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Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Elliotw2 posted:

It might not be relevant but if you think that Microsoft ever removes things then I have some news for you.

Yeah, I'm re-reading "on the edge", and microsoft have always been bad at being 'editorial' with their code.
"it works" mostlyis as good as it gets it seems.

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klugman
Jan 28, 2009

Athenry posted:

To be fair; if you ever drop your phone, yelling "MEIN HANDY" does seem pretty appropriate.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=39EPz2JsbUk

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Related to the CableCARD in America is the Common Interface, or CI card, which had the same PCMCIA form factor. Most TVs come with slots but I don't know anybody who's used the CI modules in the past ten years.



It was basically a descrambler for "premium" digital terrestrial TV. They launched with nearly 20 channels but, over the space of five years, they were eventually only used for sports channels. The use of CI was eventually phased out for those channels in 2013, when BT started offering the sports channels through their IPTV service only.

Then again, maybe they actually got some use over on the continent.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

TinTower posted:

Related to the CableCARD in America is the Common Interface, or CI card, which had the same PCMCIA form factor. Most TVs come with slots but I don't know anybody who's used the CI modules in the past ten years.



It was basically a descrambler for "premium" digital terrestrial TV. They launched with nearly 20 channels but, over the space of five years, they were eventually only used for sports channels. The use of CI was eventually phased out for those channels in 2013, when BT started offering the sports channels through their IPTV service only.

Then again, maybe they actually got some use over on the continent.


We are getting the followup shoved down our throat with CI+. Private channels decided upscaled content and HD commercials are worth 5€ extra per month.

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

TinTower posted:

Related to the CableCARD in America is the Common Interface, or CI card, which had the same PCMCIA form factor. Most TVs come with slots but I don't know anybody who's used the CI modules in the past ten years.



It was basically a descrambler for "premium" digital terrestrial TV. They launched with nearly 20 channels but, over the space of five years, they were eventually only used for sports channels. The use of CI was eventually phased out for those channels in 2013, when BT started offering the sports channels through their IPTV service only.

Then again, maybe they actually got some use over on the continent.
In Norway these are still used for digital terrestrial TV (RiksTV) if you're a pleb without cable or satellite (like me). You need a subscription to decode anything that's not an NRK radio or TV channel, which are free since it's a public state-owned network paid for by us via the TV license, like your BBC. Any TV with a built-in DVB tuner has one, like my 2009 46" Samsung LCD (speaking of obsolete: Non-LED backlight).

Our RiksTV has a good variety of channels, though. Not all sports, thankfully :)

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!

JazzmasterCurious posted:

In Norway these are still used for digital terrestrial TV (RiksTV) if you're a pleb without cable or satellite (like me). You need a subscription to decode anything that's not an NRK radio or TV channel, which are free since it's a public state-owned network paid for by us via the TV license, like your BBC. Any TV with a built-in DVB tuner has one, like my 2009 46" Samsung LCD (speaking of obsolete: Non-LED backlight).

Our RiksTV has a good variety of channels, though. Not all sports, thankfully :)

Yeah they're still used in Denmark as well. If you don't want to subscribe to the big cable package just to get a couple of your favorite channels, you can mix your own and get a CI module coded for you. I'm so happy that the apartment complex I live in shove the big package down your throat, with no option to opt out of it. I sure need those 50 German, Swedish, Norwegian(sorry :v:), Turkish etc. channels.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Smoke posted:

Belgium has a ton of vending machines like this for bread, and recently people have been trying to find new possibilities. There's machines for potatoes, strawberries, flowers, chocolate, and near where I live I've seen one for rotisserie chicken(for your late night chicken cravings) Usually a bit more expensive than store-bought though.

There are a number of these right down the street where I live. The local farmers put some of their produce in there. Comes in handy sometimes, but you're right that you won't be saving money.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


On something else that someone here might be able to help with. I had an external HDD that I pulled from it's case and installed into a spare tower. It was NTFS but when in my tower it asked to be formatted. even if I put it back into its case (thinking there was something funky with the USB3.0 to SATA controller).

Is there a program or bootdisk that I can use that recover the partition and folder structure? I have all the data off it using one of the Easeus applications, but all files are not in their original directory locations which is a bastard.

I have the data restored so not really worried about drastic 1 go only tasks.

I've googled around quite a bit, but nothing really states that it will recover the partition table etc.

