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oldpainless posted:Scott putski. Jesus do u know anything about wrestling?!?!
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Kronik were Bryan and Brian.
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May 10, 2016 21:59
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In addition to Morrison and Cena, there was also John Bradshaw Layfield and John Laurenitis. I'm not sure of all four overlapped though.
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May 10, 2016 22:00
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WCW had a Sean (O'Haire) and a Shawn (Stasiak) in the same stable.
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May 10, 2016 22:01
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Germansimp posted:
3 now: Show, E, and Cass.
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May 10, 2016 22:07
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"Chris'" wtf?!
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Great White Hope posted:WCW had a Sean (O'Haire) and a Shawn (Stasiak) in the same stable. Sean was just a nickname though. His Christian name was Perfectsean.
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The Croc posted:Teddy long vs Ghosts always made me laugh Dear lord, was there ever a conclusion to this? (Also did any of the guys in the video ever have kayfabe team-ups for real, or did the guy just pick the most ridiculous assortment?)
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May 11, 2016 00:29
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Well, Kofi and Punk were tag champs once, but that's about it. Helms was gone before both of them came in, wasn't he?
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rotinaj posted:Lift Sawyer sounds like the protagonist in a bargain basement 80s sci-fi flick, not an athlete. Fine, fine. The Modern Day Warrior, Lift Sawyer.
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May 11, 2016 01:54
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Halloween Jack posted:No, Who was Jim Neidhart, not Scott Armstrong. Who didn't even wrestle in WCW. He did so.
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May 11, 2016 02:32
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Oh, he definitely did, but Who didn't.
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May 11, 2016 03:13
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FunMerrania posted:e: on a serious note, is there a wrestling school known for being the absolute worse? Probably a tie between Moola's and Zandig's. Moolah because she was basically running a brothel disguised as a wrestling school, Zandig because who the gently caress has Zandig/CZW trained that didn't suck rear end?
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May 11, 2016 03:16
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Probably a tie between Moola's and Zandig's. Moolah because she was basically running a brothel disguised as a wrestling school, Zandig because who the gently caress has Zandig/CZW trained that didn't suck rear end? Adam Cole, lots of other guys.
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May 11, 2016 03:25
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natetimm posted:WCW Powerplant has to be up there in the worst. Wasn't Powerplant training basically just constant hazing and cardio?
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I got back into wrestling nearly a year after CM Punk left and a couple months after AJ Lee left. I missed their whole careers, and although I've watched a couple of Punk's more famous matches, it's hard to me to gauge their legacies as wrestlers/entertainers. Obviously, CM Punk chants still happen on shows, and I feel like there's some major angle to the current product that I'm missing. Thanks to the how2wrestling podcast, I have a good amount of background on other Important Things I missed like Cena's rise, the Shield, and Daniel Bryan, but the podcast hasn't covered Punk or Lee yet, so I want to study up on them. To get started, I just listened to the two Colt Cabana interviews and I watched a couple of the "pipebomb" promos (how the hell did those get that name?), and so I understand a little bit about Punk's character. I'd love to get descriptions of Punk/Lee's characters, your assessments of how they stacked up against their competition at the time and how they compare to the talent on the roster now. Both seem like they were big stars, but right now, we've got incredibly talented folks like AJ Styles and Sasha Banks on the roster. Were they considered the best around during their time? Would they still be at that level now, or would they be more in the upper-midcard range? Were they overrated? Basically, please help me put them in context in terms of their importance and talent, thank you.
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May 11, 2016 04:20
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The Big Show and The Ryback
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Punk was the Savage to Cena's Hogan. He could have easily carried the company as the main star if given the chance because he was great in the ring, dynamite on the mic, and a strong merch mover. He was so run down by the end of his career and even then he had two MOTY candidates with Taker and Brock. It's hard to think of a situation in WWE that Punk didn't make work. He was a fresh-faced kid all about competition, a self-righteous rear end in a top hat, a cult leader, an anti-authority mouthpiece for every disgruntled fan, Paul Heyman's jilted best friend. All of it flowed and made sense because Punk absolutely knew his character and made drat sure that we knew that he was the best in the world. If you want to talk importance and legacy, I have no qualms about saying that Punk will go down in history as one of the best promos of all time. Dude was unreal when given a mic and freedom.
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May 11, 2016 04:36
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Also, don't use How2Wrestling to fill in knowledge gaps without a companion piece (i.e. Wikipedia) because Kefin actually doesn't know much and poo poo goes off the rails pretty hard sometimes.
