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kcroy posted:I was going to tell my mom that the timeline didn't make sense ( 281-283 is too long, seed aint that strong, etc ). But when I looked at this: Why do you say things like "fam", "dog" and "moms"?
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kcroy posted:I was going to tell my mom that the timeline didn't make sense ( 281-283 is too long, seed aint that strong, etc ). But when I looked at this: Jeffrey of YOSPOS fucked around with this message at 14:42 on May 7, 2016 |
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May 7, 2016 14:01
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But Dany was born at Dragonstone with the last of the royal Targaryen court in attendance. AFTER King Aerys, Rhaegar, Lyanna, Ellia Martell and her kids, and all of the Targ loyalists in King's Landing were dead. That's the most retarded theory ever.
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May 7, 2016 14:12
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kcroy posted:I was going to tell my mom that the timeline didn't make sense ( 281-283 is too long, seed aint that strong, etc ). But when I looked at this: 20 years to write 3 years w2g gurm
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May 7, 2016 16:56
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Liquid Communism posted:Did the sequel ever get finished? Consider, for a moment, the thread in which you're asking that question.
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May 7, 2016 17:32
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:But Dany was born at Dragonstone with the last of the royal Targaryen court in attendance. Yeah, people who don't understand Dany would be Jon's aunt amuse the poo poo out of me.
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May 7, 2016 18:17
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:For this you need Preston Jacobs tower of joy videos. He says funny poo poo like "supporters of R + L = J really like the idea of the battle of bells being in the third month" and "based on his naming scheme, Rhaegar was expecting a daughter Visenya". He does these estimates using army marching distances. His personal theory is that Rhaegar + Lyanna = Danaerys. As crazy as that guy's stuff is, the most mental thing is that he'd use evidence that assumes GRRM has a grasp of numbers, distances and measurements.
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May 7, 2016 18:20
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esperterra posted:Yeah, people who don't understand Dany would be Jon's aunt amuse the poo poo out of me. It's stupid, but I can see that the confusion comes in because they're roughly the same age. Most people's think of their aunts and uncles at 20 - 40 years older than they are.
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May 7, 2016 18:47
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Mnemosyne posted:It's stupid, but I can see that the confusion comes in because they're roughly the same age. Most people's think of their aunts and uncles at 20 - 40 years older than they are. I have 2nd cousins who are older than me so I never really thought too hard about it, myself. Big families have weird age gaps.
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May 7, 2016 19:22
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:But Dany was born at Dragonstone with the last of the royal Targaryen court in attendance. Obviously it's predicated on the idea that she isn't the real Daenerys, which is backed up by a concerning amount of evidence. Preston's "lemon trees lemon trees" sounds ridiculous until you remember the excessively pointed conversation about citrus availability between two Bravosi guardsmen. Personally I prescribe to the "Gurm wrote six options for every 'mystery' so he could change it if people guessed' theory. Of course now he's taken so loving long we've guessed everything so he has nothing to write.
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May 7, 2016 19:28
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mossyfisk posted:Obviously it's predicated on the idea that she isn't the real Daenerys, which is backed up by a concerning amount of evidence. Preston's "lemon trees lemon trees" sounds ridiculous until you remember the excessively pointed conversation about citrus availability between two Bravosi guardsmen. Can you quote me this conversation it's not ringing any bells, at all.
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May 7, 2016 20:29
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:But Dany was born at Dragonstone with the last of the royal Targaryen court in attendance. Don't forget her now-dead brother. He was sure as poo poo petty enough to tell Dany "you're a bastard you aren't my sister you're my bastard niece" repeatedly. Mnemosyne posted:It's stupid, but I can see that the confusion comes in because they're roughly the same age. Most people's think of their aunts and uncles at 20 - 40 years older than they are. I have an uncle 14 years older than me and my youngest cousin is 16 years younger than me. 
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May 7, 2016 20:32
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I have an uncle that's 2 years older than me. And his kid is younger than mine.
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May 7, 2016 21:50
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it's weird as gently caress when people have families like that.
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May 7, 2016 22:08
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Liquid Communism posted:Did the sequel ever get finished? We couldn't even decide on the name.
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May 7, 2016 22:19
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My first cousin is like 40 and I'm 22. Age can be confusing.
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May 7, 2016 22:32
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Possibly Chicken posted:My first cousin is like 40 and I'm 22. Age can be confusing. I'm 31 and my waifu is 1000, poo poo happens.
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May 7, 2016 23:04
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Krinkle posted:Can you quote me this conversation it's not ringing any bells, at all. It's not guards it's Lem Lemoncloack asking the tavern keeper at that inn to cook the duck Anguy hunted with Lemons to which she responds that lemons don't grow that far north. Braavos is as at a much northern latitude than the river lands. The thing is that I think it's easier to attribute Dany's apparently false memory as just grrm messing up.
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May 8, 2016 00:00
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Why do you say things like "fam", "dog" and "moms"? tbh fam idk
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May 8, 2016 00:01
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Tyrion explicitly says "wow everyone in this city that's rich enough just buys a stupid tree that can't possibly grow naturally in this climate and builds a huge wall around it so nobody else can see it" when he visits bravos so who gives a poo poo? It's case loving closed as far as I am concerned. She hid out at bravos for a while. Who cares?
