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Lime Tonics posted:Work was slow so I made derpgary. This is good! I liked the shitizen in the Brown Sea private testing thread saying that if folks had problems with CIG'S Q&A efforts they should give them more money to hire staff. If I had an account there I would ask how you could earmark purchases to go to that specific endeavor and not Sandi's acting lessons, their Twitch pizza fund, restoration hardware or Chris' nose candy supply. Edit: cat and dog snype 
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SomethingJones posted:In my day you had your normal human sex and you were happy. Welcome to the 21st century Grandpa, it's all hands wrapped in fine-grit sandpaper wanking into a red erotic froth from here on out.
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I just like the fact they let it slip that hiring Q&A staff costs too much, maybe dereks right about the funds drying up? I still want to see the car dealership though, better not fail before then.
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Fatkraken posted:The commentary of the director patiently explaining to the audience in the simplest language "yes, the theme is that war makes fascists of us all" is hilarious I remember the first time i watched it, really wasn't expecting what i got and was kind of pissed I didn't get a faithful book translation. Then on a second watching after i had calmed down a bit i realised what a brilliant piece of work verhoeven and crew had made. Then 9/11 happened and I watched it un-ironically. It's been in rotation as one of my favorite movies ever since.
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Fatkraken posted:The commentary of the director patiently explaining to the audience in the simplest language "yes, the theme is that war makes fascists of us all" is hilarious I love the movie and loved that commentary track so much except for the parts where they stop talking about the philosophy of the film in order to talk about the special effects. The special effects were (and still are) really nice but drat the film was a good bit of satire.
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BattleMaster posted:I love the movie and loved that commentary track so much except for the parts where they stop talking about the philosophy of the film in order to talk about the special effects. The special effects were (and still are) really nice but drat the film was a good bit of satire. I get that its satire. But satire of what. The book? I've never seen the director commentary.
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alphabettitouretti posted:CIG staff must break out in a cold sweat every time a new scifi movie is released because they know that Crobber will watch it then come in the next day and demand changes to rip off whatever he thought was cool. This, in part, is what created the Duke Nukem Forever shitshow
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Lime Tonics posted:I just like the fact they let it slip that hiring Q&A staff costs too much, maybe dereks right about the funds drying up? No poo poo. Isn't Q&A a low salary entry level position in games development?
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BattleMaster posted:I love the movie and loved that commentary track so much except for the parts where they stop talking about the philosophy of the film in order to talk about the special effects. The special effects were (and still are) really nice but drat the film was a good bit of satire. Fatkraken posted:The commentary of the director patiently explaining to the audience in the simplest language "yes, the theme is that war makes fascists of us all" is hilarious Same, i watched it when it came out at a very young age, and I watched it again about a year ago, fully understanding and appreciating the world building that took place in Paul Verhoeven's films. Subtle commentary is made throughout the film, things like in order to even have a baby, get into politics, or anything considered a high position today you must have at least served. The entire world is united under one, ruthless banner, locked in a war with even more ruthless aliens. It's the same thing with Robocop. You just accept that things are they way they are with the added world building they did. The lovely commercials for cars and talk shows, the constant crime, a future look of what detroit looks like today, poo poo like that? It's the same with the propaganda and comical content they provide in Starship troopers. It's supposed to be funny, it's supposed to draw you in and make you believe that the world has changed dramatically, but in an acceptable way. Fargin Icehole fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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atxsperg posted:This, in part, is what created the Duke Nukem Forever shitshow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Duke_Nukem_Forever holy poo poo, it's like the future. "One former employee said that Broussard and Miller were still operating on a "1995 mentality", before games became large-team, big budget development affairs. Because they were financing the project themselves, the developers could also ignore pressure from their publisher." "By the end of 1999, Duke Nukem Forever had missed several release dates and was largely unfinished; half the game's weapons remained concepts." The game switched engines 3 times. lol, star citizen is following a wikipedia development roadmap.....TO HELL.
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Tortolia posted:No poo poo. Isn't Q&A a low salary entry level position in games development? Yeah. It's literally the first stop in games making and there's some ridiculous horror stories about it. But then again when you have legions of retards clamoring to do it for free, why pay some highschool grads to do it? At least, that's the way CIG clearly sees it.
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:Welcome to the 21st century Grandpa, it's all hands wrapped in fine-grit sandpaper wanking into a red erotic froth from here on out. 98% of human endeavour is dedicated to finding new ways of pleasing the penis. The remaining 2% is inventing distractions from wanting to please the penis. This is why aliens never visit us.
