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Stan Lee teaches all the courses at Marvel Law School so keep some perspective.
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That's it, zoux. You're in contempt! Can we get a prison guard to take him away?
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Apr 4, 2016 23:57
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zoux posted:Stan Lee teaches all the courses at Marvel Law School so keep some perspective. Yeah I wonder if the writers actually just don't know poo poo about law or are being somehow crazy accurate to how it's represented in Marvel, maybe? I am pretty sure actual comic book issues are considered admissible evidence in She Hulk's court cases.
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Apr 5, 2016 00:51
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I think it's safe to say the writers are making everything law-related up out of half remembered episodes of Matlock.
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Apr 5, 2016 00:53
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Light Gun Man posted:Yeah I wonder if the writers actually just don't know poo poo about law or are being somehow crazy accurate to how it's represented in Marvel, maybe? I am pretty sure actual comic book issues are considered admissible evidence in She Hulk's court cases. Marvel actually has a writer right now, in fact the current DD writer, who is a practicing NY attorney. He also did a pretty good She Hulk run that is almost all courtroom/legal stuff.
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Apr 5, 2016 00:56
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Light Gun Man posted:Yeah I wonder if the writers actually just don't know poo poo about law or are being somehow crazy accurate to how it's represented in Marvel, maybe? I am pretty sure actual comic book issues are considered admissible evidence in She Hulk's court cases. I think that was Dan Slott, and it was also a much more comedic run. They used to keep long boxes full of evidence just in case. They had speedster interns who had no combat as a clause in their contracts because they also bled out super fast. In one of the older Shulk comics I'm pretty sure she won a case in a court of higher beings because the vital evidence was she had the biggest cleavage in the Marvel Universe. There were a lot of covers that played around with the fourth wall by having her, or the writer via speech bubble comment on her gratuitous nudity. She's just kind of a silly character in many ways, and I like her that way. It's the same reason I like Hercules - they're both characters writers feel they can goof around with and not treat as needing a super serious story. zoux posted:Marvel actually has a writer right now, in fact the current DD writer, who is a practicing NY attorney. He also did a pretty good She Hulk run that is almost all courtroom/legal stuff. Who's that out of interest. Sounds good. tsob fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Apr 5, 2016 01:02
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tsob posted:I think that was Dan Slott, and it was also a much more comedic run. They used to keep long boxes full of evidence just in case. They had speedster interns who had no combat as a clause in their contracts because they also bled out super fast. In one of the older Shulk comics I'm pretty sure she won a case in a court of higher beings because the vital evidence was she had the biggest cleavage in the Marvel Universe. There were a lot of covers that played around with the fourth wall by having her, or the writer via speech bubble comment on her gratuitous nudity. Yeah that sounds like a pretty fun read, I should check it out sometime.
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Apr 5, 2016 01:11
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tsob posted:I think that was Dan Slott, and it was also a much more comedic run. They used to keep long boxes full of evidence just in case. They had speedster interns who had no combat as a clause in their contracts because they also bled out super fast. In one of the older Shulk comics I'm pretty sure she won a case in a court of higher beings because the vital evidence was she had the biggest cleavage in the Marvel Universe. There were a lot of covers that played around with the fourth wall by having her, or the writer via speech bubble comment on her gratuitous nudity. Charles Soule. Pretty much all his books are killer.
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Apr 5, 2016 01:12
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Light Gun Man posted:Yeah that sounds like a pretty fun read, I should check it out sometime. I'm amalgamating several different runs there, but most of her stuff is good. Some of it is from the 90's from what I recall. Slott's run starts out great and then just gets kind of melodramatic and serious and ends poo poo. There's some alternate universe stuff invoked to explain her sleeping with The Juggernaut if I recall. I remember zoning out about there, despite buying and reading it for a while more. His run had great art at the start too if I recall, especially the covers. And that went to pot too. I think she became a bounty hunter or something in tandem with another female meta after that. I should catch up on her at some point
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Apr 5, 2016 01:20
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odiv posted:Nah, I'm pretty sure in the conversation the team had with Reyes before she got shot, she was asking them to turn in Castle and Foggy was like, "And violate privilege!?" She wanted them to violate privilege by giving her all the files they had on Frank, which actually would be a big no no without a subpoena. Which is going to be a tough sell even if their client is the Punisher. Turning in Frank wasn't part of that particular portion of the conversation. The Gotto stuff was about walking the tightrope of turning him over for witness protection while both getting a good deal and making sure he didn't just get hosed over by the DA simply arresting him without them being present. The DA went and hosed them and their client over anyway. odiv posted:That's it, zoux. You're in contempt! That was actually so very close to being accurate. Baliffs can work at either the jail or the court house and could conceivably be present as an escort for the inmate. Of course people on trial are held in jails while people convicted of multiple murders are held in prisons. Much closer than most of the Lawyer stuff.
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Apr 5, 2016 03:03
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That's it, Gyges, I'm gonna need your badge and your gun. (Now I have to rewatch the scene because I swear she wanted them to help catching him, but on reflection maybe it was by turning over the files and that's what he objected to.)
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Apr 5, 2016 03:11
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The most unrealistic thing about Daredevil was Matt's loving huge and gorgeous New York apartment and implying it was affordable by a produce-paid lawyer because it was next to a jumbotron and nobody was willing to deal with it. You can install black-out curtains or block out the window you know
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Apr 5, 2016 03:16
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2.06 Frank saying "Not Guilty" was scary as hell. He's so good at this Punisher stuff 
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Apr 5, 2016 04:11
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I want to read Punisher: Year One, is it on Marvel U?