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May 8, 2016 00:05
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Tyrion was never in Braavos? There's talk about the palace of the sealord and a few mansions had a few trees but generally Braavos is known to be pretty barren and harsh for vegetation. Moreover Dany doesn't describe the house she grew in as a mansion, she also remembers barefooted kids playing outside which again doesn't suggest a walled off mansion. There's some appeal to the 'Dany was raised in Dorne' theory, though a goof is most likely. Even if Dany was raised in Dorne it doesn't really mean anything as far as has parentage is concerned, Preston's ToJ nonsense is really embarrassingly stupid. It's pretty cool d&d are gonna destroy that theory during the next couple of monthsS
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May 8, 2016 00:24
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Junkenstein posted:As crazy as that guy's stuff is, the most mental thing is that he'd use evidence that assumes GRRM has a grasp of numbers, distances and measurements. Seriously this. He's no loving tolkien who wrote entire languages for backstory. GRRM doesn't work that way. I'd be very surprised if he worked out the distances of any battles from each other. I mean it would be cool if the backstory was that rich, but IMO there is a certain resolution ( like in terms of pixels ) and zooming in past a certain point doesn't get you anything.
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May 8, 2016 00:24
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kcroy posted:tbh fam idk 
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May 8, 2016 00:27
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kcroy posted:Seriously this. He's no loving tolkien who wrote entire languages for backstory. GRRM doesn't work that way. I'd be very surprised if he worked out the distances of any battles from each other. I mean it would be cool if the backstory was that rich, but IMO there is a certain resolution ( like in terms of pixels ) and zooming in past a certain point doesn't get you anything. What's a decent size wall? LIke, 30 ft is a big wall. How big is that? gently caress it, 500 ft is definitely big, no-one can say it ain't. How big is a big dude? Like 6'6"? How about like, the BIGGEST dude? 7'? Okay sure yeah but instead what about an 8' guy yeah that's awesome.
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If any of you think the ToJ scene in the show is going to confirm Jon's parentage, you are going to be very disappointed.
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lol this rules
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Kylaer posted:Consider, for a moment, the thread in which you're asking that question. That's why I'm asking. It's deliciously meta.
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I, personally, am convinced that there's something weird about Dany's childhood and that the red door and lemon tree stuff is significant.
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TommyGun85 posted:If any of you think the ToJ scene in the show is going to confirm Jon's parentage, you are going to be very disappointed. What would the point of showing the ToJ if you're not going to show Jon's parentage? Just because they thought people want to see Ned have a swordfight? It's not like show watchers even really know who Arthur Dayne is, so it's not for him.
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May 8, 2016 05:17
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We'll get the reveal at the end of the season, just before Dany gives a rousing speech about taking her new found Dothraki army to save Meereen.
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TommyGun85 posted:If any of you think the ToJ scene in the show is going to confirm Jon's parentage, you are going to be very disappointed. I'm not holding out for them showing it to us this next episode, but some time this season. I don't see why the would even show the scene if not for that. It literally hasn't been referenced at all before in the show (IIRC), and unless they REALLY want to show us Howland Reed broing around with Ned I don't get the point. IT BEGINS fucked around with this message at 05:38 on May 8, 2016 |
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May 8, 2016 05:35
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Solice Kirsk posted:We'll get the reveal at the end of the season, just before Dany gives a rousing speech about taking her new found Dothraki army to save Meereen. Gotta save that budget for a quick conclusion scene at the beginning of each season. Whole season of Tyrion and Varys walking around an empty city, season ends with them surrounded by Harpies. Season seven starts with a thirty second fight scene and then back to business.
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May 8, 2016 05:48
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Mnemosyne posted:What would the point of showing the ToJ if you're not going to show Jon's parentage? Just because they thought people want to see Ned have a swordfight? It's not like show watchers even really know who Arthur Dayne is, so it's not for him.
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May 8, 2016 05:48
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Bran is just about to penetrate meera as hodor when he has a vision showing that they are cousins. He doesn't stop.
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May 8, 2016 05:49
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Bran is just about to penetrate meera as hodor when he has a vision showing that they are cousins. He doesn't stop. Well if he's warged into Hodor, it's all cool. Hodor isn't her cousin.
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May 8, 2016 05:58
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Solice Kirsk posted:We'll get the reveal at the end of the season, just before Dany gives a rousing speech about taking her new found Dothraki army to save Meereen. They could split the TOJ scene up over multiple episodes... remember that whole "you can only stay for 10 seconds" bullshit... yeah it is there for a reason.
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May 8, 2016 06:40
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Mnemosyne posted:Well if he's warged into Hodor, it's all cool. Hodor isn't her cousin. I still think we will have a Ghost fucks Nymeria while both Jon/Arya are warged in scene in the book.
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Cavelcade posted:What's a decent size wall? LIke, 30 ft is a big wall. How big is that? gently caress it, 500 ft is definitely big, no-one can say it ain't. I mean that is cool right? winter lasts 10 years! he writes loving fantasy - he shouldn't have to come up with the science behind it, or whatever. One of my favorite books had a money problem.. like the guy gets paid in gold, but later on you realize gold isn't valuable enough, and then in another book it is TOO valuable, etc etc. you can't get bogged down in that poo poo - forest for the trees and all that. So it bugs me when people read in super loving deep like preston does, because you don't have any assurance that the author is accurate at that depth. It's more like a water color painting, and less like a loving photo, you know?
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kcroy posted:I still think we will have a Ghost fucks Nymeria while both Jon/Arya are warged in scene in the book. 
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