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I would say cut your losses, learn your lesson, and move on, but you don't seem capable of any of that.
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I have to say, mentoring puppy authors for a percentage of their first book sounds like something you guys could easily do. I know one on one advice usually isn't worth the time you could have been spent writing, but maybe a cut of the profits in exchange for an email or two every day might be worth it?
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May 10, 2016 12:38
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Make them pay extra for cover consults or whatnot. Could work as an extra revenue stream.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I have to say, mentoring puppy authors for a percentage of their first book sounds like something you guys could easily do. I know one on one advice usually isn't worth the time you could have been spent writing, but maybe a cut of the profits in exchange for an email or two every day might be worth it? It sounds good until you watch someone slam their hand in the door for the tenth time. "A percentage" lol, like I could trust anyone, let alone an author, to pay me in the future for advice they received in the past. I'll keep taking Skype calls for five hundred an hour though.
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May 10, 2016 13:21
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Special introductory offer for new self-publishers: I will schedule and facilitate a Skype called with wildly successful self-publishing veteran EngineerSean for the low, low price of $575/hr.
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May 10, 2016 18:46
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EngineerSean posted:I'll keep taking Skype calls for five hundred an hour though. What's the goon discount rate? $495/hr?
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Zypher posted:What's the goon discount rate? $495/hr? I think the goon discount is just posting in this thread and hoping someone answers you for free.
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Special introductory goon offer: For the low, low price of $50 I will register you an account on the 'Something Awful' forums where you can ask 'self publishing guru' Engineering Shaun questions that will totally revolutionise your self publicating career!!! i also accept bitcoins (converted to USD)
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"feh, bitcoins, what a scam," he posted in the self publishing thread
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May 11, 2016 12:02
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I'll have you know that bitcoins are the currency of the future. I explain it all here, at the back of my 2000-page manifesto available on Kindle Unlimited.
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May 11, 2016 12:06
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There's a free bitcoin wallet code if you flip all the way to the back of the book. First come first served.
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KU rate for April = $0.00496
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Jalumibnkrayal posted:KU rate for April = $0.00496 Huh, that's a pleasant surprise 
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May 13, 2016 20:06
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After today I want to write "How to Lose a Great Paying Job You've Held for Two Years In Three Emails Because You Can't Take Criticism"
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EngineerSean posted:After today I want to write "How to Lose a Great Paying Job You've Held for Two Years In Three Emails Because You Can't Take Criticism" Details?
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May 13, 2016 22:40
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Just frustrated at someone who I've been too nice to for years now.
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Haha, reading up some more on this Booktrope thing and apparently a default part of their contract was that your work was published under a Creative Commons Attribution No-Commercial license, unless you specified explicitly that it wasn't. That means that when you do get your work 'back', even if you republish and change the rights, people with copies of your old work are perfectly legally entitled to give that version out for free, forever. Which means look out if you want to republish and whack it in KU, because all anyone has to do is just put it up for free on their own website, or republish it themselves, and you're loving boned 
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Aaronicon posted:Haha, reading up some more on this Booktrope thing and apparently a default part of their contract was that your work was published under a Creative Commons Attribution No-Commercial license, unless you specified explicitly that it wasn't. That means that when you do get your work 'back', even if you republish and change the rights, people with copies of your old work are perfectly legally entitled to give that version out for free, forever. Which means look out if you want to republish and whack it in KU, because all anyone has to do is just put it up for free on their own website, or republish it themselves, and you're loving boned You can download any story today and put it up on your website for free, yet people are still able to use kindle unlimited.
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EngineerSean posted:You can download any story today and put it up on your website for free, yet people are still able to use kindle unlimited. First rule of rules: Everyone else can break them with no consequence, but whenever you do it everything goes to poo poo. It's just an amusing end-note to that whole drama. That Guy posted:NO SEE IT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE
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Yeah I think book tripe is a pretty big joke as well and I guess I'm just being a bit pedantic. The other day I went on a hunt for articles about this and, apart from a pair of editors who felt underpaid, everyone of their authors was like "what will I do without them???" Some Stockholm syndrome I guess.
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BuckarooBanzai posted:I have a silly stupid question for the thread, and I apologize if it was answered elsewhere. Is it possible to publish through Amazon, Apple, et. al, and in such away that you can be totally certain you won't make any money? I ask because I want to get back into writing but I'm living and working abroad and a condition of my visa is that I not make any money from anything else, even working for myself. This is from a while back but I would think this would be fine as long as the money is flowing back into a bank account in your home country. It's not really any different from, say, having a stock portfolio generating dividends back home. Your new country just doesn't want you taking jobs off any other people there.
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I'm making a Slack for Booktrope fans, who's in?
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ravenkult posted:I'm making a Slack for Booktrope fans, who's in? I'm only going to join if it's as exclusive as the other slack. We don't want anyone please let me in the other Slack again Bardeh fucked around with this message at 19:25 on May 14, 2016 |
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All right, I made a Slack for us selfpubbers, since I checked the IRC channel and it's 100% dead. Drop me an email at selfpub@mail.com and I'll send an invite. I definitely need someone to run it with 'cause I'm a fascist.