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Apr 5, 2016 04:15
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2.07 literally the most dramatic court entrance I've ever seen
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Apr 5, 2016 04:25
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zoux posted:Charles Soule. Pretty much all his books are killer. Gonna section this recommendation. His She-Hulk run also features Patsy Walker (Tric from the JJ) if you're curious why people want her to get a series.
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Apr 5, 2016 07:11
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Blazing Ownager posted:I just realized that Daredevil is the ONLY character in the MCU with the anti-killing obsession where as non-cinematic DC won't shut up about it. Just off the top of my head, Storm has a pretty solid anti-killing ethos. Also Jubilee tends to go into a 16 page manifesto about what Wolverine taught her, "you shouldn't kill but sometimes you have to but don't take it lightly blah blah blah."
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Apr 5, 2016 19:47
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Spider Man has an extremely strong no kill rule. In fact most of them do, whenever people are actually killing villains it's a big deal (Punisher excluded)
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Apr 5, 2016 19:50
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HIJK posted:I want to read Punisher: Year One, is it on Marvel U? If you can't find it, don't sweat it too much. It's only decent. E: zoux do you know how long ago that she hulk run came out?
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Apr 5, 2016 20:09
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2-3 years ago-ish, the whole thing is on MU.
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Apr 5, 2016 20:11
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K thanks
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Apr 5, 2016 20:12
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3 DONG HORSE posted:2.06 Picking John Bernthal for the role was a good casting move
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Apr 5, 2016 20:12
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So I just finished both seasons, and... overall, it's a great show with awesome acting and incredible attention to detail. But, in the last half of this season, the writing slid down the toilet.
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Apr 5, 2016 20:14
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Gynovore posted:Just off the top of my head, Storm has a pretty solid anti-killing ethos. Also Jubilee tends to go into a 16 page manifesto about what Wolverine taught her, "you shouldn't kill but sometimes you have to but don't take it lightly blah blah blah." They're in the Fox comic universe I'd imagine, and not counted as part of the Marvel one.
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Apr 5, 2016 20:20
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Calaveron posted:The most unrealistic thing about Daredevil was Matt's loving huge and gorgeous New York apartment and implying it was affordable by a produce-paid lawyer because it was next to a jumbotron and nobody was willing to deal with it. I usually let that go, because every TV show and movie in NYC pretty much does the same.
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Apr 5, 2016 20:26
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Edmund Lava posted:Gonna section this recommendation. His She-Hulk run also features Patsy Walker (Tric from the JJ) if you're curious why people want her to get a series. Soule's She-Hulk is great, but Pulido's artwork might not be to everyone's taste.
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Apr 5, 2016 20:31
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howe_sam posted:Soule's She-Hulk is great, but Pulido's artwork might not be to everyone's taste. Those Wada covers tho 
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Apr 5, 2016 20:32
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howe_sam posted:Soule's She-Hulk is great, but Pulido's artwork might not be to everyone's taste. Seconding this. Writing good, artwork bad.
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Apr 5, 2016 20:32
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Colonial Air Force posted:I usually let that go, because every TV show and movie in NYC pretty much does the same. Likewise but they made a point to rationalize its affordability when it really wouldn't actually be affordable by any stretch of the imagination
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Apr 5, 2016 20:44
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Calaveron posted:Likewise but they made a point to rationalize its affordability when it really wouldn't actually be affordable by any stretch of the imagination Maybe this version of NYC has higher supply/lower demand because the aliens blew up so many buildings.
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Apr 5, 2016 20:50
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What's weird is in the comics Matt and Foggy are usually written as really successful lawyers that aren't struggling for cash, and Matt has like a whole townhouse with his own ninja workout gym. It sort of feels like for TV they decided to add this pro-bono-no-money aspect, but didn't think it through that it would mean Matt should have 3 roommates and be commuting from New Jersey. Or I guess we can just roll with the "aliens made it the 80s again" conceit. That most realistic superhero NYC apartment is still the one in Spider-Man 2.
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Apr 5, 2016 21:07
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computer parts posted:Maybe this version of NYC has higher supply/lower demand because the aliens blew up so many buildings. Actually the thought of running into superheroes and villains increases demand.
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Apr 5, 2016 21:10
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Omnomnomnivore posted:
They had a nice throw-away line from the editor when he mentioned the "Incident" wiping all their servers. I thought that was a nice touch to explain why we see so much older tech and analog stuff lying around.
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Apr 5, 2016 21:22
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computer parts posted:Maybe this version of NYC has higher supply/lower demand because the aliens blew up so many buildings. And because of the insane crime rate and the occasional mind-controlling psycho.
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Apr 5, 2016 21:45
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Gynovore posted:So I just finished both seasons, and... overall, it's a great show with awesome acting and incredible attention to detail. But, in the last half of this season, the writing slid down the toilet.
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Apr 5, 2016 22:03
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Edmund Lava posted:Gonna section this recommendation. His She-Hulk run also features Patsy Walker (Tric from the JJ) if you're curious why people want her to get a series. I just read the wiki page for this. He seriously retconned everybody knowing Daredevil's identity? Lame.
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Apr 5, 2016 22:03
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howe_sam posted:Soule's She-Hulk is great, but Pulido's artwork might not be to everyone's taste. How can anyone hate this. It reminds me of Chris Ware. 
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Apr 5, 2016 22:08
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Can we get a title change so people don't think we still need spoilers? We'll never have avocados at law now.
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Apr 5, 2016 22:43
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Matt Murdock is Daredevil
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site posted:Matt Murdock is Daredevil Bullshit. It's clearly Foggy. Guy's more affable, likeable and heroic than some guy who just goes running around banging chicks pretending to be blind I guess one thing I didn't like is that Foggy and Karen had way more chemistry than Matt and Karen. That romance felt very shoehorned in season 2.
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