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Dalris Othaine
Oct 14, 2013

I think, therefore I am inevitable.
Here's an FF.net link if you don't want to put up with forums formatting. :v:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10677106/1/Seventh-Horcrux

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SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

divabot posted:

If you're into HP fic and you want a Harrymort who sucks less, there's a nice crackfic called Seventh Horcrux (that's the index page) which is a moment's amusement.

This is good and I like it a lot. Thanks for sharing this!

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Back when I was a dark lord, I used to have a whole group of Death Eaters performing that task. I also had a group that dealt with public relations. My decision to put Bellatrix in the latter group probably explains why I was considered a dark lord and not a slightly over-zealous politician.

gold goddamn stars

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

I enjoyed the twist towards the end.

Harry mostly acted like and perceived himself as Voldemort because he'd Imperio'd himself to act like 'himself'.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


http://store.steampowered.com/app/459310/

f-f-f-f-fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

The hell is that

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

The Shortest Path posted:

The hell is that

Bird

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Stay focused guys. Yud. Harry. The bad superhero thing never happened.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Chapter 18: Dominance Hierarchies
Part Seven


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"You are a very foolish boy," Severus said. He wasn't smiling at all, now. "You have nothing that Lucius values more than my friendship. And if you did, I have other allies." His voice grew hard. "And I find it increasingly unlikely that you were not Sorted into Slytherin. How was it that you managed to stay out of my House? Ah, yes, because the Sorting Hat claimed it was joking. For the first time in recorded history. What were you really chatting about with the Sorting Hat, Potter? Did you have something that it wanted?"


Why is it so surprising that Eliezarry didn’t get Sorted into Slytherin House? Slytherins are supposed to be “cunning” (according to the Sorting Hat’s song); impulse-driven open confrontation with a far older, far more experienced, far more connected authority figure hardly seems to be “cunning”.



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Harry stared into Severus's cold gaze and remembered that the Sorting Hat had warned him not to meet anyone's eyes while thinking about - Harry dropped his gaze to Severus's desk.

"You seem oddly reluctant to look me in the eyes, Potter!"

A shock of sudden understanding - "So it was you the Sorting Hat was warning me about!"

"What?" said Severus's voice, sounding genuinely surprised, though of course Harry didn't look at his face.

Harry got up out of his desk.

"Sit down, Potter," said an angry voice from somewhere he wasn't looking.

Harry ignored it, and looked around the classroom. "I have no intention of letting one unprofessional teacher ruin my time at Hogwarts," Harry said with deadly calm. "I think I'll take my leave of this class, and either hire a tutor to teach me Potions while I'm here, or if the Board is really that locked up, learn over the summer. If any of you decide that you don't care to be bullied by this man, my sessions will be open to you."


Again, escalating the confrontation so far and so fast, without having done any research on your opponent’s capabilities or allies, is really not clever at all. Eliezarry may have read a lot of books but he hasn’t absorbed all that much, it seems.


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"Sit down, Potter! "

Harry strode across the room and grasped the doorknob.

It didn't turn.

Harry slowly turned around, and caught a glimpse of Severus smiling nastily before he remembered to look away.

"Open this door."

"No," said Severus.

"You are making me feel threatened," said a voice so icy it didn't sound like Harry's at all, "and that is a mistake."


I guess this is a hint / foreshadowing that part of Voldemort’s soul / personality got mixed up with Eliezarry when Voldemort’s Killing Curse on Eliezarry backfired on him? Does this also explain why Eliezarry is acting so impulsively and rashly?

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

He "knows" that Dumbledore values him too highly to allow anything actually bad to happen to him in Hogwarts, because he accidentally guessed that there was a prophecy concerning him and McGonagall gave it away.

Also probably a bit of that, yeah.

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

The Shortest Path posted:

He "knows" that Dumbledore values him too highly to allow anything actually bad to happen to him in Hogwarts, because he accidentally guessed that there was a prophecy concerning him and McGonagall gave it away.

Also probably a bit of that, yeah.

So are we really going with the "you can't arrest me, my dad's a lawyer!" attitude here? Is that really what Imm supposed to sympathise with here?

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Furia posted:

So are we really going with the "you can't arrest me, my dad's a lawyer!" attitude here? Is that really what Imm supposed to sympathise with here?

Well Snape just literally said "I can't be fired, my best friend is a Vice-Dark Lord" sooo...

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

NihilCredo posted:

Well Snape just literally said "I can't be fired, my best friend is a Vice-Dark Lord" sooo...

Huh. Good point.

So what we have here is more like two kids arguing in the schoolyard, one who's father works at Nintendo, the other who's father works at Playstation.

