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Tezcatlipoca posted:I've come to know them as worthless and despicable. Kaidan is easily the strongest squadmate, and has few if any actual beliefs.
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sassassin posted:Kaidan is easily the strongest squadmate, and has few if any actual beliefs. To be fair he gets majorly creepy toward the end.
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Sombrerotron posted:Well, in all fairness, there's a difference between wanting two individuals to die for their views and actions, and wanting an entire species to perish for its general (perceived) characteristics. Well their entire culture revolves around slavery and they view humans as ideal slaves.... So....
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May 9, 2016 01:08
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I felt bad for the Batarians after ME3 though. 
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May 9, 2016 03:40
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I feel bad about not being able to personally kill them all before the Reapers got there first.
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May 9, 2016 06:28
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The Batarians basically being eliminated from the universe without rhyme or reason was a pretty poor choice IMO.
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May 9, 2016 06:29
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Batarians are interesting jerks.
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Coughing Hobo posted:I feel bad about not being able to personally kill them all before the Reapers got there first. You're arguably responsible for the death of 100,000-1,000,000 of them?
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May 9, 2016 08:24
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The fact that people want to kill all batarians yet love krogan despite them being just as bad or demonstrably worse will never stop amusing me
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May 9, 2016 09:40
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If Wrex taught us anything, the way to fix this is by finding one chill batarian and engineering his ascendancy to the top of Batarian government leadership.
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Milky Moor posted:The Batarians basically being eliminated from the universe without rhyme or reason was a pretty poor choice IMO. The batarians never getting any kind of face turn was just weird to be honest and having one race just be irredeemable arseholes doesn't fit at all with ME1 or ME2. Before ME3 came out, when we all thought the trial at the beginning was going to be a bigger deal, I honestly thought there was going to be a scene where a batarian ruler walks in all threatening and imposing to press charges then surprises the court by saying "Yeah our intel says the Reapers are real and we're about to have an extinction war, Shepard is off the hook so they can help fight, here's a batarian squadmate to humanise the race like all the other races got".
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Vitamin P posted:The batarians never getting any kind of face turn was just weird to be honest and having one race just be irredeemable arseholes doesn't fit at all with ME1 or ME2. They basically existed to be space terrorists or be killed en masse. It's kind of disgusting when you think about it. I mean, we never even met a female batarian. ME3 could have had you go into batarian space to bring them on side for the fight but, nope, they're just awkwardly shoved off-stage. In some ways, ME3 is kind of lucky that the ending was just that bad because it helped overshadow a lot of other issues the plot had.
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It think it's a shame that the Batarian head design ended with relatively human proportions, their pre-Bring Down the Sky design was much more interesting. This was the Batarian image in the Codex before the DLC came out.
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Milky Moor posted:They basically existed to be space terrorists or be killed en masse. It's kind of disgusting when you think about it. I mean, we never even met a female batarian. ME3 could have had you go into batarian space to bring them on side for the fight but, nope, they're just awkwardly shoved off-stage. True. ME3 had terrible writing all around, but the endings were so awful that almost everything else was overlook. Once Bioware made them barely acceptable (at least, to people dumb enough to swallow the premise), they were off the hook. I also wish that ME3 had a Batarian Sentinel squadmate.
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Milky Moor posted:They basically existed to be space terrorists or be killed en masse. It's kind of disgusting when you think about it. I mean, we never even met a female batarian. Unfortunately the only times Batarians are depicted in a good light is showing them in a sympathetic light, as victims trying to hold onto their culture. The side-mission to recover the Pillars of Strength, and an off-hand comment someone makes that Batarians are a lot more agreeable without the Batarian Hegemony policing them. They seem analogous to the Klingons from the original Star Trek series. Then there are the vorcha, who are just space trash. Geostomp posted:True. ME3 had terrible writing all around, but the endings were so awful that almost everything else was overlook. Once Bioware made them barely acceptable (at least, to people dumb enough to swallow the premise), they were off the hook.
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Halloween Jack posted:
It had its moments but there's a lot of stuff that barely holds together on reflection the entire ME3 intro is a huge mess with a lot of straight-up nonsense. the original idea for a trial would have been a big help, I think -- both in terms of pacing and getting new and old players up to speed. instead they went for a big ol' cinematic city destruction, which was, uh, a bad idea
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OMG THE REAPERS ARE HERE NOW ACTIVELY GLASSING THE PLANET so feel free to go road trip, collect all your space bros, go hareing off after archaeological artifacts that give a plus 1 to morale, bang your embedded reporter, whatevs. The reapers'll wait.
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Also you have no idea the Reapers are going to swipe the Crucible and put it on Earth. You're just romping around the Galaxy and trying to get all the other races with big fleets to abandon their home planets to go fight on Earth, even though the Reapers are literally attacking everywhere at once.
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May 9, 2016 16:39
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Shepard does not in fact ask anyone to abandon their planet to save Earth.
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Leaving Earth/Palaven to rally the fleets didn't seem implausible to me, instead of getting bogged down in losing ground wars there. As for recruiting space bros and recovering artifacts, that seems like something you're mainly doing on the way to other stuff, even if the mechanics don't force you to play it that way. And recruitment isn't set up like ME2 where recruiting team members is a priority mission in and of itself. The main thing that stuck in my craw was building the Catalyst without ever having any idea whatsoever what it does. Like, at least toss me a meatier bone than "it manipulates lots of energy...to do what we have no idea."
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm late to the party so what were the general criticisms of ME3's writing outside of the ending? It's really bad apart from the ending which was originally good in places.
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Milky Moor posted:They basically existed to be space terrorists or be killed en masse. It's kind of disgusting when you think about it. I mean, we never even met a female batarian. Look at these goons who need to see all four tits on a batarian to figure out if it is a lady. 