ThanatosOfOne
Mar 24, 2009

Humphreys posted:

On something else that someone here might be able to help with. I had an external HDD that I pulled from it's case and installed into a spare tower. It was NTFS but when in my tower it asked to be formatted. even if I put it back into its case (thinking there was something funky with the USB3.0 to SATA controller).

Is there a program or bootdisk that I can use that recover the partition and folder structure? I have all the data off it using one of the Easeus applications, but all files are not in their original directory locations which is a bastard.

I have the data restored so not really worried about drastic 1 go only tasks.

I've googled around quite a bit, but nothing really states that it will recover the partition table etc.

Ive sucessfully used this before after getting a DD image of the drive as a last ditch effort sort of thing when I used to have rootkits take out the mbr and fat on customers drives.

http://www.partitionwizard.com/help/partition-recovery-wizard.html

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Humphreys posted:

On something else that someone here might be able to help with. I had an external HDD that I pulled from it's case and installed into a spare tower. It was NTFS but when in my tower it asked to be formatted. even if I put it back into its case (thinking there was something funky with the USB3.0 to SATA controller).

Is there a program or bootdisk that I can use that recover the partition and folder structure? I have all the data off it using one of the Easeus applications, but all files are not in their original directory locations which is a bastard.

I have the data restored so not really worried about drastic 1 go only tasks.

I've googled around quite a bit, but nothing really states that it will recover the partition table etc.

Try TestDisk. It's not super user-friendly but I've used it to recover corrupted FAT partitions before.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


ThanatosOfOne posted:

Ive sucessfully used this before after getting a DD image of the drive as a last ditch effort sort of thing when I used to have rootkits take out the mbr and fat on customers drives.

http://www.partitionwizard.com/help/partition-recovery-wizard.html

The website wouldn't load for me when I tried it (works now) - so I tried with Mr Radar's suggestion.

Mr.Radar posted:

Try TestDisk. It's not super user-friendly but I've used it to recover corrupted FAT partitions before.

I actually tried this first off before asking in the thread and no matter how many times I did the processes to get it to work, after rebooting it wouldn't come up.

However after your suggestion I gave it another shot and noticed somethign fucky when it said:

quote:

Warning: number of bytes per sector mismatches 4096 (NTFS) != 512 (HD)

I don't want to go messing around in Geometry to change it to 512, so I tried viewing files and pressing 'a' to select all folders in the root directory and copy them to another drive - works like magic!

Thankyou Mr.Radar.

EDIT: This was a 4TB external and from what I read, there are some out there with a 4096 and when putting internally Windows did its fuckery.

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 09:24 on Apr 5, 2016

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Humphreys posted:


EDIT: This was a 4TB external and from what I read, there are some out there with a 4096 and when putting internally Windows did its fuckery.

Just out of curiosity, how much data did you have on it? It's surprisingly common for unscrupulous sellers to disguise a cheaper low-capacity harddrive as a higher-capacity one, and some times that firmware fuckery works better than others.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Tunicate posted:

Just out of curiosity, how much data did you have on it? It's surprisingly common for unscrupulous sellers to disguise a cheaper low-capacity harddrive as a higher-capacity one, and some times that firmware fuckery works better than others.

Just over 3TB was actually on it. Most of my Lightroom RAW archives and various audio and video projects. The AVID MC files were scary. These were from an export of my work computer.

It definately wasn't a case of:



For those playing at home, I did more research. It's been a long time since I had mucked about with putting external drives into cases. But It seems that drives over 2TB need to be formatted a specific way as GPD instead of standard NTFS. If I right click on the drive and format I will only get an option for 1.99TB. I had to then go into Adminstration Settings and Disk Management and get it to format correctly (after I got my data off).

Anyway, I hope someone here learns from my problem. Use Testdisk and do the copy all files option instead of stuffing around trying to rebuild the partition table.

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

That pic had me googling.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wholesale-Micro-SD-card-16GB-use-for-Mobile-phone/517318297.html

Honest seller, selling honestly fake SD cards. Funny.

I once bought the cheapest possible microSD card from China, and while it fundamentally worked, and had its listed capacity, the very weird thing was that when I tried to play TV episodes (mkv/avi files) on a tablet from it, some would play, some wouldn't, acting as if there were problems with the codec or something. I ended up buying a Kingston SD card instead, and everything worked flawlessly. Very strange, but lesson learned.

