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Empress Theonora posted:nice to see that we're just slinging around slurs for the roma here in the paradox thread i guess Sorry, I laid it on too much. Gonna fix it.
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Sindai posted:I'm pretty sure Paradox can remove mods from the workshop for their games, I think Groogy has mentioned doing it for some CK2 mods in the past. They definitely did it for a CK2 mod that made an explicit 'rape' diplomatic decision for imprisoned women characters. So I'm pretty sure Paradox would clamp down hard on any holocaust mods.
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Ofaloaf posted:The And You Are Lynching Negroes Project: This mod provides flavorful events for the American internment of Japanese-American citizens and segregation laws in the US, the Sétif massacre in French Algeria, the construction of camps in British Cyprus in the event of UK victory, and other crimes of the Allied powers. Why are you asking for similar events shaming players of Axis countries? This mod is specifically meant to show that the Allied countries were no angels themselves, I don't see what's wrong with that. I want this unironically in order to highlight the lack of Axis warcrimes in the game. Wait, I think that means I actually want it ironically.
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Empress Theonora posted:nice to see that we're just slinging around slurs for the roma here in the paradox thread i guess You haven't lived until you get the French-Algerian social democrat talking about "those gypsies" at the bar and just wallow in the thickest of ironies as he repeats the same points the white nationalist the next bar over might. I forget though, did they completely cut out espionage/aggressive political shenanigans in HOI4?
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I forget though, did they completely cut out espionage/aggressive political shenanigans in HOI4? Yeah, a purpose-built espionage system is gone. I imagine there could be random events for espionage actions happening though.
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Apr 6, 2016 00:08
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The Narrator posted:Yeah, a purpose-built espionage system is gone. I imagine there could be random events for espionage actions happening though. In WWW they hinted at the ability to coup governments, so maybe they've made it a decision based event or something.
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The Narrator posted:Yeah, a purpose-built espionage system is gone. I imagine there could be random events for espionage actions happening though. Clicking on other nations now seems to straight up show what focus they're working on, as well as some of the ministers/industries they've selected and political landscape. It also provides what looks like estimations of manpower, number of vehicles and ships and industrial power though I have no idea what factors into the accuracy of each figure you see. From the information we've got so far it looks like you need to have either recon units in the vicinity of the enemy to really see what's going on, and/or good encryption/decryption ability (determined by tech?) and maybe radar stations. Don't mind the loss of espionage really, though if they could get it working in a fun way it'd be great to have back since it was kinda a big thing back then. In HOI3 it honestly seemed like your enemies had more influence over your country then you did and spies where just there to take up leadership points.
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Hinted at the ability to coup nations? They detailed it in a dev diary ages ago. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-34th-development-diary-20th-of-november-2015.891939/
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sparatuvs posted:In WWW they hinted at the ability to coup governments, so maybe they've made it a decision based event or something. They also hinted at this in the dev diary about civil wars and couping governments https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-34th-development-diary-20th-of-november-2015.891939/
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Stairmaster posted:They also hinted at this in the dev diary about civil wars and couping governments It seems like every major has a potential Spanish civil war like event chain. I'm very excited about that, you can finally do a communist Germany game outside of that DH scenario that was kinda broken.
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sparatuvs posted:It seems like every major has a potential Spanish civil war like event chain. I'm very excited about that, you can finally do a communist Germany game outside of that DH scenario that was kinda broken. Theres a great DH mod that improves Communist Germany playthroughs. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/communist-germany-mod.613550/ Adds a bunch of event chains and stuff.
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Funky Valentine posted:Better Germany mod Carefully renamed as "Black ICE"
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AdjectiveNoun posted:They definitely did it for a CK2 mod that made an explicit 'rape' diplomatic decision for imprisoned women characters. So I'm pretty sure Paradox would clamp down hard on any holocaust mods. Yeah I've banned a couple of those. Boy did one of those developers throw a tantrum. Groogy fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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Groogy posted:Yeah I've banned a couple of those. Boy did one of those developers throw a tantrum. Good. I'm very uncomfortable when I force abducted women to be concubines, but sometimes you just gotta close your eyes and click the button because the lady has a claim to the British throne.
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I'm fine with people doing horrible things in CK2, but there should be some subtlety.
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Genocide bad, purge good, pollutants must be removed!
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Apr 6, 2016 11:39
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There should be an equivalent "Binge" button in Stellaris somewhere.
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DrSunshine posted:There should be an equivalent "Binge" button in Stellaris somewhere. That'll be the play button in steam.
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Improved Trotsky v2 Anime Axis Portraits Malvine Islands are Argentinian Zombie Lenin vs Zombie Theodore Roosevelt expect me to make these mods for my trusted and beloved goons.
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Pony War - This mod replaces all portraits with original characters fitting the My Little Pony universe, and edits all flavor text for leaders, ministers and research teams. Nukes have been renamed to "Friendship" Anime Skies - All in-game airplane models are now Strike Witches. I have provided two versions of the mod, one with underwear and one without. Fleet Girls - All in-game ship models are now moe anime girls. The sound effect for firing weapons has been replaced by various sexual noises.
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USA now has decision "Full Communism Now". 
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popewiles posted:I sincerely hope that the paradox devs have created a drinking game based on how butthurt they can make their fans based entirely on insignificant details with no bearing on gameplay whatsoever. None designed that would allow a human to not die by alcoholpoisoning within 30 minutes.
