain data doesn't really translate.
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Rhubarb94 posted:The "disposable income" gambit. "I didn't want/need that money anyway."
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Jason Sextro posted:probably "I talked to CIG guys and it's totally a great place to work, Chris works hard..." etc. They said the people are great, not that it's a great place to work. If it was a great place to work they wouldn't have such attrition problems.
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I'm reading Cobbler's latest bird thread and dying https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/325209/birds-why-waiting-is-good/p1
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Ravachol posted:I dont think I'm Sandi, since last I checked I'm a mammal not a reptile. Join us in the race to closing the thread and you can be whoever you want friend.
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I got to hand it to Derek, even though I was too  to try to crack the code, I was convinced it was something big.And I don't know about the rest of you, but I think the reaction has been special. Truly, there is no distinction between the best and worst of SA.
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Rhubarb94 posted:The "attack a better real game that's actually been released" gambit. He didn't attack it. He described it truthfully. It's soul crushing game where you almost never run into people. But who am I to say anything. I spent 2 hours attempting to learn how the take off and land without using the tutorial ND said gently caress It and haven't played since.
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Jason Sextro posted:probably "I talked to CIG guys and it's totally a great place to work, Chris works hard..." etc. Actually I don't doubt that Chris works his rear end off. I've worked with complete loving incompetent tools before, and a LOT of them have no idea they're incompetent, and they work 80+ hour workweeks and ruin everything they lay their hands on. Chris eats, sleeps, and shits the belief that he is a director, and I'm sure he has his hands in something nearly 24/7. All of it ruined. Not sure about Sandi being "nice" though. Best I'd give her is "superficially polite when forced".
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Gravity_Storm posted:So the whole ELE thing was bullshit then? The ELE is real and incoming. The code had nothing to do with it, but was a fun aside from Beer.
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Ravachol posted:I dont think I'm Sandi, since last I checked I'm a mammal not a reptile. Wrong way of thinking, friend, you haven't lost anything yet- CIG has just failed to deliver a product within their specified timeframe and they are more than capable of giving your money back. And if they refuse to refund your money, issue a chargeback based on non-delivery of goods or services. Most major cards by this point have a note on CIG to fast-track all claims. Don't just write off your money, it's your money and it's sitting there waiting for you to get it back. Don't let them run away with it and squander it.
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Gravity_Storm posted:So the whole ELE thing was bullshit then? No my friend, it's been all around you this whole time!
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Duckaerobics posted:In honor of I'm assuming this is regarding metal laser sintering AM. I am curious as to what post-print processes are available for smoothing surfaces to fine tolerances (we are examining possiblity of 3d-printed telescope optics, which have sub-micron tolerances). Also it looks like the SuperDraco rocket engine from SpaceX is fully 3d-printed using metal laser sintering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperDraco. How can that be 
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grimcreaper posted:He didn't attack it. He described it truthfully. It's soul crushing game where you almost never run into people. Well done for giving your money to a competent developer.
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Scruffpuff posted:Actually I don't doubt that Chris works his rear end off. I've worked with complete loving incompetent tools before, and a LOT of them have no idea they're incompetent, and they work 80+ hour workweeks and ruin everything they lay their hands on. Chris eats, sleeps, and shits the belief that he is a director, and I'm sure he has his hands in something nearly 24/7. All of it ruined. So I have to ask, being that I'm from a northern hinterland - is that an American thing, that it's better to put long hours in doing incompetent work than to use your time better? I've been hearing a lot of people complain about that attitude but I have no idea if it's a cultural thing or not. I can't imagine it only happens in America, of course.
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Isn't it time for this week's "Crobbers says yes 10 times but takes 10,000 words to do it"?
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It would be pretty funny if both EightAce and Derek are right about the finances. Meaning, there is a good amount of cash left ("good amount" open to interpretation), but they can't use it because their refund denials sparked an investigation which will result in them being forced to offer refunds to anyone who wants them. Meaning an unknown amount of that cash is spoken for, so even they don't know how much they'll really have left afterwards.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6g-ECx-7xwquote:Chairman of Cloud Imperium Games Chris Roberts answers 10 questions from our development subscribers.
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Jason Sextro posted:I hope whatever the ELE is, it somehow involves both the Star Citizen Saudi horse and the Uppsala mafia. Swedish mafia kills horse to get insurance money, sells meat to Ikea for use in meatballs.
