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ImpAtom posted:Bravely Second is a direct sequel, it spoils the plot of the entire first game in the opening. That said it has new cast members and a new villian but some of the plot points won't have the same impact without recognizing them from the first game.. If you only were going to play one I'd play Bravely Second but going Bravely Default -> Like 6 months or something -> Bravely Second is probably ideal. BS right after BD would probably burn you out. Ah thanks for explaining, I'll play them in order then.
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NikkolasKing posted:If you want to play Triple Triad, just make sure to consult a guide on how to change the rules. Trust me, you don'twant to play with Random. Random can be alright if you're refining all your bad cards anyway
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Tempo 119 posted:Random can be alright if you're refining all your bad cards anyway until you win a tri-face or whatever and can't refine them until you win 9 more
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May 8, 2016 07:29
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Fingers McLongDong posted:So just skip straight to bravely second? Or are they direct sequels? you should skip to the sequel because bd1 is only half a game and it all gets reused in bd2
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May 8, 2016 07:45
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Yeah, I'm working through Bravely Default 2 right now and I can't come up with a meaningful reason to bother playing the first one. Like even the neatish twist takes so long for the game to admit to it'll wear you down long before you should just quit playing it and start the sequel.
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May 8, 2016 08:57
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The boss fights are really good.
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Barudak posted:Yeah, I'm working through Bravely Default 2 right now and I can't come up with a meaningful reason to bother playing the first one. Like even the neatish twist takes so long for the game to admit to it'll wear you down long before you should just quit playing it and start the sequel. Chapter 7 and 8 of BD have the best boss fights of both games.
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May 8, 2016 09:31
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Yeah, the optional bosses in the last couple chapters are really amazing and some of the most fun I've had with RPG boss fights.
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May 8, 2016 09:43
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I liked the story/cast quite a bit in BD1 even with its warts. More the villains than the heroes, but it was a fun time.
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The story really isn't the same at all, characterizations are very different, the sidequest stuff isn't the same, lots of enemy/boss differences that you can't chalk up that much to reuse, different classes and balancing. There's actually quite a bit different from Second that separates it despite the same systems. I actually am missing a lot of things from Default the more and more I play Second. Like Impatom said, I'd agree that it's worth going through the first cause it does have it's own unique things to experience, but just take a small break between playing the 2 games to avoid a burnout.
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May 8, 2016 15:39
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I just read the boss description for the two-headed worm boss you fight in Bravely Second and what the actual gently caress guys Who writes these games? Are they okay? How can so cheery and bright a game have so much horrifying poo poo in it?
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May 8, 2016 16:01
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I just read the boss description for the two-headed worm boss you fight in Bravely Second and what the actual gently caress guys
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May 8, 2016 17:22
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The main thing I miss going from BD to BS is the normal battle theme. That thing was excellent. Also the best enemy description (so far) is the striped rabbit one.
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from what i played of the demo all of the music is a step down I dunno whatever the boss music in Second is supposed to be but it is no That Person's Name Is... that's for sure
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May 9, 2016 00:49
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8-Bit Scholar posted:How can so cheery and bright a game have so much horrifying poo poo in it? Like...pretty much everything in the Florem arc of the first game was abjectly horrifying.
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May 9, 2016 01:10
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Final Fantasy X is one of the more brightest and colorful jrpgs and it's arguably the most grim and hopeless world.
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Tae posted:Final Fantasy X is one of the more brightest and colorful jrpgs and it's arguably the most grim and hopeless world. FFX has both the best and the most Final Fantasy of settings, Spira forever 
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my favorite part in ffx is the scene where the party goes to bevelle to tell maester mika that they've killed yunalesca and his immediate response to them telling him this information is to say "gently caress this we're all doomed" and then proceeds to send himself that part was too good
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I dunno, VII had a pretty grim setting. Outside of the Gold Saucer, Costa Del Sol, Cosmo Canyon and... Kalm? Most places had a whole bunch of problems, especially the cesspool that is Midgar. Plus the lack of visible transportation must be terrible advertising for places like Bone Village and that ski resort in the middle of nowhere. I can't actually remember, was it ever explained why it's perpetually dark in Midgar? Even in the upper areas of the city it's universally night.
