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New Poland DDquote:Hello everyone! We are getting close to release now with preorder started a few days ago.
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# ? May 20, 2016 14:59 |
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Here is another cool WW2 vid, first is a lecture about the context surrounding the battle of Kurst, second a comparison of production figures and philosophies by country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6xLMUifbxQ Enjoy fucked around with this message at 15:28 on May 20, 2016 |
# ? May 20, 2016 15:08 |
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One thing that worries me about HoI4 is that you need "naval supremacy" to conduct a naval invasion. In WW2 there were many invasions done with one side having an air force/navy. Like Guadalcanal where the IJN showed up. Or Port Moresby where the USN showed up. Etc... WIll we be able to launch invasions despite the enemy having a navy or do we have to dismantle their entire fleet before we can even invade small islands in the outer pacific.
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# ? May 20, 2016 15:45 |
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Phi230 posted:One thing that worries me about HoI4 is that you need "naval supremacy" to conduct a naval invasion. Naval supremacy is a percentage. I think you need to be 75% in control of a sea zone to do a landing, so it's not like a single destroyer can meander past and prevent the whole thing.
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# ? May 20, 2016 15:47 |
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yeah, I know that it is well written and all, I was just wondering if there was going to be any dlc for it. A few font packs would be nice
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# ? May 20, 2016 15:53 |
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God, a Between the Seas faction Poland game sounds fun as hell, except I know I'll never, ever be good enough at HoI to pull it off. edit: Also, I wonder what other nations might get minor DLCs like this. I feel like China probably deserves a whole expansion on a larger scale than this to flesh it out, so maybe Canada and Australia? The Netherlands? Spain? Empress Theonora fucked around with this message at 16:11 on May 20, 2016 |
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Empress Theonora posted:God, a Between the Seas faction Poland game sounds fun as hell, except I know I'll never, ever be good enough at HoI to pull it off. I fully expect China to be one of the first, and also stuff for Canada/Australia, both Spains, and probably Sweden (because it's Paradox, even if Sweden didn't fight in the war) coming within 6 months.
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# ? May 20, 2016 16:23 |
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Oh dear.
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# ? May 20, 2016 16:32 |
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-ignore this post-
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# ? May 20, 2016 16:33 |
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mackintosh posted:Oh dear. Wait, why ? Is this controversial or something? This seems like a pretty good focus tree for a relatively minor power that has a chance - long though it may be - of becoming a real major player or kingmaker if played well. What's the problem here?
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# ? May 20, 2016 16:49 |
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I think its because they said they wanted this one to be paid DLC, and future ones will definitely be. People already have issues with Paradox's DLC policy.
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# ? May 20, 2016 16:53 |
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people are being stupid
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# ? May 20, 2016 16:58 |
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Drone posted:I fully expect China to be one of the first, and also stuff for Canada/Australia, both Spains, and probably Sweden (because it's Paradox, even if Sweden didn't fight in the war) coming within 6 months. I'd be surprised if Hungary and Romania didn't get ones at some point. Maybe Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia too if they're doing Poland?
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:17 |
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I guess I don't understand why they can't use the regular war ensign. I understand that it contains the swastika and some people will be absolutely against anything with a swastika in it, but this is a historical game. If you don't like a historical symbol, don't play a historical game. In my humble opinion, "political correctness" (as long as law permits) should not override historicity when it comes to things like this. If German censorship laws require a different flag, then by all means, let the Germans have a different historical flag just like they have the darkened portraits. If this will not be done (which I realize it won't), then I agree that the edited flag should be scrapped and a different historical flag should be substituted for everyone. We have something similar going on here in the US with Confederate symbols and monuments from our civil war. As a Civil War historian, this kind of thing really rubs me the wrong way.