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SurfaceDetail posted:I get that its satire. But satire of what. The book? I've never seen the director commentary. Verhoeven tried reading the original Starship Troopers book by Heinlein, gave up a couple chapters in because it was a love letter to fascism (it was written when Heinlein was going through a very militarily-optimistic phase and he used the book as a vessel for his views which he had come under attack for) and went and did his own thing using just the broad strokes of the plot and setting and used it as a criticism of optimistic militarism/might makes right. Large chunks of the movie are inspired by propaganda newsreels (not just the famous "would you like to know more?" parts), the characters wear uniforms heavily inspired by WW2 Germany's, and a lot of the dialogue is about how violence and war is good and just. This is juxtaposed with things like how all the people who earned their citizenship through military service and came back alive were crippled in some way, how executions are broadcast on TV and advertised like sporting events, and how public floggings are mentioned and shown to be a typical punishment for stepping out of line. If you turn off your brain you might just end up cheering the characters on, when in fact you're supposed to see all of this stuff as being bad. I mean, the bugs couldn't possibly have even launched that asteroid at Earth from across the galaxy but they're used as the punching bag for the current two minutes of hate because the society that was depicted in the movie always needs something to direct its violence at. But after all the death and killing, the movie ends on a "hell yeah let's get some more" note with the characters who survived showing up as stars of a propaganda reel of their own. Edit: It was so good at what it tried to do that it got criticized for being a "fascist" movie by critics who didn't look past the surface to see that the movie was in no way endorsing this society and was in fact showing it to be monstrous BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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BattleMaster posted:Verhoeven tried reading the original Starship Troopers book by Heinlein, gave up a couple chapters in because it was a love letter to fascism (it was written when Heinlein was going through a very militarily-optimistic phase and he used the book as a vessel for his views which he had come under attack for) and went and did his own thing using just the broad strokes of the plot and setting and used it as a criticism of optimistic militarism/might makes right. Large chunks of the movie are inspired by propaganda newsreels (not just the famous "would you like to know more?" parts), the characters wear uniforms heavily inspired by WW2 Germany's, and a lot of the dialogue is about how violence and war is good and just. This is juxtaposed with things like how all the people who earned their citizenship through military service and came back alive were crippled in some way, and how executions are broadcast on TV and advertised like sporting events. Heinlein wasn't a fascist though. Stranger in a Strange Land was a socialist paradise. No one accuses him of being a commie. He was a sci fi writer doing worldbuilding. Excellent movie though and I did like the tongue in check stuff. First watched it when I was like 11 and scared for life in the first klendathu scene.
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BattleMaster posted:Edit: It was so good at what it tried to do that it got criticized for being a "fascist" movie by critics who didn't look past the surface to see that the movie was in no way endorsing this society and was in fact showing it to be monstrous I think this is my favorite part of the entire saga. Verhoeven's Starship Troopers acted as a sort of rebuttal to the open praise of fascism in Heinlein's novel. It was then simultaneously heavily criticized for A) being not enough like the book and B) being seen as promoting fascism. People literally just didn't know what the gently caress to do with it.
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SurfaceDetail posted:Heinlein wasn't a fascist though. Stranger in a Strange Land was a socialist paradise. No one accuses him of being a commie. He was a sci fi writing doing worldbuilding. Heinlein wasn't a fascist; he did go through a phase where he was super optimistic about militarism. Starship Troopers was written as a response response to him coming under attack for being heavily pro-nuclear weapons testing (something heavily opposed by other sci-fi writers in general).
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SurfaceDetail posted:Heinlein wasn't a fascist though. Stranger in a Strange Land was a socialist paradise. No one accuses him of being a commie. He was a sci fi writer doing worldbuilding. Heinlein was a proud military man though and did go through a phase where he did feel a certain attitude of CITIZENSHIP MUST BE EARNED. (lol star citizen picked that one up and made it a good thing)
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SurfaceDetail posted:Heinlein wasn't a fascist though. Stranger in a Strange Land was a socialist paradise. No one accuses him of being a commie. He was a sci fi writing doing worldbuilding. e: nevermind, no need to dogpile.
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Isn't the "Citizenship must be earned" crap from Starship Troopers too? Star Citizen - what won't we Archerize? e: Missed CP's mention of this Go-Gurt For Dinner fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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"Y'know, one man's fascism is another man's patriotism." - Guy directing Starship Troopers remake.
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:Starship Troopers remake. God damnit.
