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ICA is portrayed really inconsistently throughout the series. In the early entries, they were sorta virtuous (and implicitly some sort of shadowy splinter of the British government). Back then the idea was that by cornering and controlling, and effectively regulating, the assassination market, they both turned a profit and were able to select contracts that didn't turn the world into a giant nuclear ball of fire. Your later missions in SA were taken from NATO specifically to deal with the fact that Sergei, your prior client, was destabilizing things too much by trying to exploit the ICA to get a nuke. Later depictions of ICA have been schizophrenic, especially EU books and stuff, where it's basically a conglomerate of every evil military thing imaginable and the assassination stuff is just a small fragment of their business. Random inner circles and directors come and go, and the organization seems to be in a state of internal war all the time. This was the stuff that got transferred into Absolution, which is why the agency suddenly has command center yachts, a cloning program, Battle Nunz, several small armies, supersoldiers, and robot hands. The Agency in HITMAN still seems more extensive than early depictions (that training facility, which I'm guessing we may be returning to), but it's not the freaking Shinra Corporation anymore.
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Discendo Vox posted:ICA is portrayed really inconsistently throughout the series. In the early entries, they were sorta virtuous (and implicitly some sort of shadowy splinter of the British government). Back then the idea was that by cornering and controlling, and effectively regulating, the assassination market, they both turned a profit and were able to select contracts that didn't turn the world into a giant nuclear ball of fire. Your later missions in SA were taken from NATO specifically to deal with the fact that Sergei, your prior client, was destabilizing things too much by trying to exploit the ICA to get a nuke. I actually like that idea better, that the ICA is shady but because they only really target rich assholes that had it coming or genuinely dangerous people for the most part the governments of the world tend to cast a blind eye. Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 16:35 on May 3, 2016 |
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May 3, 2016 16:32
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The idea is if you gotta kill somebody, you gotta pay ICA. That intelligent DNA virus would mean that hitmen in general were no longer needed, and "armchair assassins" (lol) would take over the market. ICA can't have a bunch of fat neckbeards programming DNA viruses taking over their bald clone assassin business. Most everybody you kill is a bad guy, as handwaiving to make 47 appear less of a bad guy, yeah. Although in this one (and sorta the last one too I think) you can make your own contracts to send to other people against whoever you want. So unless literally every single person at the Paris show is a very bad person, you're free to assassinate some innocents that way. Like, is the chef a really, really bad chef?  Discendo Vox posted:ICA is portrayed really inconsistently throughout the series. This game seems to be aware of that though, which is why it has a reboot feeling. But they're still keeping the past story there, so that's a good compromise. 47 did some poo poo for some other ICAs in the past that were weird, but now they're gone and there's a new ICA and welcome, you're new to it, and this is how things work now. They're aware that you've had "past training" and done operations for somebody else (past-ICA?) so its still canon, but effectively changing the rules and rebooting ICA.
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May 3, 2016 16:41
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Zaphod42 posted:Like, is the chef a really, really bad chef? Well he's three star and can't get spaghetti bolognese right, so I'd say he's worthy of getting bumped off.
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May 3, 2016 16:46
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Profanity posted:Well he's three star and can't get spaghetti bolognese right, so I'd say he's worthy of getting bumped off. I'm sure it tastes great but Caruso is so hung up on his dead mother that he complains regardless.
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May 3, 2016 16:53
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Basebf555 posted:I'm sure it tastes great but Caruso is so hung up on his dead mother that he complains regardless.
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May 3, 2016 16:55
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Accordion Man posted:The funny thing is that the description of the expired spaghetti cans hint that that Mrs. Caruso was just lying about her homemade recipe. Its also funny how Caruso only compliments the sauce if you put the expired can in. If you just make it normally he bitches and complains as usual. So who knows what Mrs. Caruso was doing with her recipe.
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May 3, 2016 16:56
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What makes the sauce even better is you can use it to knock everyone out by flinging it at them. I just really like throwing hammers and soda cans and pasta sauce at people, less of a Hitman and more of a Hit man.
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May 3, 2016 17:22
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Croccers posted:What makes the sauce even better is you can use it to knock everyone out by flinging it at them. I like that hitting someone in the head with a soda can apparently has the same force as smashing a brick over their head.
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May 3, 2016 17:26
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Croccers posted:What makes the sauce even better is you can use it to knock everyone out by flinging it at them. Chucking melee weapons at people's faces is pretty overpowered; but that in no way stops it from being my favorite pass time when I'm playing Hitman: Concuss the Locals.
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May 3, 2016 17:30
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What is the Toy Tank for??? Something to do with dressing up as the psychiatrist?
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May 3, 2016 17:31
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I've spent more time trying to find these 6 crocs to shoot then anything else by now. I'm at 4 now. So fun trying to explore and find them.
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May 3, 2016 17:39
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Zaphod42 posted:47 did some poo poo for some other ICAs in the past that were weird, but now they're gone and there's a new ICA and welcome, you're new to it, and this is how things work now. They're aware that you've had "past training" and done operations for somebody else (past-ICA?) so its still canon, but effectively changing the rules and rebooting ICA. It's the same ICA, 47 just killed one of the nebulously defined administrators (who had gone off the reservation and was working against the rest of the organization), in Absolution. The training scenes from the tutorial were a flashback to what happened almost immediately after Asylum Escape in the first game.
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May 3, 2016 17:48
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Jintor posted:
'Eh, there was that amusement park owner from the tutorial in Blood Money.
