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KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Imagined posted:

Radiohead didn't want *any* of their albums on Spotify, but "In Rainbows" is one they own entirely, so that's the only one they had any say over. Thom Yorke called Spotify "the last desperate fart of a dying corpse".

Unless he is going to come up with something that benefits the customers he can gently caress right off imho, maybe the real dying fart is super star bands bankrolled by big labels.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Millennially: *farting sounds mixed with wanking* this artists are doing it wrong!

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Jerry Cotton posted:

Millennially: *farting sounds mixed with wanking* this artists are doing it wrong!

Gene Belcher, ladies and gentlemen!

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Jerry Cotton posted:

Millennially: *farting sounds mixed with wanking* this artists are doing it wrong!

Do you have a FLAC of this

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

KakerMix posted:

Unless he is going to come up with something that benefits the customers he can gently caress right off imho, maybe the real dying fart is super star bands bankrolled by big labels.

Google's Play streaming service has it. So does Apple's, hell it's even on Tidal. They're not against streaming or subscription services, but specifically against spotify and their policies. Guess you just backed the wrong streaming service.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Megabound posted:

Google's Play streaming service has it. So does Apple's, hell it's even on Tidal. They're not against streaming or subscription services, but specifically against spotify and their policies. Guess you just backed the wrong streaming service.

But that isn't the quote from the article :confused:

that article posted:

Thom Yorke remains unconvinced that streaming is the answer to artists' problems, though. "To me this isn't the mainstream, this is is like the last fart, the last desperate fart of a dying corpse. What happens next is the important part," he told Sopitas, before suggesting that the music industry should rethink its backing for certain new business models.

Like if it's anti-Spotify then sure I'm ignorant of that and assumed he meant all streaming because that's what the words said. I backed the ~right~ horse with Google so hopefully you and I can be horse-backing buddies.
Speaking of audiophile stuff, isn't Tidal the service with lossless streaming? I tried it for the free trial they had when the first launched and could not tell a difference at all between normal streaming and lossless, no matter what speakers, headphones and DACs I used.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


KozmoNaut posted:

Solution: Only go to death and black metal shows :v:

Many years ago I went to a Fear Factory, Devildriver and Drykillogic tripleheader. It was loving awful live.

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner

KakerMix posted:

But that isn't the quote from the article :confused:


Like if it's anti-Spotify then sure I'm ignorant of that and assumed he meant all streaming because that's what the words said. I backed the ~right~ horse with Google so hopefully you and I can be horse-backing buddies.
Speaking of audiophile stuff, isn't Tidal the service with lossless streaming? I tried it for the free trial they had when the first launched and could not tell a difference at all between normal streaming and lossless, no matter what speakers, headphones and DACs I used.

You also have to realize at the time the article was written, Spotify really was the only streaming service worth a drat. Apple Music/Tidal have different policies because of the criticism Spotify got from people like Radiohead.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Humphreys posted:

Many years ago I went to a Fear Factory, Devildriver and Drykillogic tripleheader. It was loving awful live.

I'm looking forward to Fear Factory's European tour, it's gonna be awesome :)

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


KakerMix posted:

Do you have a FLAC of this

I will record a few hours of this for you, but it's only going to be available on wax cylinders.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Humphreys posted:

Many years ago I went to a Fear Factory, Devildriver and Drykillogic tripleheader. It was loving awful live.

The only type of band I've not had this problem with has been ska. I guess ska just sounds like ska no matter if it's live or recorded. Reel Big Fish puts on a fun show wnyway, though. :shrug:

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

DicktheCat posted:

The only type of band I've not had this problem with has been ska. I guess ska just sounds like ska no matter if it's live or recorded. Reel Big Fish puts on a fun show wnyway, though. :shrug:

This post must be from 1998.

CD changers in a trunk. I guess they would be good for long trips, but every day driving, if you wanted to change cds while doing day to day stuff, good luck. This is based on the cars that only had cd changers in the trunk and no cd slot on the dash. My parents had a Passat that had that. I guess the VW engineers figured you'd never want to switch out your copies of Kraftwerk, DAF and Nina Hagen greatest hits.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

DicktheCat posted:

The only type of band I've not had this problem with has been ska. I guess ska just sounds like ska no matter if it's live or recorded. Reel Big Fish puts on a fun show wnyway, though. :shrug:

I've found it to be a problem, but mostly with small bands. One I saw had an amazing horn section but the album mixing nerfed the horns so much they sounded way different.

I tend to chalk it up to having lovely recording equipment and/or lack of experience mixing audio.

sarcastx
Feb 26, 2005



See "Flogging Molly" live, if you get the chance.

For a band with so many instruments, they're drat close to flawless, and ridiculous amounts of fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBbr3qY9qCk

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


sarcastx posted:

See "Flogging Molly" live, if you get the chance.