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Well, it did get two direct to sequel videos that were mostly just an excuse for the CGI FX guys to render more bugs and completely missed the point (and production values) of the original. So it's not that sacred an IP.
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BattleMaster posted:Well, it did get two direct to sequel videos that were mostly just an excuse for the CGI FX guys to render more bugs and completely missed the point (and production values) of the original. So it's not that sacred an IP. And the full cgi Starship Troopers: Invasion that was actually pretty okay and had a very anime vibe to it.
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Beet Wagon posted:And the full cgi Starship Troopers: Invasion that was actually pretty okay and had a very anime vibe to it. I had never heard of that; I'm going to track it down. I also remember Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles being decent as far as a Saturday morning cartoon adaptation goes.
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Lime Tonics posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Duke_Nukem_Forever Some of the CIG team are survivors of DNF its like groundhog day, but so much worse.
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aleksendr posted:I agree its not the most likely scenario, but i think its one of the more plausible. No Western Dev will touch the IP, but China would come in with very little knowledge of Croberts and his grandstanding agaist publishers and the industry. Let's just assume those geniuses that said China is a paper tiger of an economy are true and they are just building for the sake of inflated GDP. EVEN if China is the most fraudulent economy to have ever existed, THEY would not touch Star Citizen with a ten foot pole. Solar Plebeian on the other hand... that is fruit RIPE for the taking. EDIT --- Also China doesn't really believe in IP rights so what's stopping them from just ripping it and the "assets" off and starting their own game? Darkpriest667 fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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BattleMaster posted:Well, it did get two direct to sequel videos that were mostly just an excuse for the CGI FX guys to render more bugs and completely missed the point (and production values) of the original. So it's not that sacred an IP. I thought the third film was getting back to the point of the first film. I liked how religion was completely outlawed until the government realised they could use it to help control the population. Of course, that could just be because part of me will always be an angsty teenager. Second film was absolute balls.
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The Starship Troopers video games were great too - the RTS and FPS were book/movie hybrids, so you got dudes with rifles but also power-armor up to book-style power armor. But with bug design based on the movie look.
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Mirificus posted:
Cobblers is fantastic. He's definitely Goon quality material.
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SurfaceDetail posted:IS CR the next Hitler??!?!?!? Quite possibly, neither of them were able to finish off their biggest project.
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D_Smart posted:Cobblers is fantastic. He's definitely Goon quality material. I thought that was a goon?
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Sunswipe posted:I thought the third film was getting back to the point of the first film. I liked how religion was completely outlawed until the government realised they could use it to help control the population. Of course, that could just be because part of me will always be an angsty teenager. Second film was absolute balls. I didn't watch the third after how bad the second one was but I'll check it out. Also, I knew about the RTS game but I didn't know it got an FPS game. Looks like there's so much Starship Troopers media for me to check out still :O
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crobblers does occassionally post here, yea
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RoosterChief posted:Isn't the "Citizenship must be earned" crap from Starship Troopers too? I think we need a glossy in the OP -- so "archerize", "parp", "o9", "Donutgate" and other thread shibboleths are catalogued for newer visitors.
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DatonKallandor posted:The Starship Troopers video games were great too - the RTS and FPS were book/movie hybrids, so you got dudes with rifles but also power-armor up to book-style power armor. But with bug design based on the movie look. I never played them, sadly. Just took a look at them on Youtube and they look pretty good. BattleMaster posted:I didn't watch the third after how bad the second one was but I'll check it out. Also, I knew about the RTS game but I didn't know it got an FPS game. Looks like there's so much Starship Troopers media for me to check out still :O Also, FWIW, while it's not actually Starship Troopers, the game Helldivers borrows very heavily from ST and works it into a 4 person twin-stick shooter that is a huge amount of fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5PdXveIeo4 Beet Wagon fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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D_Smart posted:Cobblers is fantastic. He's definitely Goon quality material. https://forums.somethingawful.com/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=217118
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atxsperg posted:Some of the CIG team are survivors of DNF Have you see this upcoming Ship Sales Floor we've heard so much about in the last two months of AtV? Is CIG finally ending the "Sausage Citizen" era via the introduction of female NPCs to the game with it? Or will it just be more endless clones of the universal dark-haired, crazy-eyed Everyman we're already sick to death of? Also-- can you comment on particle physics quality in champagne bubble animations at this point? I'm really hoping they don't cut corners on the fidelity levels there. If it looks like they are, let me know and I will send Chris a clip of some fantastic bubble systems in another game so that can go back to the drawing board and get retooled.
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