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"pipebomb" came from one of punk's promo where he described the power of his words and said that a microphone is like a pipebomb in his hands because he's dangerous when they let him speak his mind or w/e
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MotU posted:The Big Show and The Ryback The Miz. 
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Memento posted:Wasn't Powerplant training basically just constant hazing and cardio? Their graduate list is less than impressive and includes David Flair. There are a few OK guys on there, but realistically for the time and money they were spending they weren't getting a good result. If you pressed me, I would probably pick Kanyon as their best home-grown star. Goldberg was obviously the most successful, but a lot of that was booking and look. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCW_Power_Plant
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natetimm posted:Their graduate list is less than impressive and includes David Flair. There are a few OK guys on there, but realistically for the time and money they were spending they weren't getting a good result. If you pressed me, I would probably pick Kanyon as their best home-grown star. Goldberg was obviously the most successful, but a lot of that was booking and look. Goldberg was all about the charisma. Incredible, intense, physical charisma.
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May 11, 2016 05:45
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MassRafTer posted:Goldberg was all about the charisma. Incredible, intense, physical charisma. Yeah, almost all look. Not really a good promo.
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May 11, 2016 06:05
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Mean Gene: Goldberg, I think the question on everybody's mind isn't "Who's next", it's "Who's left?" Goldberg: No, the question on everybody's mind isn't "Who's left", it's "Who's next?"
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May 11, 2016 06:46
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Probably a tie between Moola's and Zandig's. Moolah because she was basically running a brothel disguised as a wrestling school, Zandig because who the gently caress has Zandig/CZW trained that didn't suck rear end? If you're bringing in Moolah then it's not far from her to the various "wrestling schools" that were just "we take your money and then beat you up until you don't want to wrestle anymore." I think the better question would be what *good* wrestling schools have there been.
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I remember an interview with Bob Sapp where he talked about how he was training at the Power Plant when it closed down. So there were definitely some interesting folks there.
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Maxwell Lord posted:If you're bringing in Moolah then it's not far from her to the various "wrestling schools" that were just "we take your money and then beat you up until you don't want to wrestle anymore." For all of Lance Storm's insanity, (libraries are theft, cancer research is bad, fun is worse), his school seems to be run along the right lines. I dunno how many famous people have come out of there though. Emma is one that I know of.
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Also, don't use How2Wrestling to fill in knowledge gaps without a companion piece (i.e. Wikipedia) because Kefin actually doesn't know much and poo poo goes off the rails pretty hard sometimes. This really can't be said enough. He literally just speculates or makes poo poo up all the time, and never even bothers to fact check. The whole show is a semi-educated wrestling fan basically making up fan fiction from things he half remembers for someone who's new to wrestling.
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May 11, 2016 07:59
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Who the hell is lift sawyer? That's the worst wrestling name I've ever heard, goddamn
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What was the general reaction to Mark Henry winning the WHC from Randy Orton? How was the Hall of Pain overall received by people
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Ostentatious posted:What was the general reaction to Mark Henry winning the WHC from Randy Orton? How was the Hall of Pain overall received by people I was in and out during that period but I think he was generally viewed as very entertaining even if the matches mostly sucked, and regardless still way better than Orton at being whc
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I think most people liked it but mark surprisingly got injured 6 times in 5 months and plans changed.
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Ostentatious posted:What was the general reaction to Mark Henry winning the WHC from Randy Orton? How was the Hall of Pain overall received by people I wasn't watching wrestling at the time, but Mark Henry is loving cool and I approve of him slamming people and killing them.
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MassRafTer posted:Adam Cole, lots of other guys. Yeah looking into it more I guess you'd have to make a division of people trained pre-, like, 2004 or so. IDK it just seems like every time I look up some random garbage Hardcore wrestler from the early 00's half of them were trained by Zandig. So I guess it's fair to say CZW has trained some good guys, but maybe Zandig is bad. Maxwell Lord posted:If you're bringing in Moolah then it's not far from her to the various "wrestling schools" that were just "we take your money and then beat you up until you don't want to wrestle anymore." I think in this case Moolah counts because she wasn't running some school in a strip mall in the rust belt, industry professionals were funneling people to her and her school was seen as a place where professional organizations could scout talent.
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Jason Sextro posted:Who the hell is lift sawyer? That's the worst wrestling name I've ever heard, goddamn some developmental FCW guy who had 2 taped matches and I don't think anything else
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BrigadierSensible posted:For all of Lance Storm's insanity, (libraries are theft, cancer research is bad, fun is worse), his school seems to be run along the right lines. I dunno how many famous people have come out of there though. Emma is one that I know of.
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