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It's hard to reconcile the fact that the guy who agrees with me more than anyone about The Leftovers also likes Homestuck and JoJo's Anime Thing
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Escobarbarian posted:It's hard to reconcile the fact that the guy who agrees with me more than anyone about The Leftovers also likes Homestuck and JoJo's Anime Thing This is how I felt when I saw Bin Laden's porn collection.
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HIJK posted:Stole this from the Comic Book movie thread: I know this is news from a few weeks ago, but I needed to come and reiterate that this is loving stupid and I hate everyone responsible. Daredevil and Spider-Man are so intertwined. What's the fuckin point of these things sharing a universe if they can't actually share that universe?! Why do I give a poo poo if Daredevil exists alongside Robert Downey Jr. 's Iron Man if he'll never meet him? If we never see Frank admit that he respects Cap above the rest of the capes. If we never see Luke Cage take a punch from The Hulk.
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Finally finished second season. The punisher stuff was a good strong start. I liked Matt insisting Nelson and Murdock take the case. Really liked how life as Daredevil had consequences for Mat's career and relationships. The actress play Electra nailed the character; the nija stuff well let me just you can really understand how reading Miller's Daredevil and lead to the creation of Teenage Mutant Turtles.
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Apr 24, 2016 19:11
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Escobarbarian posted:It's hard to reconcile the fact that the guy who agrees with me more than anyone about The Leftovers also likes Homestuck and JoJo's Anime Thing Nevermind, I realize that I got Toxxupation mixed up with Oxxidation.
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Apr 24, 2016 19:48
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It became very hard in season 2 to go along with the limitations to Daredevil's powers that we were presented. He can hear conversations seemingly miles away, and has such sensitivity that he can sense the contents of boxes several yards away from him, and yet he has to be told to listen to the weapons of the ninjas? Later he has to be told to listen to their breathing? What? Then by listening to their breathing he can suddenly dodge their hands and feet? Huh? I know part of comic book fiction is rolling with the punches when it comes to powers, but season 1 seemed to handle it much better and have a better consistency with his vulnerabilities.
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Apr 24, 2016 20:18
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LegalPad posted:It became very hard in season 2 to go along with the limitations to Daredevil's powers that we were presented. I was a little thrown by that, but I adjusted pretty quickly. I've always understood Daredevil to be able to see everything around him extremely clearly because of a loosely-defined radar sense, enhanced by each of his senses (besides sight).  His 'image' of the world around him is constantly being redefined by how his heightened senses interpret them, and give him a landscape. A lot of factors can confuse this, and they're sometimes written or depicted inconsistently. His vision is founded upon echolocation, which is simple to sonar. Active sonar requires creating a sound, and using, for example, his walking stick to create a tap, and listen for the echoes of the tap to judge distance. Passive sonar just lets him listen and identify. He was able to identify a train car full of sand just by its acoustics, and how it reacted to environmental factors (wind, etc.). Listening to the Hand Ninjas' breathing as opposed to their heartbeat was a little confusing, because I thought: Why wouldn't he be listening for breathing anyway? Then I realized he's come to rely on heartbeat as his measuring stick for location, stress measurement, and unique identification (yeah, DD can ID people via their unique heartbeat). So having to refocus and get away from a crutch was a good storytelling device. Edit: Sand, not sound Red fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Apr 26, 2016 |
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Apr 26, 2016 17:11
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I nearly gave up on JJ several times before the last 5 episodes paid off all the setup. In the end, it was A Good Show, but nowhere near as fun or good as DD. Also, can we retire the word "mook" from the goon lexicon? Must have read that word a million times in this thread.
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Apr 26, 2016 19:30
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Red posted:Listening to the Hand Ninjas' breathing as opposed to their heartbeat was a little confusing, because I thought: Why wouldn't he be listening for breathing anyway? Then I realized he's come to rely on heartbeat as his measuring stick for location, stress measurement, and unique identification (yeah, DD can ID people via their unique heartbeat). So having to refocus and get away from a crutch was a good storytelling device. How come they have no heartbeat but need to breathe? Maybe I'm missing something but it seemed like the implication during this season was that they're some kind of undeads.
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Apr 26, 2016 19:33
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tazjin posted:How come they have no heartbeat but need to breathe? Maybe I'm missing something but it seemed like the implication during this season was that they're some kind of undeads. Without going back on Netflix at work, I don't remember if he listened to them breathing, or to their weapons cutting through the air. I don't think they're undead, since they stay down when stabbed or shot - except Nobu. I'd wager they just have a method of self-control or masking to aid them, likely trained in advance of encountering Stick, who relies on echolocation. If they're more than that, it'll be revealed next season.
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Apr 26, 2016 19:46
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Without echolocation he wouldn't be able to dramatically throw away his walking cane and climb up on roofs and jump around. If he can tell where a ladder is without it having a heartbeat then should know where the ninjas are, it was just a dumb gimmick for tension, Ninja's were big on distraction stuff it would of made more sense for them to use like firecrackers or noise devices to overwhelm/confuse him.
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Apr 26, 2016 19:54
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Red posted:Without going back on Netflix at work, I don't remember if he listened to them breathing, or to their weapons cutting through the air. At first, Nobu slowed his heart rate and breathing to be undetectable by DD when he was ambushing him at that first fight. Then the ninjas were undetectable by DD until I think Elektra told him to listen for their weapons. Then they dropped the weapons and they were again undetectable by DD until Stick told him to listen for their breath. I dunno, it just seemed a bit clumsy and I was taken out of the action trying to figure out how he can hear stick whispering in another room, but needs to be told by that whisper from another room to listen to breathing from the ninjas in the same room as him. Season one had a more straight forward approach to it by just having us assume he had a type of 'vision' and so could essentially see.