For a band with so many instruments, they're drat close to flawless, and ridiculous amounts of fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBbr3qY9qCk

This is one band I would love to see live. Looks like a lot of fun.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

DicktheCat posted:

The only type of band I've not had this problem with has been ska. I guess ska just sounds like ska no matter if it's live or recorded. Reel Big Fish puts on a fun show wnyway, though. :shrug:

I don't go to a lot of live shows, but whenever I see a live rock music style group performing anywhere near where I live, the always sound very tinny/metallic and the drums are way too loud. I don't know if this is just a problem with local venues, people not knowing how to stage the band to get the best sound, how to adjust equipment, etc.

Now, I've never heard a Ska band live, but I wonder if these sort of things actually play into the strengths of ska. You've got a lot of already metallic sounding instruments that may or may not need extra amplification.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Gogol Bordello & Primus both do great live shows, as does Les Claypool's side act, Duo De Twang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXhYx6KCthQ
I got to see this show live, and it got me into Gogol. One of the best opening acts I've seen yet. And Eugene (the lead singer for GB) has seemingly boundless energy.

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell
Clutch are way better live, though that has more to do with the maniac energy than with how they sound.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Shellac were amazing live. Great presence, really exacting mix quality and great crowd interaction. Can't recommend seeing them love enough of they ever tour in your area.

This was the third time they'd been to Australia in 23 years, so they can be hard to catch if you're not in America.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
Live performance is probably the least obsolete thing imaginable, since it's effectively immune from piracy.

Old 97s are consistently one of the most amazing live acts you'll ever see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Jw1SOFn0s


Okay, the best individual show I ever saw was Nashville Pussy opening for Hank III opening for Reverend Horton Heat. But I'll always go to a 97s show.

joshtothemaxx
Nov 17, 2008

I will have a whole army of zombies! A zombie Marine Corps, a zombie Navy Corps, zombie Space Cadets...

Manuel Calavera posted:

Gogol Bordello & Primus both do great live shows, as does Les Claypool's side act, Duo De Twang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXhYx6KCthQ
I got to see this show live, and it got me into Gogol. One of the best opening acts I've seen yet. And Eugene (the lead singer for GB) has seemingly boundless energy.

Gogol Bordello played a really small show in Blacksburg in 2007 and GB stuck around to party with some VT radio station people. I now know where his energy comes from :catdrugs:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Darryl Braithewaite was also awesome live 20 years afer his music was in the charts.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Computer viking posted:

A service that offered optional SACD-style mixes in CD quality mp3 at a good bitrate should in theory be everything anyone needed, though I guess it wouldn't sell well since most of the target audience wouldn't be interested in anything that "low quality".

Onkyo have a streaming service that their newer amplifiers use that does something like this, it's probably available online as well.

Qobuz sells tracks in all sorts of formats up to 24 bit wav for the insane, I bought one album in 24 bit flac, discovered it was 1.5gb and thought 'yeah this is stupid' and went back to 16 bit mp3/flac.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

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Humphreys posted:

Darryl Braithewaite was also awesome live 20 years afer his music was in the charts.

I saw him a few years back when I got dragged along to a Shannon Noll show. Dude's coming up on his seventies now and he's still got it.

Powerlurker
Oct 21, 2010

Pilsner posted:

Nowhere close as bad as liking a band's CD, hearing them live (real live or on TV/video) for the first time, and realize that the lead singer has a terrible voice. Dave Grohl (not that I'm a fan of Foo Fighters anymore, but I was 15 years ago) just sounds godawful, and so do many other singers. I don't really like live performances in general, partly due to the voice thing, partly because I don't like improvisation when it comes to a good song I like, except a few rare cases.

Case in point: Taylor Swift attempting to sing a duet with Stevie Nicks at the Grammys and being absolutely unable to stay in tune.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

Powerlurker posted:

Case in point: Taylor Swift attempting to sing a duet with Stevie Nicks at the Grammys and being absolutely unable to stay in tune.



I don't know anything about this other than being a big Taylor Swift fan but isn't she really famous for having very god live concerts? Is that really all lip syncing?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I saw Rush back in 2012 and except for Geddy's voice going they were completely perfect.

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals
I can't wait for the day that more bands realize there's no need to bring a full stack to a bar or small venue - the only times I've ever seen that work was with Yob, Bongripper, and Thou. Those three bands have really nailed the mastery of making you feel the music like no other, which also comes down to the genres they're a part of. For the most part 100 watt amps only sound really good cranked, and that totally fucks up the mix for all the other instruments.
I'm also a huge proponent of AxeFXs into FRFR cabs, because you can give the audience the same tone that they'd hear on an album, while still using comfortable volumes.

