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I didn't watch much college basketball Please give an irresponsible modern nba comp for Simmons so I can day dream. Tyia.
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euphronius posted:I didn't watch much college basketball 6'10 Rajon Rondo
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May 18, 2016 16:54
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euphronius posted:I didn't watch much college basketball 6'10" terrific athlete with a great handle, gifted passer, a beast in transition but a broken jump shot? Sounds like the next LeBron to me. I don't watch college basketball either
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May 18, 2016 17:00
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Would Okafor for #3 and one of Boston's logjam of guards be a fair trade?
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May 18, 2016 17:03
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IcePhoenix posted:Doesn't Ingram project as more of a 3? Ingram will be an SF if his quickness is adequate for the NBA. Otherwise he's going to have to be a stretch 4, and he's way undersized (from a strength perspective) for that. Slowpoke! posted:It's either Simmons or Ingram. Simmons could easily be a late 80s early 90s style basket slash 3. It'd look a little funny in a modern offense but at the Sixers are managed by a bunch of old dudes who would probably be willing to give a throwback offense a try.
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May 18, 2016 17:10
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If Hield is there at 5, you'll probably find a willing partner in Sacramento, provided what you want back includes McLemore
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May 18, 2016 17:13
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iamsosmrt posted:Would Okafor for #3 and one of Boston's logjam of guards be a fair trade? I love okafor and want this to happen badly.
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May 18, 2016 17:42
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euphronius posted:I didn't watch much college basketball Blake Griffin without the posterizing dunks
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May 18, 2016 17:44
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euphronius posted:I didn't watch much college basketball Magic Johnson. 
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Metapod posted:Blake Griffin without the posterizing dunks This is actually really accurate. Rick posted:Ingram will be an SF if his quickness is adequate for the NBA. Otherwise he's going to have to be a stretch 4, and he's way undersized (from a strength perspective) for that. I doubt Simmons will stick at the 3, especially if they are playing both Noel and Okafor. Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 18:46 on May 18, 2016 |
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May 18, 2016 18:44
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Jack's Flow posted:The Lakers face no pressure here, right? They'll simply pick the dude Philly did not pick. Or is there a 3rd guy floating around? It was a terrifying draft for Mitch. Fall one spot, and it would probably be trade bait, fall two, and the final catastrophe of the Steve Nash Curse would play out. Now, as you say, no pressure. Unless he really, really wants one over the other and would trade up with Philly to get it. Given Walton as coach, I'd think they would prefer Ingram. Given that Mitch doesn't seem capable of moving with the times, I'd think left to his own devices, he might prefer Simmons. But the reality will probably be to simply take which ever ones falls to him, and be thankful that his Nash fiasco is behind him.
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May 18, 2016 18:51
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Kataphract posted:It was a terrifying draft for Mitch. Fall one spot, and it would probably be trade bait, fall two, and the final catastrophe of the Steve Nash Curse would play out. Now, as you say, no pressure. Unless he really, really wants one over the other and would trade up with Philly to get it. Given Walton as coach, I'd think they would prefer Ingram. Given that Mitch doesn't seem capable of moving with the times, I'd think left to his own devices, he might prefer Simmons. But the reality will probably be to simply take which ever ones falls to him, and be thankful that his Nash fiasco is behind him. If this was true, and it's not, then the Lakers would've drafted Okafor last year. Paul Zuvella posted:This is actually really accurate. I think Simmons is a good enough facilitator that he could make it work, as long as you also have another ball handler on the floor who can shoot to counter teams that decide to just sag off him. Rick fucked around with this message at 19:02 on May 18, 2016 |
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May 18, 2016 18:57
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Metapod posted:Blake Griffin without the posterizing dunks Blake Griffin has a really good jump shot and is way stronger
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May 18, 2016 20:22
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MourningView posted:Blake Griffin has a really good jump shot and is way stronger He didn't have that jump shot at Oklahoma (I should have specified rookie griffin)
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May 18, 2016 20:26
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Assuming Bender is gone, I would take Buddy or Murray over anyone else if I am Minnesota.
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May 18, 2016 20:28
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Hand Row posted:Assuming Bender is gone, I would take Buddy or Murray over anyone else if I am Minnesota. No! He's coming to Memphis after they trade up
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May 18, 2016 20:31
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So Simmons is Blake Griffin minus the highlight reel and Brandon Ingram is Kevin Durant but worse in every way.
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May 18, 2016 20:36
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Is it too late for Simmons to develop a jump shot?
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May 18, 2016 20:40
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Metapod posted:Blake Griffin without the posterizing dunks I'll take it . Let's go.