The Machine Intelligence Research Institute, ladies and gentlemen.

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

JosephWongKS posted:


Why is it so surprising that Eliezarry didn’t get Sorted into Slytherin House? Slytherins are supposed to be “cunning” (according to the Sorting Hat’s song); impulse-driven open confrontation with a far older, far more experienced, far more connected authority figure hardly seems to be “cunning”.


Crabbe and Goyle got into Slytherin, we're basically forced to assume it's a matter of values, not actual attributes. Eliezarry's not doing particular WELL at it but I can certainly see where this might seem like more of a whiney Slytherin reaction than a whiney Ravenclaw reaction.

(And in 'fairness' Snape is saying "the vice dark-lord you're threatening to have fire me is not going to do that because he's my best friend.")

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

JosephWongKS posted:

Why is it so surprising that Eliezarry didn’t get Sorted into Slytherin House? Slytherins are supposed to be “cunning” (according to the Sorting Hat’s song); impulse-driven open confrontation with a far older, far more experienced, far more connected authority figure hardly seems to be “cunning”.
All of the idiots who brag about their 1600 SAT scores and 2.8 GPA and refuse to study who then work some really lovely undergrad coding job would get sorted into Ravenclaw because they value intelligence, even if they're not actually "smart". Neville's whole deal (iirc, its been a while since I read HP) is that he really, really wants to be brave even if he isn't, so he gets in to Gryffindor.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Ravenfood posted:

All of the idiots who brag about their 1600 SAT scores and 2.8 GPA and refuse to study who then work some really lovely undergrad coding job would get sorted into Ravenclaw because they value intelligence, even if they're not actually "smart". Neville's whole deal (iirc, its been a while since I read HP) is that he really, really wants to be brave even if he isn't, so he gets in to Gryffindor.
Nah. The house system in the original is poo poo (not even going into HP's weird Calvinistic predestination morality), and the sorting of the heroes (edit - an actually putting some minimal thought into things so that each house has a set of virtues that are ostensibly apparent in the story) in this fanfic is one of the few storytelling improvements that makes complete sense.

Xander77 fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Apr 14, 2016

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Ravenfood posted:

All of the idiots who brag about their 1600 SAT scores and 2.8 GPA and refuse to study who then work some really lovely undergrad coding job would get sorted into Ravenclaw because they value intelligence, even if they're not actually "smart". Neville's whole deal (iirc, its been a while since I read HP) is that he really, really wants to be brave even if he isn't, so he gets in to Gryffindor.

It's also a matter of potential, too. Neville has it in him to be brave. The fact that he's survived all his family put him through looking for magic out of him and isn't full on traumatized shows it.

Cavelcade
Dec 9, 2015

I'm actually a boy!



Liquid Communism posted:

It's also a matter of potential, too. Neville has it in him to be brave. The fact that he's survived all his family put him through looking for magic out of him and isn't full on traumatized shows it.

It's also a matter of choice. Neville really wanted to be in Gryffindor. If it's enough for Harry, why wouldn't it be enough for him?

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
I figure the sorting hat is more like a sophisticated mood ring, or at best a talented cold-reader, with a little detection magic and centuries of experience to help it out. Like a good fortune teller it probes a little bit and then tells you what you want to hear. Shocking that all of the aristocratic pure-bloods are all obsessed with skullduggery and nothing else, yeah? The hat is there mainly to help place outliers and the undecided. If you already know where you're going, it's not gonna stop you.

E: when the hat is stumped or doesn't like your stupid face, Hufflepuff.

Pvt.Scott fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Apr 14, 2016

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110
The sorting makes sense as an idea but it was written by someone who didn't care a giant amount about analyzing the houses so for the most part everyone is cool but slytherin.

The idea of all the Hitler youth self-sorting into the same house makes sense though, and I think I remember jk saying she regretted not making any good slytherins?

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



The original is really simple. There's a house for smart people. Unless they're heroic smart people, in which case they go into the heroic house. There's a house for the bad guys. And then there's the house for everyone else. Makes perfect sense, really.

Any kind of thought given to the issue, any sort of differentiation between the houses, sorting the heroes into different houses and (ostensibly) making a point about cooperation - pretty much anything is an improvement.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Chapter 18: Dominance Hierarchies
Part Eight


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Severus's voice laughed. "What do you intend to do about it, little boy?"

Harry took six long strides forward away from the door, until he was standing near the back row of desks.

Then Harry drew himself upright and raised his right hand in one terrible motion, fingers poised to snap.

Neville screamed and dived under his desk. Other children shrank back or instinctively raised their arms to shield themselves.

"Harry don't! " shrieked Hermione. "Whatever you were going to do to him, don't do it!"