Powerlurker
Oct 21, 2010

Throatwarbler posted:

I don't know anything about this other than being a big Taylor Swift fan but isn't she really famous for having very god live concerts? Is that really all lip syncing?

My little brother went to one of her concerts a few years ago and came away unimpressed with her talent.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


The Gasmask posted:

I can't wait for the day that more bands realize there's no need to bring a full stack to a bar or small venue - the only times I've ever seen that work was with Yob, Bongripper, and Thou. Those three bands have really nailed the mastery of making you feel the music like no other, which also comes down to the genres they're a part of. For the most part 100 watt amps only sound really good cranked, and that totally fucks up the mix for all the other instruments.
I'm also a huge proponent of AxeFXs into FRFR cabs, because you can give the audience the same tone that they'd hear on an album, while still using comfortable volumes.

The POWER OF ROCK and the complicated history of lovely PAs are mostly to blame for that. You can do a stunning job in small venues (and compete with your drummer in practice, honestly) with just a smallish combo amp as long as it's decently built. Frankly around 20-30 watts with a 12 inch speaker is way louder than most people probably realize.

Shugojin has a new favorite as of 01:54 on May 16, 2016

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Obsolete and failed, music edition: the notion that anything Radiohead has done post-2003 is worth anyone's time

Grumbletron 4000
Nov 30, 2002

Where you want it, bitch.
College Slice

Phanatic posted:

Okay, the best individual show I ever saw was Nashville Pussy opening for Hank III opening for Reverend Horton Heat. But I'll always go to a 97s show.

I saw Nashville Pussy open for the Rev once. I think the Nekromantix were the first act. But, hell yes was that a kick rear end, high energy show. Those guys are still fun to listen to any time though. For me, the one that doesn't translate from live to any other medium was GWAR. I was fortunate enough to see them before Cory Smoot and Dave Brockie died. The stage show and unbridled violence was just mind blowing. I still have my blood and jizz stained shirt from that night. I really hope they're still doing it right in their current incarnation.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Shugojin posted:

The POWER OF ROCK and the complicated history of lovely PAs are mostly to blame for that. You can do a stunning job in small venues (and compete with your drummer in practice, honestly) with just a smallish combo amp as long as it's decently built. Frankly around 20-30 watts with a 12 inch speaker is way louder than most people probably realize.

Local Band Convinced Full-Stack Amps are Necessary for Show at Doug’s House

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Phanatic posted:

Live performance is probably the least obsolete thing imaginable, since it's effectively immune from piracy.

Old 97s are consistently one of the most amazing live acts you'll ever see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Jw1SOFn0s


Okay, the best individual show I ever saw was Nashville Pussy opening for Hank III opening for Reverend Horton Heat. But I'll always go to a 97s show.

Is it okay if I hate you forever, and slowly dry up into a crackling rind of jealously?

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

I saw Nashville Pussy open for the Rev once. I think the Nekromantix were the first act. But, hell yes was that a kick rear end, high energy show. Those guys are still fun to listen to any time though. For me, the one that doesn't translate from live to any other medium was GWAR. I was fortunate enough to see them before Cory Smoot and Dave Brockie died. The stage show and unbridled violence was just mind blowing. I still have my blood and jizz stained shirt from that night. I really hope they're still doing it right in their current incarnation.

You too? I will desiccate faster if I can double my passionate loathing?

I will say a few old school bands I saw, namely Devo, Oingo Boingo, and the last tour of the original Ramones were all AFUCKINGMAZING!

Samizdata has a new favorite as of 06:06 on May 16, 2016

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

chitoryu12 posted:

I saw Rush at any point between 1968 and today and except for Geddy's voice going they were completely perfect.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
Just watched a 90s era Smashing Pumpkins video and god drat do I wish I could've gone to see them live before billy corgan went hilariously nuts

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Code Jockey posted:

Just watched a 90s era Smashing Pumpkins video and god drat do I wish I could've gone to see them live before billy corgan went hilariously nuts

What are you talking abou -- oh...

e: lol how-the-smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-became-an-robocop-hating-conservative-crusader.html

Wasabi the J has a new favorite as of 07:57 on May 16, 2016

Je suis fatigue
May 5, 2009

Amazing! It's a double J.O.!

Wasabi the J posted:

What are you talking abou -- oh...

haha SA changed the s double jay in the URL to robocop and broke the link

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Woah, he has not aged well. I thought he was some kind of immortal vampire or something.


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Apr 24, 2014

Je suis fatigue posted:

haha SA changed the s double jay in the URL to robocop and broke the link

Oh that's what happened! Okay try this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/13/how-the-smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-became-an-s%6Aw-hating-conservative-crusader.html :science:

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