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peter gabriel posted:If you ever see my arguing about video games at 8.08am just shoot me please "i am very upset that my drugs ran out half an hour ago, furthermore you are wrong because"
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Octal posted:Croberts has a plan to get this game done....soon we will be able to upload our consciousness to a computer so he will do that numerous times and have the development team he needs... Zero multiplied by a hundred is still zero.
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SelenicMartian posted:Good url Can someone make a gif of Roberts pissing out ships?
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FailAtMagic posted:Zero multiplied by a hundred is still zero. Their handwaving could generate enough wind to power a small city
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SomethingJones posted:Tldr's As much as those guys make me want to punch them the dick, I still think you should be comparing transcripts to transcripts since they post those at the same time, which are still a little more glossy since they umm, drop all the err umm ya know, like filler words and stuff :waveshands: Naturally the tl;dr's are subject to 'interpretation'... maybe we can come up with better tl;dr's that don't gloss over poo poo to compare them with? For me it loses all shock value this way and is pretty easily countered by believers with 2 brain cells left they can rub together.
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so i saw someone with a star citizen hat on walking down the street today that's my story thanks for taking my call
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Reharakhti posted:I've made some vital improvements as well: Commando Spacecatte and the Stimperial Immersion. Loving it.
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Thoatse posted:As much as those guys make me want to punch them the dick, I still think you should be comparing transcripts to transcripts since they post those at the same time, which are still a little more glossy since they umm, drop all the err umm ya know, like filler words and stuff :waveshands: even if their transcripts are accurate, it wouldn't Change the fact that their tl;drs have a shitload of spin on them.
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Thoatse posted:As much as those guys make me want to punch them the dick, I still think you should be comparing transcripts to transcripts since they post those at the same time, which are still a little more glossy since they umm, drop all the err umm ya know, like filler words and stuff :waveshands: The TLDRs on the INN site are front and centre, posted directly underneath the videos. They're presented as being TLDRs but they contain none of the caveats and some of them directly contradict what was said. The MVP question is a one example of that, the 'work being done' vs 'we have a plan' is another. The fake TLDRs are what visitors to the site read:  Look at that, the poor guy reads the TLDRs RELIGIOUSLY. What I have done is make a TLDR from the 100% accurate transcripts, posting word for word what was said, and these are accurately representing the answers given. What INN has been posting as the TLDR version of the videos is nothing short of misprepresentation and lies. I totally take your point, and I'll definitely be comparing the full transcripts. This will do two things - it will show if their full transcripts are different in any significant way from what was said, and it will also show if they contradict INN's own TLDRs. There's another thing here worth bearing in mind, and it's a problem I ran into whilst doing this - have a look at this: From 10 for the Chairman: Episode 57 Mar 23, 2015 @ 04:00 Q: Can you provide us any additional information on how taxes in the game will work? A: Ok, soooo... uh, as far as the game goes, ehm, you know, the taxes will be fairly simple, uhm, the idea would be that they're sort of on... TRADE or CONSUMPTION so if you... LAND down on a planet you have to pay a, uh, a LANDING FEE and then... if you buy... you know, you... you... SELL STUFF, ehm, you basically will have to pay a SALES TAX or BUY STUFF you have to buy a... you know... there's... there's a VALUE ADDED TAX so, BASICALLY uhm, things... there'll be THINGS taxed on buying and SELLING and... and essentially landing is a kind of a tax, it's sort of a fee, uhm, and then ORGANISATIONS themselves will be able to have certain, ah... I don't know what you wanna call it... TAXATION or TIDING, ahhhhh, but... you know you can dictate so to be part of this GUILD you have to contribute ten percent of your income to us... or you have to contribute a thousand... UEC a month. Ah, so that'll be sort of set-able on the organisation side... ahm... you know and basically for... BELONGING to the organisation or the... things that the organisation PROVIDES you have to pay 'em, which I guess is kind of the same as if you were... part of... a COUNTRY and you pay your taxes so you have... ahm, you know, various things like... ARMED FORCES and ROADS and stuff like that. Ah, so, that's kind of the idea, I mean we're not, there won't be necessarily a tax on... INDIVIDUALS like... from... the UEE, there just will be UEE taxes on transactions essentially, ah, so hopefully that makes, ah, makes sense How in the name of almighty gently caress do you make any kind of TLDR for that? It actually makes no sense. This is the information flowing out from CIG, it goes to INN, it gets spun into whatever they want to spin it into, people read it and they spend money. None of this is ever going to convince cultists of anything and it would be naive of me to think that it would. But it's exactly the sort of thing that would convince ME, as a relative outsider, that shenanigans was afoot with this whole INN setup that they have going on. At the very least INN are loving useless at what they are doing and at worst they are convincing people of stuff that is never ever going to happen and never was intended to happen.