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Apr 26, 2016 19:56
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It's basically the like agent "upgrades" in The Matrix. Nonsensical bullshit to make the fights feel like they are higher stakes.
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Apr 26, 2016 19:58
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odiv posted:It's basically the like agent "upgrades" in The Matrix. Nonsensical bullshit to make the fights feel like they are higher stakes. This clan of magic undead ninjas sure don't seem grounded.
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socialsecurity posted:Without echolocation he wouldn't be able to dramatically throw away his walking cane and climb up on roofs and jump around. If he can tell where a ladder is without it having a heartbeat then should know where the ninjas are, it was just a dumb gimmick for tension, Ninja's were big on distraction stuff it would of made more sense for them to use like firecrackers or noise devices to overwhelm/confuse him. The difference is that once DD places an inanimate object, its location isn't going to change. Fighting against moving targets that surround him and give off no telltale human life-signs confuse him, because they're harder to discern from the surrounding environment.
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Apr 26, 2016 20:00
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Red posted:I was a little thrown by that, but I adjusted pretty quickly.
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Apr 26, 2016 20:02
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Tucked-In T-Shirt posted:I nearly gave up on JJ several times before the last 5 episodes paid off all the setup. In the end, it was A Good Show, but nowhere near as fun or good as DD. We could, but it's been in comic lexicon since the pulps.
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Apr 26, 2016 20:05
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RareAcumen posted:Nevermind, I realize that I got Toxxupation mixed up with Oxxidation. They're the same?
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Apr 26, 2016 20:10
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SaviourX posted:We could, but it's been in comic lexicon since the pulps. Oh, well by all means run it into the ground then.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Ever since I saw this video it's sort of how I conceptualized Daredevil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMli33ornEU Holy poo poo this owns. Tucked-In T-Shirt posted:Oh, well by all means run it into the ground then. Stuff it ya mook.
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Apr 26, 2016 22:08
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Red posted:Without going back on Netflix at work, I don't remember if he listened to them breathing, or to their weapons cutting through the air. The ninja that died at the hospital had already been autopsied. The Hand can resurrect its members. They just can't resurrect themselves. Matt has shown himself as needing to filter sounds by type, to not get overwhelmed. It makes perfect sense to me that having never fought semi-undead before, he wouldn't think to listen on a breath "spectrum" rather than heartbeats, since regular people do both.
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jscolon2.0 posted:The ninja that died at the hospital had already been autopsied. The Hand can resurrect its members. They just can't resurrect themselves. Then why doesn't he walk into walls?
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I think the truth is that the writers just forgot how their own show worked.
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socialsecurity posted:Then why doesn't he walk into walls? Walls don't generally move, or fight you. Generally. Presumably "static environment" and "person I am fighting" are separate takes on the same skill for him and having to change it up suddenly fucks with his accuracy.
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socialsecurity posted:Then why doesn't he walk into walls? He's got a stick?
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And here we go: Netflix orders a Punisher series with Jon Bernthal. Steve Lightfoot -- from motherfucking Hannibal -- will run the show.
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DivisionPost posted:And here we go: Netflix orders a Punisher series with Jon Bernthal. Steve Lightfoot -- from motherfucking Hannibal -- will run the show. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude. Holy poo poo. It really is a shame the tv division of marvel is still run by Perlmutter because I would give body parts to see this Punisher in the films.
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DivisionPost posted:Steve Lightfoot -- from motherfucking Hannibal -- will run the show. In before Toxx comes in to ruin this thread again
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Pointless, gratuitous violence for the sake of it is sorta the Punisher M.O., so I think anyone connected to Hannibal is a perfect fit as showrunner, to be honest. As long as the show stresses the dehumanizing nature of the ultra-violence it should work.
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MrAristocrates posted:In before Toxx comes in to ruin this thread again Whoa.
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Replace Jon Bernthal with recut footage of Robin Williams. Or go even further and hire the dude who played Napoleon Dynamite.
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It's gonna need an incredible supporting cast not because Bernthal is bad, but because him being the sole focus is gonna be super harrowing and exhausting. I liked one goon's suggestion that the show is always from a criminal's POV until the end where Punisher busts in guns blazing
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A Punisher TV Show not centrally about the Punisher misses the entire point. Like, there's heroes who are more ensembles in comics - Jessica Jones is one, Daredevil is one sorta arguably but not really, Luke Cage is one, being that his most successful run was in a duo. The Punisher is Frank Castle. The most successful Punisher comics have been Frank Castle. You don't do a Punisher comic for any reason other than Frank Castle. He's a loner, defined by his loss, and he plays horribly with others and ends up pushing them away. Trying to make a Punisher TV show for any reason other than 42 minutes of Frank shooting people and brooding fundamentally misunderstands the character and calls into question why you'd even make it in the first place. That's Punisher's whole point, his whole bit.
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That's one story. Currently the Punisher is a super cool, totally awesome, man I wish I was this guy badass. He's never hurt an innocent and everything he does is good. #BlueLivesMatter
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Apr 29, 2016 18:12
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Frank Castle and Jar Jar Binks teamup show
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Also welcome back frank is good because of who else is there. The gnuccis rhe apartment people the other vigilantes the loving russian. It gives a good counterpoint
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Just finished Daredevil season 2. Overall really good, but I couldn't stand Paige by the end of it. In a show about a blind dude dressing up in a devil costume to beat up bad guys, she seemed like the wish-fulfillment fantasy character. She's just way too naturally competent at every situation she lands in. From the moment she walks into the newsroom, she is immediately the best investigative reporter ever, can connect all the dots the professionals missed, and wins herself a giant office in a pretty crowded looking building without even writing a story. I hope all her coworkers hate her.
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Just as long as it ain't Kitchen Irish, although they already shot the guys face off so he's ready for that one.
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