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May 18, 2016 20:46
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Simmons is a much more advanced passer, has a better handle, and is quicker than OU Blake though. Idk I don't think they're that similar. Simmons doesn't really remind me of anyone.
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May 18, 2016 20:48
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straight up brolic posted:Simmons is a much more advanced passer, has a better handle, and is quicker than OU Blake though. Idk I don't think they're that similar. Simmons doesn't really remind me of anyone. Boris??
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May 18, 2016 20:51
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euphronius posted:Boris?? Magic.
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May 18, 2016 20:56
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euphronius posted:Boris?? Boris and Lamar, this draft owns
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May 18, 2016 20:58
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Blake was also hella explosive on his first step to the basket, its probably his most important tool. I haven't watched much of Simmons but I haven't heard that about him.NickRoweFillea posted:No! He's coming to Memphis after they trade up What you offering for #5?
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May 18, 2016 21:12
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Lamar Odom seems like the best Simmons comparison to me.
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May 18, 2016 21:38
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I wouldn't be shocked if Ben Simmons does best as a small ball center, at least initially.
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May 18, 2016 21:38
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Simmons is like Griffin when CP3 is out and he takes on more of a point-forward role, minus the dunks and jumper
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Criminal Minded posted:Lamar Odom seems like the best Simmons comparison to me. Odom was a much much better shooter than Simmons, but some form of a Odom/Rondo/Diaw hybrid probably is the best comparison.
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May 18, 2016 21:41
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Lockback posted:Blake was also hella explosive on his first step to the basket, its probably his most important tool. I haven't watched much of Simmons but I haven't heard that about him.
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May 18, 2016 21:55
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Hand Row posted:How would he compare to Giannis?
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May 18, 2016 22:01
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The Glumslinger posted:I wouldn't be shocked if Ben Simmons does best as a small ball center, at least initially. You're saying if the Lakers get him, I'm guessing. On the Sixers, he'd probably be a tall ball pg.
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May 18, 2016 22:04
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iamsosmrt posted:You're saying if the Lakers get him, I'm guessing. On the Sixers, he'd probably be a tall ball pg. I mean, he obviously wouldn't get the chance to play center on the 76ers, but in a vacuum I think it would work best for him. His inability to shoot would less important, and his speed in the P&R (as both the ball handler and the roller) would be emphasized. I think he is big enough to do it, and is a good enough rebounder to get away with it.
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May 18, 2016 22:08
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Considering the success that the Bucks had with Giannis bringing the ball up the court, and that Lebron does too about half the time he's on the floor for Cleveland, I can see the Sixers letting Simmons run point a lot. It'd be interesting letting a rookie do it but there's no-one else on the roster at the moment who would be better and may as well see what he's got asap. Try it for a twenty game stretch and If it works then you could be onto a revolutionary offense, if it doesn't then don't worry you were probably going to suck anyway.
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May 18, 2016 22:10
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My biggest issue with the discourse around Simmons is that, sure, there are some flaws, but that's all anyone wants to talk about when he's the only forward in this draft who currently has elite NBA skills. He's coming into the draft as a 19 year old who is currently at the same stage of development as someone like Giannis. There's no one else in this draft that combines his level of athleticism and polish in the things he CAN do.
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May 18, 2016 22:14
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straight up brolic posted:My biggest issue with the discourse around Simmons is that, sure, there are some flaws, but that's all anyone wants to talk about when he's the only forward in this draft who currently has elite NBA skills. He's coming into the draft as a 19 year old who is currently at the same stage of development as someone like Giannis. There's no one else in this draft that combines his level of athleticism and polish in the things he CAN do. Its the Andrew Wiggins thing. We've had so long to look at his faults, and have people look cool by going against the grain that people take it to heart. People were doing this exact same thing with Wiggins and Jabari before the draft.
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Lockback posted:Blake was also hella explosive on his first step to the basket, its probably his most important tool. I haven't watched much of Simmons but I haven't heard that about him. Minnesota...hm. Mario Chalmers, Vince Carter, and the 17th pick
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May 18, 2016 22:18
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The Glumslinger posted:Its the Andrew Wiggins thing. We've had so long to look at his faults, and have people look cool by going against the grain that people take it to heart. People were doing this exact same thing with Wiggins and Jabari before the draft. You still see it with Wiggins even now where plenty of people (not so much on here thankfully) seem to write him off as a bust because he has the temerity to not be an All-Star in his second season. He's going to be really good - maybe not an MVP level player (though who knows), but then if he and Towns stick together he won't have to be.
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NickRoweFillea posted:Minnesota...hm. Mario Chalmers, Vince Carter, and the 17th pick Enjoy watching Buddy score buckets with super friends KAT and Rubio.
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