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SomethingJones posted:The TLDRs on the INN site are front and centre, posted directly underneath the videos. They're presented as being TLDRs but they contain none of the caveats and some of them directly contradict what was said. The MVP question is a one example of that, the 'work being done' vs 'we have a plan' is another. I get that, I'm just telling you it makes an unconvincing argument that is easily dismissed by anyone in the trenches or on the fence and reduces the effectiveness of what you are trying to accomplish in all but the minds of those who already understand it's bullshit to begin with. The actual transcripts are right below the tl;dr:, and again perhaps we can come up with more accurate/neutral tl;dr's? I'll leave it at that.. take this how you will and carry on. o9
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SomethingJones posted:There's another thing here worth bearing in mind, and it's a problem I ran into whilst doing this - have a look at this: Q: Taxes? A: Yup. There will be taxes and fees on stuff like station access and market activity. Orgs will be able to set taxes on member income or require them to pay membership fees at set intervals. 
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SomethingJones posted:INN Transcripts vs Real Life!
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Thoatse posted:I get that, I'm just telling you it makes an unconvincing argument that is easily dismissed by anyone in the trenches or on the fence and reduces the effectiveness of what you are trying to accomplish in all but the minds of those who already understand it's bullshit to begin with. It's easily dismissed by saying "oh, but we've posted the full transcript underneath", there's no way around that unless those transcripts are bullshit too. I still think that any reasonable person looking at it can see what they're up to. If it's easily dismissed then so be it. I'll certainly have a think on it.
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The more horrible ABH is on the forums the more attractive I find her . Is this wrong?
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Tippis posted:Q: Taxes? Fair enough! Funnily enough I just went back to look at what INN had for the question, and there are no TLDRs on those old episodes. They actually provided a really good summary/interpretation of Chris's answer: quote:So, as far as the game goes the taxes will be fairly simple. The idea is that they would be on trade or consumption. So, if you land down on a planet you have to pay a landing fee and then if you buy or sell stuff then you will have to pay a sales tax or value-added tax. So, basically there will be things taxed on buying and selling and essentially landing is a kind of a tax or a fee.
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EightAce posted:The more horrible ABH is on the forums the more attractive I find her . Is this wrong? It's a perfectly normal reaction since you're high on The Stimperor's fumes as of late. If symptoms persist longer than 2 weeks however seek professional medical help immediately.
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EightAce posted:The more horrible ABH is on the forums the more attractive I find her . Is this wrong? Who doesn't like angry sex? Or as I like to call it, sex.
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May 10, 2016 20:45
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EightAce posted:The more horrible ABH is on the forums the more attractive I find her . Is this wrong? Her, or the amateur model some clown convinced to dress up in steam punk garbage that she uses as her avatar?
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Beet Wagon posted:Her, or the amateur model some clown convinced to dress up in steam punk garbage that she uses as her avatar? You take that back right now. She is a steam punk goddess who is really into Star citizen. She is funny and intelligent and sexy as hell. In no way whatsoever is that an account used by members of the CS team and Sandi herself to mouth off on their own forum. I find your suggestion not only offensive but ill informed and your lucky I haven't challenged you to a space dual of some sort.