"Have you all gone mad? " barked Severus's voice.

Slowly, Harry lowered his hand. "I wasn't going to hurt him, Hermione," Harry said, his voice a little lower. "I was just going to blow up the door."


Sure you were just going to blow up the door.


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Though now that Harry remembered it, you weren't supposed to Transfigure things that were to be burned, which meant that going back in time afterward and getting Fred or George to Transfigure some carefully measured amount of explosives might not actually have been such a good idea...

"Silencio," said Severus's voice.

Harry tried to say "What?" and found that no sound was coming out.

"This has become ridiculous. I think you've been allowed to get yourself in enough trouble for one day, Potter. You are the most disruptive and unruly student I have ever seen, and I don't recall how many points Ravenclaw has right now, but I'm sure I can manage to wipe them all out. Ten points from Ravenclaw. Ten points from Ravenclaw. Ten points from Ravenclaw! Fifty points from Ravenclaw! Now sit down and watch the rest of the class take their lesson!"


It’s uncharacteristic of Snape to allow Eliezarry to physically remain in the class after the latter essentially threatened to cause physical / magical harm to a teacher.


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Harry put his hand into his pouch and tried to say 'marker' but of course no words came out. For one brief moment that stopped him; and then it occurred to Harry to spell out M-A-R-K-E-R using finger motions, which worked. P-A-D and he had a pad of paper. Harry strode over to an empty desk, not the one he'd originally sat down in, and scrawled a brief message. He tore off that sheet of paper, put away the marker and pad in a pocket of his robes for quicker access, and held up his message, not to Snape, but to the rest of the class.

I'M LEAVING
DOES ANYONE ELSE
NEED TO GET OUT?

"You're insane, Potter," Severus said with cold contempt.

Aside from that, no one spoke.

Harry swept an ironic bow to the teacher's desk, walked over to the wall, and with one smooth motion yanked open a closet door, stepped in, and slammed the door shut behind him.

There was the muffled sound of someone snapping his fingers, and then nothing.

In the classroom, students looked at each other in puzzlement and fear.

The Potions Master's face was now completely enraged. He crossed the room in terrible strides and yanked open the closet door.

The closet was empty.


What’s the point of all this conflict, or any conflict, if Eliezarry’s just going to resolve it with the Time-Turner Ex Machina? Rowling took the Time-Turner from Hermione by the end of Book 2; is Eliezarry going to keep his for the rest of the series?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


JosephWongKS posted:

What’s the point of all this conflict, or any conflict, if Eliezarry’s just going to resolve it with the Time-Turner Ex Machina? Rowling took the Time-Turner from Hermione by the end of Book 2; is Eliezarry going to keep his for the rest of the series?

There's two ways this could actually serve a purpose. Either Eliezarry gets into more trouble than he otherwise would have because of these shenanigans and learns to control himself (or at least be more subtle), or he suffers no consequences due to being the chosen one and learns he can get away with anything, which gets him into some serious trouble that he can't get out of later. I don't think either of those things happen here, I'm pretty sure this is meant to be a comedy/wish fulfilment section, like "wouldn't it have been awesome if you could have showed up that one mean teacher when you were at school?"

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Tiggum posted:

There's two ways this could actually serve a purpose. Either Eliezarry gets into more trouble than he otherwise would have because of these shenanigans and learns to control himself (or at least be more subtle), or he suffers no consequences due to being the chosen one and learns he can get away with anything, which gets him into some serious trouble that he can't get out of later. I don't think either of those things happen here, I'm pretty sure this is meant to be a comedy/wish fulfilment section, like "wouldn't it have been awesome if you could have showed up that one mean teacher when you were at school?"

yep. this section is entirely Resentful Nerd Porn. And everyone clapped.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Nah he actually does get some pretty serious consequences for misusing the Time Turner, though they get worked around or something.

Added Space
Jul 13, 2012

Free Markets
Free People

Curse you Hayard-Gunnes!

The Shortest Path posted:

Nah he actually does get some pretty serious consequences for misusing the Time Turner, though they get worked around or something.

The "consequences" are that he gets to keep it, and a mildly effective lock is added.

Cavelcade
Dec 9, 2015

I'm actually a boy!



Added Space posted:

The "consequences" are that he gets to keep it, and a mildly effective lock is added.

Which eventually results in disaster for the school, rather than Harry. (Well, I guess also Harry but the blame is placed on the school.)

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Added Space posted:

The "consequences" are that he gets to keep it, and a mildly effective lock is added.

He takes a major blow to his pride and ego from the one person he holds any respect for other than Quirrel.

It's a consequence in Yud terms.