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I'm actually disappointed they didn't just say that Turian men and women are pretty much indistinguishable from each other to a human eye. I mean, that's basically what they did with the Salarians, and with them there was actually a reason in the codex why there weren't any women around.
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Or maybe, being barred from a quick entry thanks to the events of Arrival, they have to come in the old fashioned way. They hit the edge of the galaxy. Remote stations or colonies start going dark. Certain relays, ships go through, nothing comes back. But STILL, nobody believes in these  Reapers that Shepard keeps going on about. Shep is in chains, on trial for blowing up a relay. Just as Shep is about to be declared guilty, a lone ship, blown to poo poo, bleeding atmosphere, pops back through one of the relays, and begins frantically transmitting sensor records. Take it from there. The Reapers are a crawling horror, slowing rolling over the galaxy. This puts a time pressure on, BUT still gives Shep time to roll around doing things. Put in some hard choices with no right answers. Which flank to shore up? Which colony to rescue an important asset from? You have time for ONE. Put in some real god-drat consequences. Make sure there is ZERO golden path. Cerberus turns at some point. There's advance Reaper mini-fleets flying ahead of the main horde to strike vital targets, scoop up the Ardat-Yakshi to make banshees, whatever. The council goes nuts. The Turian councellor tracks Shep down, apologizes, and says that he's shipping out with a front-line unit. The Salarian councellor is flipping out because Salarian space happens to be in the way. Shep, you're the ONLY person who even remotely has a clue. What do, brah? Make the Crucible a super weapon, sure. The plans are scattered around the galaxy in ancient time capsules from the Prothean era, like what Liara is putting together. You're bopping around the galaxy looking for them, as well as rebuilding your team. You start to find time capsules from even older cycles, now that you know what to look for. You start to piece together the real history of the reapers. Meanwhile, Cerberus salvaged Sovereign's brain, after ME1, and it's been slowly indoctrinating TIM the whole time. The Asari are being all coy because of their Prothean artifacts all squirrled away. The Quarian fleet is having an internal power struggle between a faction that wants to improve Quarian standing in the galaxy by helping, a faction that wants to exploit the chaos to retake Rannoch, and a faction that wants to use their mobility to keep the frack away from the Reapers. The Geth send an emissary, because they don't want to become reaper-chow either. The Krogran want to make babies, and offer to fight in exchange for the Genophage cure. Mordin is worried that his new musical's opening night will be ruined.
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Pattonesque posted:It had its moments but there's a lot of stuff that barely holds together on reflection The series was a victim of it's own success. EA wanted it more accessible for people that didn't play the first two. (and probably rushed it out the door to meet deadlines.)
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I'd be happy to see a ME game which sacrificed a story to emphasize a variety of playstyles and squad based options a la the ME3 multiplayer, couple with the kingdom-building stuff they're promising us in Andromeda.
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I wish there was a female batarian...so I could space gently caress her.
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Halloween Jack posted:I'd be happy to see a ME game which sacrificed a story to emphasize a variety of playstyles and squad based options a la the ME3 multiplayer, couple with the kingdom-building stuff they're promising us in Andromeda. Ya. This but with some kind of frame narrative would be the best, but it's gonna be another linear Chosen One story
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Waltzing Along posted:I wish there was a female batarian...so I could space gently caress her. Don't be so crass. It's "solving their daddy problems with you magical space weiner."
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm late to the party so what were the general criticisms of ME3's writing outside of the ending? Start from here for just ME3. Or just read the whole thing.
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Waltzing Along posted:I wish there was a female batarian...so I could space gently caress her. Bioware Writer nods knowingly.
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Trast posted:Bioware Writer nods knowingly.
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm late to the party so what were the general criticisms of ME3's writing outside of the ending? Basically, everything that was set up in ME1, excepting Wrex and Tali's subplots, was thrown out for no good reason, and because your choices are taken away and you're shoehorned into doing what the writer wants you to do, because the writer thinks he's the best ever. So you get scenes where you can't do something really really obvious, like this:  Honestly, by comparison with what came before, the ending wasn't even that bad, it's just the scapegoat for the whole series going off the rails with the opening scene for ME2. (like how Jar-Jar is to blame for the prequels) The writer(s) of all the sections but Rannoch and Tuchanka (and maybe Palaven) were up their own rear end about their awesome part of the story and didn't bother trying to figure out how to make it fit with the rest of the story, so in general ME3 (and ME2) are just convoluted set pieces for action sequences and illogical and out-of-place but obviously perfect Mary-Sue villains expositing during uninterruptable cut-scenes, like TIM, or Kai Leng. I just spent way too much time doing this. I didn't realize it was the same guy who did the Elder Scrolls series, including blasting the Skyrim Thieves Guild quest. quote:It’s shocking that this character design was even proposed, much less modeled, written, voice acted, scripted, and put into a real AAA videogame. He’s the antithesis of the BioWare style of storytelling. He doesn’t fit in this universe, this genre of videogame, or this genre of fiction. quote:Once you drain his shields three times, you win. And by “win” I mean the writer takes control away from you again and makes you lose. Kai grabs Liara and throws her into your third teammate and they both fly out of frame. As far as the writer is concerned, this means they have traveled to another dimension and can no longer contribute to the fight. quote:Kai is only a couple of steps away, but he’s strutting confidently. The crumbling floor doesn’t apply to him. He’s not worried about falling in because he’s the writer and he made that abyss just for you. You can cling to the ledge just long enough to see his dramatic exit and listen to his one-liners. You don’t get any dialog, because the writer doesn’t want to hear your voice while he’s busy jerking off in your face. Loser. At least ME3 has awesome Multiplayer.
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Reading this was almost as fun as playing me2
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Guys stop trolling!!
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