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Niwrad posted:I didn't think Tirico was great or anything but I think you guys are underestimating how bad some of the other PbP folks are out there. He was boring but competent in multiple sports. Sure but ESPN has a bunch of competent play by play guys to replace him with. Rick posted:I thought Tirico was decent when he did the NBA. Like everything else he does he was completely fine but kinda boring. I think Breen was a big upgrade as the A team commentator
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Tirico is good, and more importantly, he was versatile. That's where I disagree with MV and say he won't be easy to replace -- there aren't a lot of guys out there who can go from NFL to NBA to golf to tennis and sound well-versed in all of them. If ESPN could afford to match NBC's offer, they would've done it in a heartbeat.
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Benne posted:Gruden is one of the few NFL announcers who sounds like he actually enjoys watching football. Nearly everyone else working today is so humorless or self-serious about THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE, that Gruden's wide-eyed, knee-slapping "AIN'T THAT THE CRAZIEST PLAY" is almost a breath of fresh air. I agree. Gruden seems to find at least a little joy in even the worst games, and he gives less informed fans enough info to make games enjoyable, much like Madden did.
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BasicFunk posted:I agree. Gruden seems to find at least a little joy in even the worst games, and he gives less informed fans enough info to make games enjoyable, much like Madden did. Gruden is the irritating but relatively lighthearted Marvel to the grimdark DC Aikman universe, I'll take my answer off the air.
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BasicFunk posted:I agree. Gruden seems to find at least a little joy in even the worst games, and he gives less informed fans enough info to make games enjoyable, much like Madden did. Gruden is the new Dick Vitale for ESPN. Both have a tendency to become parodies of themselves, but you can tell they eat, sleep, breathe, and love their respective sports and very much believe/act like ambassadors for the game.
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Another thing I like about Gruden is that you never feel like he's talking down to you. A lot of ex-coaches who go to the booth have this haughty nature around them and want to shove their credentials down your throat, like I WON A SUPER BOWL SO LET ME TELL YOU HOW IT REALLY IS. Brian Billick was the worst offender of this. Instead, Gruden approaches the game from an everyman's perspective. When he goes into Xs and Os it's never from the Jaws angle of "interesting but impenetrable insider jargon." It's usually THIS IS Y 2 SPIDER BANANA WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BUT IT SOUNDS COOL AND HERE'S HOW IT WORKS. It's just a relatable form of NFL analysis that we don't really get these days.
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Benne posted:Speaking of Ian Darke, I wonder what he's going to do after Euro 2016. ESPN won't have the World Cup or Euros for at least a decade, and given how penny-pinching they've become I don't imagine they'll want to pay Darke to cover like 2 USMNT games a year. Ian Darke is currently employed by BT Sport in the UK and works as their lead commentator. He and Martin Tyler can do World Cups and the Euros for the American networks, as well as USMNT games because those rights haven't been bought by satellite networks and won't be for the forseeable future unless there is a serious challenge to the law
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:Ian Darke is currently employed by BT Sport in the UK and works as their lead commentator. He and Martin Tyler can do World Cups and the Euros for the American networks, as well as USMNT games because those rights haven't been bought by satellite networks and won't be for the forseeable future unless there is a serious challenge to the law I'm interested to hear more about "the law" since UK sports rights, from a dumb American perspective, seem to be more complex than the US system (which is essentially "whatever network offers more money gets the event"). Care to expand more on how sports broadcasting works in the UK?
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Benne posted:I'm interested to hear more about "the law" since UK sports rights, from a dumb American perspective, seem to be more complex than the US system (which is essentially "whatever network offers more money gets the event"). Care to expand more on how sports broadcasting works in the UK? Yeah I'd love to hear this as well
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It's pretty simple, certain events ie: The World Cup can't be on pay tv channels in the UK. edit: that came across super patronising. In some countries, like say The United Kingdom and Australia for various social or political reasons, the governments protect certain sporting events from being on pay tv. In Australia this is because Pay tv is expensive and gently caress Rupert Murdoch. As a result, there is still like bidding and poo poo like that for the events, it's just it is limited to the three or four networks in Australia that could or would bid for them. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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LordPants posted:It's pretty simple, certain events ie: The World Cup can't be on pay tv channels in the UK. By contrast, the reason this setup exists in the UK is because Pay tv is expensive and gently caress Rupert Murdoch.