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EightAce posted:You take that back right now. She is a steam punk goddess who is really into Star citizen. She is funny and intelligent and sexy as hell. In no way whatsoever is that an account used by members of the CS team and Sandi herself to mouth off on their own forum. Like meet in Elite Dangerous?
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Stand back to back, walk 10 paces, turn and show off your most expensive jpeg. Biggest space peen wins ABH.
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Wafflz posted:Stand back to back, walk 10 paces, turn and show off your most expensive jpeg. Biggest space peen wins ABH. Clip through some walls then both snap into T Poses quickest one wins.
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Imagine CIG-Toast reading EightAce posts and getting super mad lol.
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The good news is ABH has low standards. Sandi married Chris twice after all.
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As we have established beyond a shadow of a doubt Toast doesn't read these forums.
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Still I bet he gets pretty mad when Disco reads posts out to him at their apartment.
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EightAce posted:The more horrible ABH is on the forums the more attractive I find her . Is this wrong? Considering i have strong evidence(not really) that shows ABH is actually Ben Lesnick, Developer 's alt account, yes it is wrong. Unless you intend to be Ben's Big Bottom Buddy 2: The biggening
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EightAce posted:As we have established beyond a shadow of a doubt Toast doesn't read these forums. He just posts here. If he actually read anything it might convince him how hosed things are.
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Oldman doodle watch: US $56.00
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peter gabriel posted:Oldman doodle watch: US $56.00 I hope you buy it
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cocaine dad show posted:I hope you buy it It would boost my Star Citizen memorabilia collection by 100%
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EightAce posted:Clip through some walls then both snap into T Poses quickest one wins. Wafflz posted:Stand back to back, walk 10 paces, turn and show off your most expensive jpeg. Biggest space peen wins ABH. Is there a prize for second place? Cause I'm okay with not winning
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SomethingJones posted:So yes absolutely we have a PLAN in fact I sat down earlier this week ... but yeah I THINK we have a really cool PLAN. Star Citizen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsXKS8Nyu8Q
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Wafflz posted:I would like to get drunk this afternoon and shitpost but I'm pretty sure work would frown on that.  I think i'll just get drunk and continue working.
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SomethingJones posted:A: Ok, soooo... uh, as far as the game goes, ehm, you know, the taxes will be fairly simple, uhm, the idea would be that they're sort of on... TRADE or CONSUMPTION so if you... LAND down on a planet you have to pay a, uh, a LANDING FEE and then... if you buy... you know, you... you... SELL STUFF, ehm, you basically will have to pay a SALES TAX or BUY STUFF you have to buy a... you know... there's... there's a VALUE ADDED TAX so, BASICALLY uhm, things... there'll be THINGS taxed on buying and SELLING and... and essentially landing is a kind of a tax, it's sort of a fee, uhm, and then ORGANISATIONS themselves will be able to have certain, ah... I don't know what you wanna call it... TAXATION or TIDING, ahhhhh, but... you know you can dictate so to be part of this GUILD you have to contribute ten percent of your income to us... or you have to contribute a thousand... UEC a month. Ah, so that'll be sort of set-able on the organisation side... ahm... you know and basically for... BELONGING to the organisation or the... things that the organisation PROVIDES you have to pay 'em, which I guess is kind of the same as if you were... part of... a COUNTRY and you pay your taxes so you have... ahm, you know, various things like... ARMED FORCES and ROADS and stuff like that. Ah, so, that's kind of the idea, I mean we're not, there won't be necessarily a tax on... INDIVIDUALS like... from... the UEE, there just will be UEE taxes on transactions essentially, ah, so hopefully that makes, ah, makes sense I love it how a company that can't grasp the concept of VAT when charging its customers plans on implementing VAT in its game.
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EightAce posted:Clip through some walls then both snap into T Poses quickest one wins. 
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