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cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Etalommi posted:

He had Chief scratch him last episode, when Blaine got all The Nameless One.


Snak posted:

Yeah, he actually wasn't until last week's episode, when he intentionally became one as part of a power-play to exploited Blaine's amnesia and take over his business.

Thanks. Must have missed that.

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Tumblr of scotch
Mar 13, 2006

Please, don't be my neighbor.
My predictions for the season finale is that at least one of these will happen:

• Major goes full-on zombie and wrecks face getting out of Max Rager HQ and away from the FBI, possibly (but I'm going to say probably not) zombifying Bozzio in the process but definitely letting the cat out of the bag in regard to zombies assuming there are any non-zombie survivors.
• Gilda somehow gets free and kills Uncle Jack Vaughn du Clark.
• Blaine regains enough of his memory to be more fully disgusted by the things he did and tries to find some way to atone.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Air is lava! posted:

Thanks. Must have missed that.

It was actually really easy to miss, because no one states what's happening. Blaine is sitting in the basement in the background being confused, and in the foreground, Don E says something to Chief like "I'm sure about this, it's my time to shine" and then it shows Chief scratch his arm. So like if you looked away from the screen for 2 seconds you could completely miss it.

But holy poo poo, the scene where Blaine comes down and notices that Don is eating a brain, while Chief is slicing up another one, and is just like "...what is it you guys do down here?" is loving gold.

edit: ^ I don't need to spoiler tag finale predictions, do I?

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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OK, that episode went at 100km/h. Can't wait to next week. Poor major...

Axel Serenity
Sep 27, 2002
Wait, next week is the finale already? Fuuuuck this season seemed to short. This ep was over before I felt like it even started :(

FoxTerrier
Feb 15, 2012

Perfectly logical poster who uses the tools available to him to come to solid conclusions

Axel Serenity posted:

Wait, next week is the finale already? Fuuuuck this season seemed to short. This ep was over before I felt like it even started :(

On the plus side, iirc they said it'd be a two hour finale!

Woden
May 6, 2006

Flagrant Abuse posted:

My predictions for the season finale is that at least one of these will happen:

• Major goes full-on zombie and wrecks face getting out of Max Rager HQ and away from the FBI, possibly (but I'm going to say probably not) zombifying Bozzio in the process but definitely letting the cat out of the bag in regard to zombies assuming there are any non-zombie survivors.
• Gilda somehow gets free and kills Uncle Jack Vaughn du Clark.
• Blaine regains enough of his memory to be more fully disgusted by the things he did and tries to find some way to atone.


Major is going to prison, every season ender needs to end with him locked up tortured for trying to save Liv and other people.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Major deserves this poo poo. Season 2 Major is a loving idiot.

I was kind of hoping Ravi would immediately recognize what bullshit it is to keep Liv in the dark for "her own protection". She just walked into the office of a crime boss and beat the poo poo out of some guy, because she's looking for her boyfriend. Who Major kidnapped.

FoxTerrier
Feb 15, 2012

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Is anyone else confused about what's up with Blaine? I think the show was suggesting that he had amnesia going back to when he became a zombie, but at that point in his life he was already a drug dealing scum-bag working for Mr. Boss (who he now doesn't know).

I had thought earlier that he had taken on the brain of the generic nice-guy he ate right before this, but, that doesn't seem quite right either.

Help?

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

FoxTerrier posted:



Is anyone else confused about what's up with Blaine? I think the show was suggesting that he had amnesia going back to when he became a zombie, but at that point in his life he was already a drug dealing scum-bag working for Mr. Boss (who he now doesn't know).

I had thought earlier that he had taken on the brain of the generic nice-guy he ate right before this, but, that doesn't seem quite right either.

Help?

Well, Ravi said that he can't remember anything from before he took the cure. It seems like he only has general memory, like how to do things, how to run a funeral home. he probably knows how to be a drug dealer to, but he doesn't realize it, because he's not doing that.

Edit: I also really want to believe that Blaine is faking it. It's actually a great turn for his character if he's not, but it would be the most him thing to just be sticking to faking it until everyone finally believes him. Then he gets his clean slate. Don E runs the Utopium business so he doesn't have to. Everyone keeps him around for science and pity.

Snak fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Apr 6, 2016

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Snak posted:

she's looking for her boyfriend. Who Major kidnapped.
To be fair to the guys here, neither one of them knows that part. Major wasn't introduced to whatshisname and Ravi doesn't know he's one of Majors victims.

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Apr 6, 2016

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Air is lava! posted:

To be fair to the guys here, neither one of them knows that part.

yeah, but they would if they would stop lying to each-other under the pretext of keeping each-other safe. Like, Ravi has been working his rear end off trying to develop a cure, while Major practically has access to Max Rager's lab. Major is ruining Peyton's Case and Liv is off chasing the wrong bad guys. All because they decided it would be better to lie to each other.

Edit: Also, Ravi should. He should have gone through that entire loving book.