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:22 |
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Kaza42 posted:Wait, why ? Is this controversial or something? This seems like a pretty good focus tree for a relatively minor power that has a chance - long though it may be - of becoming a real major player or kingmaker if played well. What's the problem here? Intermarium (i.e. between the seas) has never been a very popular concept with our neighbours, mostly due to the fact that it always assumed that Poland would lead such a pan-slavic alliance. This idea was further bastardised by the far-right, which advocated for a rebirth of a Polish Empire stretching from the Baltic to the Black Sea. Also, the last thing you ever want to do is to name anything Polish after Polish historical figures. There will always be a large group convinced they were traitors.
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:27 |
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This isn't political correctness, it's Paradox - a business - making a business decision to avoid any potential legal trouble in one specific national market saving them time and money in the long run.
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:27 |
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:I guess I don't understand why they can't use the regular war ensign. I understand that it contains the swastika and some people will be absolutely against anything with a swastika in it, but this is a historical game. If you don't like a historical symbol, don't play a historical game. In my humble opinion, "political correctness" (as long as law permits) should not override historicity when it comes to things like this. If German censorship laws require a different flag, then by all means, let the Germans have a different historical flag just like they have the darkened portraits. If this will not be done (which I realize it won't), then I agree that the edited flag should be scrapped and a different historical flag should be substituted for everyone. Well yeah but Germany literally has a law against the swastika.
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:30 |
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If you want Nazi symbols so bad just downliad the day 1 DLC for ut Pdox is providing.
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:36 |
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it's a copy/paste from the official forums
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:41 |
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Empress Theonora posted:it's a copy/paste from the official forums Nazi grogs tricked me again
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:43 |
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If you have not been on the HoI4 forums I recommend it highly. If for nothing else than the fact that they have enabled the leader portraits as avatars. The amount of forum users who have chosen a forum avatar of a German general and post about the censorship of the game or Paradox's misleading practices is almost 100%
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:47 |
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:If you have not been on the HoI4 forums I recommend it highly. If for nothing else than the fact that they have enabled the leader portraits as avatars. The amount of forum users who have chosen a forum avatar of a German general and post about the censorship of the game or Paradox's misleading practices is almost 100% My own personal discomfort notwithstanding, there's nothing wrong with somebody deciding to play as Germany if that's something they're okay with, since there are many different ways to engage with games about history, all of them valid. If you're actually using a portrait of a Nazi general in full SS regalia as your avatar though you're probably a creep.
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:51 |
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mackintosh posted:Intermarium (i.e. between the seas) has never been a very popular concept with our neighbours, mostly due to the fact that it always assumed that Poland would lead such a pan-slavic alliance. This idea was further bastardised by the far-right, which advocated for a rebirth of a Polish Empire stretching from the Baltic to the Black Sea. Lebensraum wasn't really a popular idea with Germany's neighbors either, and I doubt the USA waging a worldwide colonial war with Britain is a widely supported idea either. Focus trees have room for both historical and ahistorical (and even completely implausible) ideas and paths to take, since it's more fun that way. The rebirth of a Polish Empire should absolutely be a thing supported by the game, much the same way that a fascist USA invading Mexico as a gateway to South America is.
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:52 |
So I found this fantastic radio site that lets you pick a country and a decade and it'll take you through a playlist of popular music from the era. No idea how completely accurate it is, but it's going to be pretty great for HOI4 background music: http://radiooooo.com/
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:53 |
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They should just set the German flag to a hardcoded "nazi punks gently caress off" album cover
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# ? May 20, 2016 17:59 |
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I hope supply is easier in this game. I know that it's important to have real supply limitations in areas like Africa and parts of South America, but there should be an arduous way to solve it. Invading South America and turning it against its Yankee masters owns.Ghost of Mussolini posted:I guess I don't understand why they can't use the regular war ensign. I understand that it contains the swastika and some people will be absolutely against anything with a swastika in it, but this is a historical game. If you don't like a historical symbol, don't play a historical game. In my humble opinion, "political correctness" (as long as law permits) should not override historicity when it comes to things like this. If German censorship laws require a different flag, then by all means, let the Germans have a different historical flag just like they have the darkened portraits. If this will not be done (which I realize it won't), then I agree that the edited flag should be scrapped and a different historical flag should be substituted for everyone. My favorite part is that he calls himself a "civil war" historian, like he's the Shelby Foote of the PDox forums.