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Email has been dropped!
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Does anyone here use twitter to advertise? I am pretty ignorant about it, as in never used twitter ever but made an account a couple days ago for my pen name. It just had never come up before. Now I have book scheduled to be free tomorrow and Saturday, and wanted to "tweet" the link to it "@" a bunch of free book twitter accounts like @freebookclub1, @kindle_free, and like a hundred more. Because of the character limit, does that mean I should send a hundred tweets, one for each of them, or what? Can people (other than the couple hundred followers I somehow picked up) see that the book is free on their twitter or something? I'm sure these are eye-rollingly callow questions, but gently caress if I know how to use twitter and the promo starts tomorrow.
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Does anyone here use twitter to advertise? It depends what your market is, but your best bet is usually to ask other authors in your genre who actually have followers if they would retweet you. Free books definitely tend to get retweeted a lot more, but without some initial push to really expose you, it is more difficult. Any kind of place that is spammy has you generally get lost in the noise...I only follow ~200 people on my non-writer twitter account and VERY OFTEN I miss tweets from people I really like just because of sheer volume. I think most people follow much more than that. Freebookclub looks insanely spammy and most followers are probably bots. Kindle_free...same thing. Look at how few of those tweets have any engagement at all. The ones with single likes and retweets are probably the authors themselves. A lot of Facebook/goodreads groups are similar to this: they are basically authors spamming their books with no reader engagement or interest. I have people in my genre that are nice enough to retweet me when I release, but my twitter is my weaker social media arm. I actually have people engaging with my Facebook, but it's probably because my audience is older "facebook aunt" type people who don't even use Twitter.
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Ok, think I got it. Thank you that was pretty helpful.
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What's the genre? I can retweet a bit.
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Oh, it is yucky romance stuff. 3000 free given away so far so that seems like a lot (for me at least)
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Bardeh posted:Anyway, I hope that when you get the rights to your book back, you pull it from publication and give it a fresh start yourself. Here's how to do it: And yes. I could have done this all along. I agree with you.
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Congratulations, man. Seriously couldn't be happier that you're moving forward with it on your own.
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magnificent7 posted:How long should I wait? What will waiting accomplish?
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magnificent7 posted:To follow up, yes, I get my book back, yes, I'm planning on following your list here as close as I can with a re-publish several months after the Booktrope poo poo dies down. Most of the other authors are shifting their books to Amazon right away. I'd rather let the poo poo settle, focus on my next book, then re-release this one first, following the steps you listed, and then roll out the next one. How long should I wait? That's great to hear. How long you wait is up to you, but it mostly depends on your next book. Ideally you'd re-release Snapshot about a month, month and a half before the new one is ready to publish. However, if it's gonna take you a while, just do Snapshot as soon as possible. The longer it sits on your HDD, the more potential money you're not earning. All of the major marketing can be booked in a couple of hours, it's not that time-consuming. Maybe others here will have some good suggestions for places to submit it to, I've only ever promoted Romance and I'm not sure where you'd get the best value for money in other genres. Let us know when it's out. I'll borrow it and leave you a review.
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quote:The S C A R E Manuscript Analysis is a comprehensive review of a completed manuscript for a work of fiction, designed to identify its audience, highlight developmental issues, and gives a road map to create a structurally sound manuscript. A.I. Book analysis service. Some selfpub podcast I listen to was peddling it. $1000 to run an analysins on your book. Extra for your blurb. 
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ravenkult posted:A.I. Book analysis service. Some selfpub podcast I listen to was peddling it. If you could actually develop something that effectively auto-edits books for marketability, couldn't you also develop something to auto-write them for marketability? (And if we could you drat well know pulp romance would be flooded with machine-written novellas about small town waifs being swept away in the arms of pirates/powerful businessmen/vampires/werewolves/that one guy who's always browsing the frozen food aisle every time you go to the grocery store.) All this review system seems like it really does is suggest alterations geared towards making people's books more generic. No amount of automated narrative mapping is going to produce something like "sorry, you've got all the right content and your plot flows smoothly but you're an intensely boring author with the engageability of a doorknob" or "your premise is very interesting and you're not a bad writer but you like to hear yourself talk too much, you should work on that" which are the kinds of things that we sometimes need to hear and spend a little while being gigantic babies about before we can get better at what we do. As valuable as something as straight-forward "less waxing poetic, more plot progression" is as a critique, that really doesn't tell you anything beyond the obvious about how to be better on your next manuscript, does it?
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ravenkult posted:A.I. Book analysis service. Some selfpub podcast I listen to was peddling it. Hmm... I could pay someone $1,000 to give me a half-assed audience affiliation assessment, or I could read the damned genre myself and know what the gently caress I'm doing. Tough call.
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Sundae posted:Hmm... I could pay someone $1,000 to give me a half-assed audience affiliation assessment, or I could read the damned genre myself and know what the gently caress I'm doing. Honestly, you could pay me half that to use my useless degree in English Literature and my minor in Sociology to put together an audience affiliation assessment and a relatively comprehensive editorial review of your book. I don't understand how they think this is going to work when pretty much every other option around is cheaper and more reliable.
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