WeX Majors
Apr 16, 2006
Joined for the archives

Humphreys posted:

Just over 3TB was actually on it. Most of my Lightroom RAW archives and various audio and video projects. The AVID MC files were scary. These were from an export of my work computer.

It definately wasn't a case of:




Man that picture is confusing. I get that it's an external hard drive that in reality only has a flash drive guts plugged in, but what's everything else inside the case? Just random bits to make the whole thing weigh more?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.

WeX Majors posted:

Man that picture is confusing. I get that it's an external hard drive that in reality only has a flash drive guts plugged in, but what's everything else inside the case? Just random bits to make the whole thing weigh more?

Yup.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

WeX Majors posted:

Man that picture is confusing. I get that it's an external hard drive that in reality only has a flash drive guts plugged in, but what's everything else inside the case? Just random bits to make the whole thing weigh more?

Yup. Looks like two nuts and a couple of stud anchors all hot-glued in.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

WeX Majors posted:

Man that picture is confusing. I get that it's an external hard drive that in reality only has a flash drive guts plugged in, but what's everything else inside the case? Just random bits to make the whole thing weigh more?

lmao this dope hasnt heard of data nuts/flash glue

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
Those are Monster Bolts in an mp3 player, it's an audio thing :smug:

WeX Majors
Apr 16, 2006
Joined for the archives
oooh! That's why they're gold plated! Makes the Data bits go faster!

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Buttcoin purse posted:

I don't even remember having trouble with multiple monitors.
Major first world problems here, but where Windows 7 would change the color scheme to basic, Windows 8 would disconnect 4 of my 6 monitors without warning. It's even more annoying when one of them is the Cintiq tablet I'm using at the time.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Humphreys posted:

For those playing at home, I did more research. It's been a long time since I had mucked about with putting external drives into cases. But It seems that drives over 2TB need to be formatted a specific way as GPD instead of standard NTFS. If I right click on the drive and format I will only get an option for 1.99TB. I had to then go into Adminstration Settings and Disk Management and get it to format correctly (after I got my data off).

Just to clarify, the partition type for disks bigger than 2TB should be GPT, as opposed to MBR. They are both still formatted as NTFS in relation to the actual file system, it's just how the partitions are laid down so they can be seen by either an older BIOS (for MBR), or the newer UEFI (for GPT).

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I've been watching LGR, and his oddware videos are filled with lots of weird stuff and two stuck out to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ytRvodB24
Yes holding a pen is way more natural than a mouse. As he demonstrates, it probably works fairly well with drawing programs, and is similar to drawing tablets, but as a full mouse replacement?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxesirLI488
My jr high school had computers with these on them. I don't know why they'd have them rather than mouses. Again I could see uses for them, but as a general replacement for mice it seems silly.

It a better mousetrap kind of thing, we have a thing that does the job we need it to do, but people come along with an idea that they think will been an viable alternative, even though there was no demand for it.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

WeX Majors posted:

oooh! That's why they're gold plated! Makes the Data bits go faster!

They're yellow passivated not gold plated. It's zinc, noob :smuggo:

(And chromate.)

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

Jerry Cotton posted:

They're yellow passivated not gold plated. It's zinc, noob :smuggo:

(And chromate.)

You aren't very good at making poo poo up to sell counterfeit audiophile gear.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Cat Hatter posted:

You aren't very good at making poo poo up to sell counterfeit audiophile gear.

Oh?

You know passivated is better than gold-plated since you don't want your connectors to be active elements in the chain, right? Also, zinc is an essential mineral perceived by the public today as being of "exceptional biologic and public health importance", especially regarding prenatal and postnatal development. Obviously this carries over to music as well.

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Jerry Cotton posted:

Oh?

You know passivated is better than gold-plated since you don't want your connectors to be active elements in the chain, right? Also, zinc is an essential mineral perceived by the public today as being of "exceptional biologic and public health importance", especially regarding prenatal and postnatal development. Obviously this carries over to music as well.

Um, you have to explain how this affects my personal audiospace and essential harmonics, not to mention the sound brightness, tone illumination and acoustic bio-euphoniousness if you want to sell it to me.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.
Look at these hucksters with their weak‐rear end coatings.

Y’all need some titanium nitride.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Jonathan Yeah! posted:

Um, you have to explain how this affects my personal audiospace and essential harmonics, not to mention the sound brightness, tone illumination and acoustic bio-euphoniousness if you want to sell it to me.

They cost $4000 more than gold-plated.