Lordbaldur
Apr 25, 2016
the truth about harry potter is that its highly biblically allegorical and that harry potter can be interepreted as some sort of jesus figure(?) i suppose...

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



JosephWongKS posted:

Rowling took the Time-Turner from Hermione by the end of Book 2; is Eliezarry going to keep his for the rest of the series?[/b]
3, aka "the first book it appeared in".

...

Actually, I might say that it's underutilized.

*Gasp* *Shock* *Horror*

But seriously. When such a game-breaking item as "go back in time at will" is introduced, and you actually drawn attention to it in your fanfic, you'll need to either:

1. Fanwank some sort of a reason for why the time turner can't be used to pretty much do everything and anything, then move on with the goddamned story.

2. Roll with it, and just focus the story around the time turner, and how Harry uses it to take over the universe or whatever.

Eliezer starts going with option 2 for a while but (just like every goddamned plot thread and theme, introduced and soon abandoned) quickly lets it go, and large portions of the later story forget about time-turners or hastily explain why they can't be used.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Don't forget that Rowling also wrote in the Ministry's entire stock of the things getting rendered useless during the battle in the Department of Mysteries as well, to make sure there wasn't an obvious Deus Ex Machina handy.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Liquid Communism posted:

Don't forget that Rowling also wrote in the Ministry's entire stock of the things getting rendered useless during the battle in the Department of Mysteries as well, to make sure there wasn't an obvious Deus Ex Machina handy.

Mmm. She also later elaborated on Pottermore and interviews that a) if you managed to actually pull off doing anything directly paradoxical and not consistent with the established timeline (which to be fair usually has to be very deliberate), some really nasty poo poo tends to go down, usually involving your loss of existence as a minimum, and b) all time travel magic is basically limited to five hours maximum.

The last time someone tried to time travel back more than five hours, she was flung way too far back, was trapped for a week in 1402, aged five centuries in an instant on returning, a few dozen people spontaneously became un-born, the following tuesday lasted three days, and thursday four hours, and they're still not sure what else went wrong.

As a result of both of these, the Ministry tends to just use them for trivial time-management and bureaucratic organisational purposes, because that's how the Ministry rolls. :shrug:

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Apr 30, 2016

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

I could see Barty Crouch pass himself from three hours in the future in the corridor and just say "Evening, Crouch."

Dalris Othaine
Oct 14, 2013

I think, therefore I am inevitable.

MikeJF posted:

The last time someone tried to time travel back more than five hours, she was flung way too far back, was trapped for a week in 1402, aged five centuries in an instant on returning, a few dozen people spontaneously became un-born, the following tuesday lasted three days, and thursday four hours, and they're still not sure what else went wrong.

See, I actually like that bit of canon. It's severe enough to be reasonable that people wouldn't gently caress with thee things too much and still just silly enough to keep the whimsy of the original series. Rowling gets a lot of poo poo, but she's not bad at this.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Dabir posted:

I could see Barty Crouch pass himself from three hours in the future in the corridor and just say "Evening, Crouch."

I can also see Moody having an elaborate protocol for how to confirm to himself that he is actually himself but time shifted, so as not to accidentally self-terminate.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
For those looking to work off any surplus Yudkowsky-induced trauma, Phil Sandifer's book Neoreaction a Basilisk (which I copyedited and advised on) has just kickstarted. Blog post.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Can anyone explain to me why is it that I have two friends on facebook both recommending this dreck to me, but they both are STEM majors?

Pavlov
Oct 21, 2012

I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that

Crowsbeak posted:

Can anyone explain to me why is it that I have two friends on facebook both recommending this dreck to me, but they both are STEM majors?

Your friends are autistic. Also possibly members of a cult.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Crowsbeak posted:

Can anyone explain to me why is it that I have two friends on facebook both recommending this dreck to me, but they both are STEM majors?
It's weird that they recommended it to you on facebook. Do you not have a Reddit account?

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Crowsbeak posted:

Can anyone explain to me why is it that I have two friends on facebook both recommending this dreck to me, but they both are STEM majors?

Because STEM majors who haven't studied any philosophy, literature, or the actual scientific method (rather than blindly worshiping SCIENCE) but think they understand it are Yudkowsky's major source of followers.

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Pavlov posted:

Your friends are autistic. Also possibly members of a cult.
Well one is.

Piell posted:

Because STEM majors who haven't studied any philosophy, literature, or the actual scientific method (rather than blindly worshiping SCIENCE) but think they understand it are Yudkowsky's major source of followers.

I would say that the autistic one definitley has limited himself to "rationalism".

chrisoya posted:

It's weird that they recommended it to you on facebook. Do you not have a Reddit account?

Nope.

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