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May 3, 2016 18:30
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Nckdictator posted:'Eh, there was that amusement park owner from the tutorial in Blood Money. Didn't the amusement park end up killing a bunch of kids because of bad maintenance and he covered it up or something? I remember there being some reasoning for him being eeeeeevil so it was okay.
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May 3, 2016 18:36
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Zaphod42 posted:Didn't the amusement park end up killing a bunch of kids because of bad maintenance and he covered it up or something? Yep, that was it
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May 3, 2016 18:38
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Zaphod42 posted:Didn't the amusement park end up killing a bunch of kids because of bad maintenance and he covered it up or something? Yeah, it's bad, but not "Meat-King's Party" or "generic-evil-Russian" bad.
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May 3, 2016 18:55
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"Impossible to connect to the Hitman server. A network error..." etc. Jesus goddamn christ. Everything else is working fine. I was hoping they would patch it in so you could get unlocks when offline (or at least, that they would trigger the first time you go online) but nope. I finished the level a couple ways, then went back online, got kicked off after 15 minutes, and it's like I never did anything. Edit: by everything, I mean all other internet connections to anywhere. Hitman itself is broke as hell. Saladman fucked around with this message at 19:26 on May 3, 2016 |
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May 3, 2016 19:09
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I like how just shifting through menus takes 10 seconds.
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May 3, 2016 19:14
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Before the last few patches, just bringing up the opportunities menu would take at least ten seconds. But seriously props to IO for updating the game!
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May 3, 2016 19:39
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Main menu won't load for me right now. It connects fine, but sits there for a while before giving an error that the data couldn't load.
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May 4, 2016 00:01
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Same! Might explain why me finishing a mission unlocked no challenges whatsoever. My saves were apparently online though, so guess I'll just load up the last one and refinish the mission next time.
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May 4, 2016 00:23
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status posted:Main menu won't load for me right now. It connects fine, but sits there for a while before giving an error that the data couldn't load. Same, game is completely unplayable. That's pretty impressive considering just yesterday it was running fine. IO fix your poo poo.
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May 4, 2016 01:20
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Wow, that's loving hilarious. Not being able to load the game's own menus prevents you from playing the game.Odobenidae posted:Based on my experiences with the menu and my lovely internet I'm guessing that each and every picture in the menu is loaded from the game's servers every single time you need it, rather than having you install them with the rest of the game. Square Enix is not a stranger to making the worst decisions possible when it comes to this "always online" horseshit so I wouldn't be surprised if I was right. Morzhovyye fucked around with this message at 01:38 on May 4, 2016 |
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May 4, 2016 01:23
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I wonder if it's because the server that fills the menu with contracts/whatever is spitting out garbage that the game doesn't know what to do with so it gives up.
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May 4, 2016 01:29
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I didn't run into any problems previously, but now with the PC servers down the game is basically unplayable, so I totally get it
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May 4, 2016 02:16
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Still ain't working from my end. Huh.
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May 4, 2016 07:22
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can play offline consoles win again
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I feel bad for IO because I'd bet you that Square was the one that hoisted the online poo poo on them.
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May 4, 2016 07:56
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Contracts mode is non-canon tho. well it's all non-canon or weird canon or something i guess
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May 4, 2016 12:59
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frank.club posted:can play offline consoles win again I got it to let me play offline on PC by waiting around enough eventually (dumb) but then I pulled off a sick first assassination on the Italy map, did some really cool poo poo and took my time, and then I complete the level only to see "offline mode means no progress, challenges, story, progression, etc." and its like I may as well not have even done it. And all my saves are now marked as offline only so I can't even load them up and finish it when the servers return. So there's huge incentive against playing at all if the servers are down. Thanks IO.
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Accordion Man posted:New Hitman also goes with the ICA being a bit on the level, because MI6 is the client for the Paris mission, and I don't think the British government would be willing to work with them if they were still COBRA. Maybe I'm a cynical bastard but I just imagine that the ICA spends 99% of its time killing poor whistleblowers and activists on behalf of the G8 and only sends 47 for stuff that's an actual challenge.
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May 4, 2016 17:09
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The street performer disguise is the only thing befitting a master assassin. Really wish I could just go ahead and start with rat poison. Maybe a later level will unlock it.
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May 4, 2016 22:48
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That is one thing I like the idea of. Being able to monthly unlock some new toys to take back and dick around in the earlier levels with, too.
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May 5, 2016 02:44
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Not being able to modify weapons sucks. I want a silenced sniper with 2x zoom 
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May 5, 2016 02:57
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Good Lord Fisher! posted:That is one thing I like the idea of. Being able to monthly unlock some new toys to take back and dick around in the earlier levels with, too. You can start with the lethal poison now, it's possible to poison Novikov's bare knuckle boxer without his wife's cyanide.
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status posted:Not being able to modify weapons sucks. I want a silenced sniper with 2x zoom That was one thing awesome about Blood Money. All the mods that you could add.
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May 5, 2016 03:05
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Do they explain anywhere what all the icons on weapon and equipment mean (and what "custom" means?) Some are self evident, but I have no clue about others.
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status posted:Not being able to modify weapons sucks. I want a silenced sniper with 2x zoom Fuuuuuck. Did they at least bring the suitcase back?
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Castor Poe posted:Fuuuuuck. Not yet, but they put out a questionnaire asking on a scale of 1 to 10 how much we wanted the suitcase back, so it'll probably get patched in with a future episode.
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