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ApplesandOranges posted:I dunno, VII had a pretty grim setting. Outside of the Gold Saucer, Costa Del Sol, Cosmo Canyon and... Kalm? Most places had a whole bunch of problems, especially the cesspool that is Midgar. Gold Saucer is built atop a slave labor camp, Costa del Sol is a resort town for the same executives bleeding the world dry, and Kalm is being driven to the edge of poverty by Mako energy obsoleting their main source of income. Shinra's got its tentacles everywhere, except Cosmo Canyon, which is nice and chill.
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ApplesandOranges posted:I can't actually remember, was it ever explained why it's perpetually dark in Midgar? Even in the upper areas of the city it's universally night. I always figured it was sheer smog, which ties in with the hellblight the size of western Europe surrounding it. Of course, the hellblight could be due to the eight mako reactors.
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ApplesandOranges posted:I dunno, VII had a pretty grim setting. Outside of the Gold Saucer, Costa Del Sol, Cosmo Canyon and... Kalm? Most places had a whole bunch of problems, especially the cesspool that is Midgar. That's a good question, and my first instinct would be to say that it's obviously from all the smog that the mako plants produce, but... they don't? Mako energy seems to be pretty "clean". Everyone was burning coal and oil before mako came around.
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I could be totally off, but IIRC you're only above the plate once or twice - it wouldn't be completely impossible to call it a coincidence.
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AlphaKretin posted:I could be totally off, but IIRC you're only above the plate once or twice - it wouldn't be completely impossible to call it a coincidence. And most of those times you're trying to commit crimes, so it's not unreasonable to assume you they choose to go at night on purpose. I'm pretty sure it's mostly a stylistic thing, like how it's always night in Blade Runner.
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Mega64 posted:Could you summarize his summary? Bonus points if your summary is longer than his. I just did 
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ApplesandOranges posted:I can't actually remember, was it ever explained why it's perpetually dark in Midgar? Even in the upper areas of the city it's universally night.
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I think it's just a stylistic choice, because you get a lot of sunlight filtering through in the church and near Aeris's house.
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Tae posted:Final Fantasy X is one of the more brightest and colorful jrpgs and it's arguably the most grim and hopeless world. It's pretty cool to see a corrupt jrpg church based on Buddhism instead of Christianity.
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MonsieurChoc posted:It's pretty cool to see a corrupt jrpg church based on Buddhism instead of Christianity. uhh Bevelle is literally the Vatican?
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https://twitter.com/Ryyudo/status/729340781111074816
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The Yevon Church is more like a mishmash of various different religions really. The temples from Shinto, rituals and aesthetic in the temples from Buddhism, the pilgrimage from Islam and the doctrine and heirarchy from Catholicism.
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May 9, 2016 09:53
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gently caress you my religion lets me save my game
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Gonna pray for more HP. Oh wait God ain't got poo poo on Curaja gently caress you God.
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Curaja will, in fact, help you even as you and your group of teenage friends are killing God.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:The Yevon Church is more like a mishmash of various different religions really. The temples from Shinto, rituals and aesthetic in the temples from Buddhism, the pilgrimage from Islam and the doctrine and heirarchy from Catholicism. And let's not pretend like Buddhism/Taoism/Confucianism/Hinduism have not in the past held roles of authority and had firm hierarchies and corruption and power-grabs and poo poo like that. Religion + government power = fuckery. Given the cycle of death in Spira is sort of a grimdark interpretation of death and reincarnation within Eastern tradition and the main character is awakened (or, say, enlightened) from a dream world, after which he finds himself protecting a sage on a long pilgrimage to save the entire world from suffering. It's like a Journey to the West meets Godzilla and Grave of the Fireflies.
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God pimped outmy robot which allowed me to kill the other god. But when it comes to FF, I don't think we've ever killed "God." We've killed gods and would-be gods but never the big Capital G God. Wait, I forgot about Bhunivelze. But even then, I always heard FFXIII drew more inspiration from Shinto than Christianity. After all, the whole "Bhunivelze had a mom just like everyone else but then he killed her" isn't very in line with Abrahamic God.
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The pantheon in FFXIII is generic Gnosticism with a critical head injury.
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NikkolasKing posted:God pimped outmy robot which allowed me to kill the other god. The list of games where you kill god with a capital G is like Xenogears and maybe one of the SMT games.
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I think it's like SMT1 where you kill YHWH, and is part of the reason NOA refused to touch it and the series took a long time to make its way overseas.
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