Woden
May 6, 2006

Snak posted:

yeah, but they would if they would stop lying to each-other under the pretext of keeping each-other safe. Like, Ravi has been working his rear end off trying to develop a cure, while Major practically has access to Max Rager's lab. Major is ruining Peyton's Case and Liv is off chasing the wrong bad guys. All because they decided it would be better to lie to each other.

Edit: Also, Ravi should. He should have gone through that entire loving book.

If they weren't lying to each other we wouldn't have the drama. Liv not lying to Major would have killed his arc and most of season one, her not lying to Peyton would kill seasons twos Peyton arc as well as Blaines, etc.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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FoxTerrier posted:



Is anyone else confused about what's up with Blaine? I think the show was suggesting that he had amnesia going back to when he became a zombie, but at that point in his life he was already a drug dealing scum-bag working for Mr. Boss (who he now doesn't know).

I had thought earlier that he had taken on the brain of the generic nice-guy he ate right before this, but, that doesn't seem quite right either.

Help?

About 4 minutes in to the latest episode Ravi is explaining the cure to zombie Major, and says Blain can't remember anything since taking the cure. He doesn't remember being a drug dealer, or losing his mother, having a distant father and a cruel nanny, or anything at all before a couple weeks ago.

As far as Ravi can tell, Blain has lost 100% of his episodic memory. All the stories of his life are gone.

Blain still has all or most of his procedural memory. He still knows how to speak english, dress himself, use a fork, drive a car, etc.

He also has semantic memory. If you asked him to he could probably recite the pledge of allegiance and list the ways various drugs get you hosed up. He knows information like you should see a doctor in a hospital, not in a morgue. Or that it is odd for a funeral home to have an impromptu blues concert and brain slicing operation in the basement.

For now his amnesia has him off balance though, so he's going along with the only people he 'knows' when they tell him this is the way things are supposed to be. As he becomes more comfortable he should start to assert himself (once he rebuilds a self). His personality should begin to re-assert itself, but then we get into the old nature vs. nurture debate: if Blaine doesn't remember the events that shaped his personality, will he develop the same personality? He may be rebellious by nature, but without his dad's expectations to rebel against, what will he rebel against? Who will Blaine be?

FoxTerrier
Feb 15, 2012

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Angela Christine posted:

About 4 minutes in to the latest episode Ravi is explaining the cure to zombie Major, and says Blain can't remember anything since taking the cure. He doesn't remember being a drug dealer, or losing his mother, having a distant father and a cruel nanny, or anything at all before a couple weeks ago.

As far as Ravi can tell, Blain has lost 100% of his episodic memory. All the stories of his life are gone.

Blain still has all or most of his procedural memory. He still knows how to speak english, dress himself, use a fork, drive a car, etc.

He also has semantic memory. If you asked him to he could probably recite the pledge of allegiance and list the ways various drugs get you hosed up. He knows information like you should see a doctor in a hospital, not in a morgue. Or that it is odd for a funeral home to have an impromptu blues concert and brain slicing operation in the basement.

For now his amnesia has him off balance though, so he's going along with the only people he 'knows' when they tell him this is the way things are supposed to be. As he becomes more comfortable he should start to assert himself (once he rebuilds a self). His personality should begin to re-assert itself, but then we get into the old nature vs. nurture debate: if Blaine doesn't remember the events that shaped his personality, will he develop the same personality? He may be rebellious by nature, but without his dad's expectations to rebel against, what will he rebel against? Who will Blaine be?

Thank you.

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Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

Air is lava! posted:

To be fair to the guys here, neither one of them knows that part. Major wasn't introduced to whatshisname and Ravi doesn't know he's one of Majors victims.

The way Ravi said that line "I have a really strong hunch he'll just turn up again" (or something like that) suggests that he does know, either because he saw it in the book or because he put it together after being told the "chaos killer" was specifically going after zombies.

drainpipe
May 17, 2004

AAHHHHHHH!!!!
Goddamn, what an episode. I am super hyped for next week.

Pan Dulce
Jan 4, 2011

Beautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure



drat, this show says, "Want to watch Major hit rock bottom? Well, get ready, we're defining what rock bottom is by digging a ditch and pushing him down it."

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Woden posted:

If they weren't lying to each other we wouldn't have the drama. Liv not lying to Major would have killed his arc and most of season one, her not lying to Peyton would kill seasons twos Peyton arc as well as Blaines, etc.

This is one of the few examples of this actually being done well though. Everyone's motives for keeping other people in the dark make sense for them. None of them are purely for the sake of drama. Like, compare this to Arrow to see the polar opposites of how to use this trope. Liv was hiding it from Major because she didn't know what was going on and was scared and then it spiralled out of control. Major was keeping everyone in the dark because he knew what he was doing was wrong.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, Major and Liv lying to each other makes sense. Ravi deciding to lie to Liv is bullshit and I hope he realizes it pretty quick.

drainpipe
May 17, 2004

AAHHHHHHH!!!!
It looks like Ravi was planning to tell Liv about Major until she mentioned that she roughed up one of Mr. Boss's guys trying to track down info on Drake.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

drainpipe posted:

It looks like Ravi was planning to tell Liv about Major until she mentioned that she roughed up one of Mr. Boss's guys trying to track down info on Drake.