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

Jerry Cotton posted:

They cost $4000 more than gold-plated.

I'll take seven

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


GWBBQ posted:

Major first world problems here, but where Windows 7 would change the color scheme to basic, Windows 8 would disconnect 4 of my 6 monitors without warning. It's even more annoying when one of them is the Cintiq tablet I'm using at the time.

What kind of work do you do? Sounds cool.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Oh god, I hated windows 7 for that. I've got a Geforce 970, I highly doubt Fallout New Vegas was running at too high video settings so It had to switch to basic mode. Glad windows 10 fixed that.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Platystemon posted:

Look at these hucksters with their weak‐rear end coatings.

Y’all need some titanium nitride.



When I was trying to figure out how much it would cost to gold-plate an AK-47 (in case such a need arises), I found a local-ish place that does TiN coatings and it's surprisingly affordable (and of course, much more durable than gold plating)

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

8th-snype posted:

I'll take seven

They work best in pairs so you need uhh lemme just get a calculator... oh yeah that rounds up to sixteen.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Jonathan Yeah! posted:

Um, you have to explain how this affects my personal audiospace and essential harmonics, not to mention the sound brightness, tone illumination and acoustic bio-euphoniousness if you want to sell it to me.

uhh....the lcd screen is made of ..like wood.

the feet are spikes. also wood.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

GWBBQ posted:

Major first world problems here, but where Windows 7 would change the color scheme to basic, Windows 8 would disconnect 4 of my 6 monitors without warning. It's even more annoying when one of them is the Cintiq tablet I'm using at the time.

Like this happened every time you turned on your PC? When a black cat walked past?

Sorry, I guess it really is like you're talking about stuff that I've never seen since I live in the computing third world.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jerry Cotton posted:

They work best in pairs so you need uhh lemme just get a calculator... oh yeah that rounds up to sixteen.

Oh and don't forget Bi-wiring it! so double all your cabling plus our exclusive physics bending patent pending and industry applauded splitters. And buy our cable crystals for added atmosphere.



EDIT: As someone who sold high end audio equipment years ago - I sure did love looking at how heavy those cables were and the issues of stress on the solder joints. Maybe I should come up with a audiophile grade 'Cable cradle' - guaranteed to not harm your expensive amplifiers.

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Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

twistedmentat posted:

I've been watching LGR, and his oddware videos are filled with lots of weird stuff and two stuck out to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ytRvodB24
Yes holding a pen is way more natural than a mouse. As he demonstrates, it probably works fairly well with drawing programs, and is similar to drawing tablets, but as a full mouse replacement?

I had one of those. Well, mine was a later, cheaper knockoff (ironically, the cheap one I had had a steel ball). Like the said, the angle you had to hold it at was odd and the buttons were in an awkward spot -- it's like the inventor held a pen in a slightly different way than most people, and designed it to his ergonomics without thinking he might be the weird one.

The main thing, though, was that the ball was smooth -- it didn't have the tacky rubbery coating like a real mouse ball, with predictable results. Sure, it was super-accurate ... when the ball rolled instead of just sliding. And the rollers didn't have any grippy coating either, so even if the ball moved, it might not turn the cranks inside. That must be why the photos on all the Pro boxes are of people using it on their leg, because it really only worked when pressed into a soft surface (the old 1/4"-thick neoprene mousepads worked, but it needed a lot more pressure than you'd expect, more akin to a cheap off-brand crayon than a pencil or pen). It sure as hell wouldn't work on a bare desktop like in the original box art.

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(
Hell, if you get a tablet NOW and just use it as a generic input device without a tablet driver, you can still get the same effect with more reliability.

Based on my experience, it sucks.

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Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

twistedmentat posted:

I've been watching LGR, and his oddware videos are filled with lots of weird stuff and two stuck out to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ytRvodB24
Yes holding a pen is way more natural than a mouse. As he demonstrates, it probably works fairly well with drawing programs, and is similar to drawing tablets, but as a full mouse replacement?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxesirLI488
My jr high school had computers with these on them. I don't know why they'd have them rather than mouses. Again I could see uses for them, but as a general replacement for mice it seems silly.

It a better mousetrap kind of thing, we have a thing that does the job we need it to do, but people come along with an idea that they think will been an viable alternative, even though there was no demand for it.

My favorite LGR Oddware episode is the Demon Destroyer Gunn (yes, it's spelled that way), quite possibly the least-ergonomic game controller ever created:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO89FPclQjk

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