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:00 |
"Civil War historian" on the Paradox forums tends to mean "owns some Confederate flag paraphernalia" and/or is someone who is 90% likely to refer to it as the War of Northern Aggression.
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:04 |
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:If you have not been on the HoI4 forums I recommend it highly. If for nothing else than the fact that they have enabled the leader portraits as avatars. The amount of forum users who have chosen a forum avatar of a German general and post about the censorship of the game or Paradox's misleading practices is almost 100% Well played.
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:07 |
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Drone posted:"Civil War historian" on the Paradox forums tends to mean "owns some Confederate flag paraphernalia" and/or is someone who is 90% likely to refer to it as the War of Northern Aggression. Of course one of the mod ideas that seems to be getting the most community interest is one that adds in the CSA.
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:13 |
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1337JiveTurkey posted:Of course one of the mod ideas that seems to be getting the most community interest is one that adds in the CSA. On the bright side that opens the possibility for a US player to reenact Sherman's march with Sherman tanks, although that's probably not what the modders had in mind.
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:16 |
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1337JiveTurkey posted:Of course one of the mod ideas that seems to be getting the most community interest is one that adds in the CSA. Tbh i would love that so I could burn the south down again
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:20 |
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Drone posted:Also yeah the dude who bought that red text is a pretty big idiot and probably could have given that :tenbux: to some charity for abused tanks. Every day dozens of abused tanks have to be put to sleep for lack of repair facilities: For just $10 a neglected Panther can have its final drive replaced, enabling it to enjoy life to the fullest for an almost 20km road march. Please donate today!
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:22 |
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Empress Theonora posted:On the bright side that opens the possibility for a US player to reenact Sherman's march with Sherman tanks, although that's probably not what the modders had in mind. I think they expect it to go the other way with some sort of Southern blitzkrieg strategy since both them and wehraboos are really into the whole underdogs who took on the world with superior strategy, willpower and genes while their opponents were idiotic butchers schtick.
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:30 |
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Empress Theonora posted:On the bright side that opens the possibility for a US player to reenact Sherman's march with Sherman tanks, although that's probably not what the modders had in mind. You know how to mod right? Be first and create a mod where that is the point. Then watch the forum / workshop burns.
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:34 |
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Hot drat, almost 100 posts in this thread since I last checked? I bet something really cool happened! .... oh. Fellblade posted:Having Devs posting on the forums is great but it sure sucks when some random amateur historian thinks they know game development better than somebody who has been making games every day for years. No, but see, you just don't get it. If they don't make tanks the best thing ever then that won't lead to research to give me gundams!!! Tanks are literally superior to every other form of warfare ever made and can only be made better by putting legs and wings on them, which is pretty obviously where Hitler was going before the war ended. The only reason those German tanks broke down invading Russia is because they didn't have ENOUGH wings and legs!!!! Any idiot can see this. Paradox should hire me for history consultation, obv.
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:37 |
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Hey I am all for mechas in hoi 4. Not even being ironic. But the thing is that tanks are a dead end, mechas are the future.
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:41 |
Groogy you need to reinstate the hedgehog, I find it really hard to distinguish your posts now
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:46 |
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Groogy posted:But the thing is that tanks are a dead end, mechas are the future.
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:48 |
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This is no Sherman, boy! No Sherman!
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# ? May 20, 2016 18:49 |
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ExtraNoise posted:No, but see, you just don't get it. If they don't make tanks the best thing ever then that won't lead to research to give me gundams!!! Tanks are literally superior to every other form of warfare ever made and can only be made better by putting legs and wings on them, which is pretty obviously where Hitler was going before the war ended. The only reason those German tanks broke down invading Russia is because they didn't have ENOUGH wings and legs!!!! Any idiot can see this. Paradox should hire me for history consultation, obv. Pfft. The Russians would just design mechas that run on unrefined crude and could be stripped down and reassembled in 15 mins by an illiterate farm boy.
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