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^^^ Hooooly poo poo they're gonna lose so much money on that contract.Benne posted:In this thread making fun of hot takes, I'll make a take of my own: Jon Gruden is the Madden successor we've been waiting for. I agree with you. I had a glimmer of the same thought recently. Bear in mind, this is a world in which I think Joe Buck might actually be the best we can get for pro football pbp.
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Kalli posted:Fox gave Skip Bayless $26m for 4 years to leave ESPN. that's a really expensive pile of manure
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LordPants posted:It's pretty simple, certain events ie: The World Cup can't be on pay tv channels in the UK. There's something similar here in the US. Events of great national interest, such as presidential debates, can't be on cable and have to be on over the air television, so everyone can have access to it. The Super Bowl is considered an event of great national interest so it couldn't only be on ESPN per say. But I think that's the only sporting event that qualifies.
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Al Michaels is still working so Joe Buck is not even particularly close to being to best lead play by play guy calling games for a major network
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Few things are as entertaining as when Michaels and Collinsworth are clearly half in the bag by the third quarter of a garbage game.
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Kalli posted:Fox gave Skip Bayless $26m for 4 years to leave ESPN. God drat, Fox. I hope they enjoy every bite of that poo poo pie. Also Cowherd is a flunky and a tool bag.
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C. Everett Koop posted:There's something similar here in the US. Events of great national interest, such as presidential debates, can't be on cable and have to be on over the air television, so everyone can have access to it. The Super Bowl is considered an event of great national interest so it couldn't only be on ESPN per say. But I think that's the only sporting event that qualifies. I remember hearing something like there is a law that prevents the superbowl being a PPV
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I think this does a better job of showing what has to be shown on free to air TV in the UK. The 2009 review at the bottom has essentially gutted a lot of live sport and moved it to pay TV under the previso that "highlights" are available on free to air TV. All that means is that I won't be able to see Jim Nantz in a BBC studio for The Open again
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NBC Sports Live Extra and Fox Sports Go have recently overhauled their apps. They're Windows 8-y now, and I don't know if I like it.
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Timby posted:Trent Dilfer is walking from ESPN over a salary dispute. outside of grantland dying (and, like, a bunch of production folks losing their jobs) so far the ESPN budget cuts seem mostly very dope
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Bird in a Blender posted:I'm not sure you could have come up with two people I hate more than this for a show. Skip Bayless to serve as stat boy
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Benne posted:Free Katie Nolan Bird in a Blender posted:I'm not sure you could have come up with two people I hate more than this for a show.
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Timby posted:Trent Dilfer is walking from ESPN over a salary dispute. Finally I don't have to see his ugly shoes with a suit anymore
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Bird in a Blender posted:I'm not sure you could have come up with two people I hate more than this for a show. It's like they were dared to come up with a worse combo than Steven A/Skip and somehow pulled it off.
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MourningView posted:outside of grantland dying (and, like, a bunch of production folks losing their jobs) so far the ESPN budget cuts seem mostly very dope
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes and come Jan 2017, I imagine 538 will be shutting down 538 might live on because don't they share the cost of that with ABC News?
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As a tv casual I gotta say I didn't even know who tirico worked for. All the channels and voices blend together after a while and I don't think ESPN will have issue replacing him.
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Timby posted:Trent Dilfer is walking from ESPN over a salary dispute. LISTEN WHEN YOU TAKE A JOB AT THE ANALYST POSITION FOR THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT AND SPORTS NETWORK YOU NEED TO BE FAIRLY COMPENSATED FOR EXPLAINING ABOUT HOW WINNING TRANSLATES DIRECTLY TO WINS ESPECIALLY AT THE QUARTERBACK POSITION (curtain pulls back to reveal a chorus line) IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
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