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Scruffpuff posted:I like to imagine Chris attempting to woo investors, thinking his usual tricks and coding smoke and mirrors is going to go over the heads of professional game publishing companies, like it does with the cultists. There's such a stench around this product that it's no surprise the deals fell through. I guess Sandi's not marketing it to them properly. I also like to imagine that now he's trying to get some quick investment liquidity from some of the A-List actors he's been working with. Chris: "No, listen Gary, seriously, this is a sure thing. Don't you want your face in this product to be everywhere?" Gary: "It already is, Chris. Now gently caress off." Considering Gary is reportedly righteously pissed at him, I don't think he's going to give him any money. Seriously, all the Star Citizen toxicity, coupled with the fact that ALL of this bullshit is online for EVERYONE to see, is never - ever - going to result in an ANY investor putting money into this now. Like ever. The guys willing to shell out the kind of money they need to finish (LOL!) this project, do painstaking due diligence. Then again, if he goes the route of "alternate" (wink-wink) funding, all bets are off. But he probably won't, since he'd rather not mess with that sort of thing knowing that he's never going to be able to deliver. Seriously, they're hosed.
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Ravachol posted:Dreams die hard. Space opera based on Heart of Darkness staring Gary Oldman is pretty much all I want from a game. Like specifically  or would a similarly ranked actor have been sufficient?How much?
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Jason Sextro posted:So I have to ask, being that I'm from a northern hinterland - is that an American thing, that it's better to put long hours in doing incompetent work than to use your time better? I've been hearing a lot of people complain about that attitude but I have no idea if it's a cultural thing or not. I can't imagine it only happens in America, of course. It's definitely ingrained in some parts of the United States that extremely hard work = success. You still have people here who brag about how many hours they put in, while everyone knows they produce nothing. Other people put in 20 hours and do 5 times the work, and they get poo poo on. In some parts of the tech sector, that attitude is changing, but it's slow to catch on. U.S. culture leans towards bluster and chest-beating, not results, but we have our share of highly skilled workers like anywhere else, and thankfully those are the people running things behind the scenes. Usually thanklessly, but it keeps the lights on.
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Duckaerobics posted:In honor of Spudalicious posted:I'm assuming this is regarding metal laser sintering AM. I am curious as to what post-print processes are available for smoothing surfaces to fine tolerances (we are examining possiblity of 3d-printed telescope optics, which have sub-micron tolerances). Also it looks like the SuperDraco rocket engine from SpaceX is fully 3d-printed using metal laser sintering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperDraco. How can that be There's sintering and there's sintering. Electron Beam Melting produces parts of quite high tensile strengths. Unfortunately, it's fussy, expensive, and probably doesn't scale that well. There's also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9IdZ2pI5dA Fun starts at 1:00. Give it time, it'll blow your mind.
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CashEnsign posted:Honestly I enjoy the tech demo that is Star Citizen more than Elite. I log into PU and immediately grab a ship, fly to the asteroid belt or pork K and go shoot poo poo. I log into Spawn in the newbie system, jump next door to Eravate, start the pee v pee. It's that simple.
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kikkelivelho posted:Is Elite D planning to have FPS segments later on? No FPS, as far as I have seen, but perhaps some tentative walking around in ships.
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Rhubarb94 posted:Well done for giving your money to a competent developer. Im glad to support the game. While its not my type right now, its looking to continue expanding for a while so it might be a worthwhile purchase eventually.
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kikkelivelho posted:Is Elite D planning to have FPS segments later on? They've done some work on an avatar creator already. We'll be seeing some early examples of it in action next update, where it'll be used to generate persistent NPCs. edit: an early look at it here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Em7TLwFifE&t=951s In the future, everyone is bald (or at the time of the video, they hadn't got the hair right yet.) tooterfish fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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kikkelivelho posted:Is Elite D planning to have FPS segments later on? Yes, some speculation would be next years season pass, but its unknown when.
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I enjoyed the code hunt, although it was frustrating for the first part where I didn't know about the Babel website and was trying Bible Codes.  I'm mainly waiting in the thread to see when Star Citizen will fall apart, because it's going to make waves.
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tooterfish posted:Yes. No idea on the timescale, but it's always been part of the plan. Frontier obviously knows nothing about game development. They're supposed to say "yes," show a fake trailer, tell people full FPS is days, not weeks, away, then wait a year and tell everything that they're annoyed by all the questions because you're seeing the inside of your cockpit from a first-person perspective, and you can shoot, so FPS is already in the game.
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