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Ill make a Soviet Union mod that makes all of its ministers dress like frat boys and change their names. Broseph Sylin', hero of the Broviet union, who seized the means of Broduction for the Broletariat Agean90 fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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Apr 6, 2016 20:50
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If Stalin is the head of the USSR, all ministers should be animated pictures of them dancing.
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I will make a mod in which bulgaria is a world superpower for 1500 years.
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Triggerhappypilot posted:I will make a mod in which bulgaria is a world superpower
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So one nice BUT NOT A PROMISE IN ANY WAY thing that came from today's WWW was that they're going to try to get a few more custom national focus trees out by release for some smaller European nations like Hungary BUT NO PROMISES.
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pdxjohan posted:None designed that would allow a human to not die by alcoholpoisoning within 30 minutes. You underestimate what slavic ancestry plus being a programmer has done to my capacity for whiskey.
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Dibujante posted:You underestimate what slavic ancestry plus being a programmer has done to my capacity for whiskey. You underestimate the Internet.
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Dreylad posted:So one nice BUT NOT A PROMISE IN ANY WAY thing that came from today's WWW was that they're going to try to get a few more custom national focus trees out by release for some smaller European nations like Hungary BUT NO PROMISES. When did they say that? I didn't hear it
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Tuskin38 posted:When did they say that? I didn't hear it It was near the end. He mentioned Hungary as an example, but emphasized this is in no way a promise or statement of intent, just a "we'll see if we can get this in there if there's time maybe"
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EUIV just went on sale for 75% on Steam; should I get the "Extreme" edition or the collection with a crap ton of DLC?
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BadOptics posted:EUIV just went on sale for 75% on Steam; should I get the "Extreme" edition or the collection with a crap ton of DLC? The Extreme Edition is fine, doesn't add anything major but it's only $1.25 extra. The "Europa Universalis IV Collection (Sept 2014)", on the other hand, is $15 more than the base game and contains three major DLCs: Conquest of Paradise (pretty good if you like random new worlds), Res Publica (meh), and Wealth of Nations (also meh). It also includes a bunch of music and unit packs which are nice but not important at all. I do not think this is a great way to get into the game, unless you want to be a completionist from the start. So I would say get the base game or the Extreme Edition, then get Art of War, and optionally Common Sense, El Dorado, and/or Conquest of Paradise to round things out. You definitely can have a good time without a lot of the DLC.
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I'm still quite excited for HoI4 and it is looking very good, but I can't say that I was very impressed with the AI Chinas in the World War Wednesday stream (now on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeliuhVoUoI). It basically collapsed in under two years in the face of a very underprepared Japan. Daniel threw in tons of island garrisons (infantry formations not equivalent to full divisions both in lower quality of equipment and because they have less sub-units) and kept attacking all along the front, seemingly constantly not pausing at all from one attack to the other with the same unit. It reminded me a lot of how quickly the USSR folded against Germany in the previous stream (a Germany that had a really mismanaged economy/OOB because it went through three different players who just did all sorts of random things). I think AI China shouldn't be able to just eat Manchuria, but by all means should be able to throw up enough low-tier infantry to at least hold the line against Japan, which shouldn't be pulling off encirclements in low-infrastructure bad-terrain provinces in 1936 using basically just the starting army. I hope this stuff is still more indicative of the fact that we are two whole months away and that their build kept changing from one video to another.
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I must admit I've never really gotten into HoI3 so I am a bit confused about all this Holocaust talk, is the Holocaust just ignored in game? If not does it affect anything/can you as player opt out of it or something? Or are there just the usual morons from the Paradox forum who want to press a button to start the holocaust because they unironically think it's cool?
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Tahirovic posted:I must admit I've never really gotten into HoI3 so I am a bit confused about all this Holocaust talk, is the Holocaust just ignored in game? If not does it affect anything/can you as player opt out of it or something? Yes and yes. Crimes against humanity and war crimes in general are not represented and the Nazis don't like that.
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Tahirovic posted:I must admit I've never really gotten into HoI3 so I am a bit confused about all this Holocaust talk, is the Holocaust just ignored in game? If not does it affect anything/can you as player opt out of it or something? There's plenty of people in Paradox forums that claim the ability of causing Holocaust and committing war atrocities is necessary for immersion. Incidentally, these people tend to defend Nazis, write rants how Allies totally were asking for it and communism was worse, very convincingly roleplay fascists or reactionary monarchists in forum games (and getting pissed OOC when their side loses) and use phrases such as "political correctness" or "cultural Marxism". So yeah, probably giving them what they want wouldn't be a good idea.
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Meanwhile, in Decisive Campaigns: Barbarossa
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Tahirovic posted:I must admit I've never really gotten into HoI3 so I am a bit confused about all this Holocaust talk, is the Holocaust just ignored in game? If not does it affect anything/can you as player opt out of it or something? never mind this post might lead to horrible things yeah it's ignored Dreylad fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Apr 8, 2016 |
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Dreylad posted:On one hand, not modelling the Holocaust creates a game where the Nazi Reich's prominent politics of racial purity and creating living space for Germans aren't represented. Even though HoI4 is a game that focuses on war, the German army was definitely involved in those policies regardless of how much any wehraboo might argue otherwise. There's an argument that while those policies were important and has terrible consequences, WW2 was more about a war for resources, and the game chooses to focus on that particular aspect of the war which works well enough. Pretty sure the Rape of Nanking was actually in HoI2, possibly in 3 too? Not really sure why that one was seen as fine to let through though.
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