Which he should take as a sign the Liv is going to take risks no matter what, and keeping her in the dark will only put her in more danger.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I keep forgetting to ask, but what do yall think of the new convention this season of doing a foodie style prep montage for every brain dish?

IMO I'm not sure I've seen something as appetizing and disgusting at the same time.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Snak posted:

Which he should take as a sign the Liv is going to take risks no matter what, and keeping her in the dark will only put her in more danger.

I sympathize with Ravi, given that he wanted to say something kinda delicate and then Liv came storming in talking about how she beat up a mafia goon with her zombie superpowers.

Still, open communication is generally the best possible solution for all things in life, but as others have already said, the show is good because its characters keep secrets for reasons that seem really good to them (and usually the audience) at the time.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, I should be clear that I'm mad more at the characters than the writers.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


zoux posted:

I keep forgetting to ask, but what do yall think of the new convention this season of doing a foodie style prep montage for every brain dish?

IMO I'm not sure I've seen something as appetizing and disgusting at the same time.
I can't say that any of them have made any particular impression on me. But then again, I do regularly browse the anti-food porn thread.

FoxTerrier
Feb 15, 2012

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zoux posted:

I keep forgetting to ask, but what do yall think of the new convention this season of doing a foodie style prep montage for every brain dish?

IMO I'm not sure I've seen something as appetizing and disgusting at the same time.

For some reason I find it kind of annoying. I dunno why, maybe I'm just miffed that's three seconds of screen time Blaine isn't poo poo talking. :shrug:

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
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Grimey Drawer
I totally dig it. I guess I didn't realize they didn't do that at all in the first season.

Picklepuss
Jul 12, 2002

zoux posted:

I keep forgetting to ask, but what do yall think of the new convention this season of doing a foodie style prep montage for every brain dish?
There seems to be a good reason for that:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2016/04/06/comic-book-easter-eggs-izombie-brain-recipe-puns/

quote:

In “”Even Cowgirls Get the Black and Blues,” Liv eats the brains of a country singer/songwriter. She prepares them by country pan frying them…

In “Max Wager,” Liv eats the brain of a compulsive gambler. She prepares them as part of clams casino…

In “Hurt Stalker,” Liv eats the brain of a stalker. She prepares them as part of a celery snack (a STALK of celery)…

In “Cape Town”, Liv eats the brain of a costume vigilante. She prepares them as part of a hero sandwich…

In “Method Head,” Liv eats the brain of a TV actor. She prepares them (with hot sauce, of course, as zombies LOVE hot sauce, since their taste buds are so fried that hot sauce is one of the few things they can still really taste) as part of a TV dinner…

In “The Whopper,” Liv eats the brains of a guy who constantly told lies, or “whoppers.” She prepares them in a cheeseburger…

In “Pour Some Sugar, Zombie,” Liv eats the brain of a stripper. She prepares them in a club sandwich…

In the most recent episode, “Reflections of the Way Liv Used to Be,” Liv eats the brain of an overachiever. She prepares them in a noodle dish that led to probably my favorite pun of the season so far. Liv’s co-worker and friend, Ravi, walks by and says, “That looks like something I once ate in Taiwan. In the capital city,” to which Liv responds, “Taipei.”

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
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Grimey Drawer
Oh my god

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!
That's incredible.

I'm disappointed in myself for not getting the Taipei pun until just now.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
I don't think I get it. Is it "type a"? Can she taste the blood-type of her food like some kind of mosquito?

EDIT: VVV I'm not familiar with that expression. Thanks.

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Apr 7, 2016

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
Type A as in the personality of the girl she ate.

FoxTerrier
Feb 15, 2012

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Edit: I was going to post a complaint about ads that eat up the screen during the show, but I decided to post more gifs instead. Gifs are more fun than kvetching.
















FoxTerrier fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Apr 7, 2016

zoux
Apr 28, 2006


Well I completely missed all that.

Pan Dulce
Jan 4, 2011

Beautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure



Holy poo poo, I missed the references too! That's amazing. I just thought they were pulling a Pushing Daisies, making food out of dead things look appetizing.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Since Hannibal is done, I want them to do an episode where Mads Mikkelsen is a guest star and he and Liv cook together.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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He can show her how delicious all the other parts of the body can be! No more being limited to the brains!

jscolon2.0
Jul 9, 2001

With great payroll, comes great disappointment.

zoux posted:

I keep forgetting to ask, but what do yall think of the new convention this season of doing a foodie style prep montage for every brain dish?

IMO I'm not sure I've seen something as appetizing and disgusting at the same time.

I assume you haven't seen Hannibal then.

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TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
So I finally caught up with this show this past week. I had watched season 1 on Netflix about a month ago, but didn't get around to watching season 2 until this past week. I am glad that I ended up watching it because it amuses me.

Watching Liv take on the various traits of people is pretty fun to watch. Ravi is amazingly amusing with his puns and antics, like naming the dog Minor. I really like the chemistry between Dale and Babineaux.

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