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Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
Extra curricular poo poo also sucks if you have like say, a single parent who works all the time and you don't live near the school so you absolutely have to take the bus or you are hosed for getting home. Plus it costs more money and stuff. Basically it sucks being poor in America, shocking news.

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mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Jerry Cotton posted:

You learn how to open a bank account by going into a bank and telling them you want to open an account.

People are idiots. I've had staff in their 20's that act like it requires skill to open a bank account and I've had to coach them to just go f'n ask for one!

That's not even the worst buffoonery I deal with. I have person from a neighboring company in my building that always plugs up the toilet on our floor and gets poo poo on the seat. He literally is unable to wipe without getting poo poo on the seat. He won't poo poo in his own suite. He comes down to our public bathroom in the hall and blasts rear end. I often see him scurrying away and I know that I'll have to call maintenance.

He's a financial adviser at an investment firm.

Grumbletron 4000
Nov 30, 2002

Where you want it, bitch.
College Slice
I'm beginning to think Bluetooth headsets are becoming obsolete. It wasn't long ago that you would see lots of people walking around with them jammed in their ear whether they were talking or not. Now I never see them in public but I see more people than ever with the white corded earbud mic. I work around a lot of truckers and they all still use the Bluetooth earpieces, but giant industrial looking ones.

I'm guessing the hassle of making sure those things were charged and paired at all times might have led to their decline.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Talk-only headsets are obsolete, but over-the-neck a2dp (stereo music) ones are everywhere

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

I'm beginning to think Bluetooth headsets are becoming obsolete. It wasn't long ago that you would see lots of people walking around with them jammed in their ear whether they were talking or not. Now I never see them in public but I see more people than ever with the white corded earbud mic. I work around a lot of truckers and they all still use the Bluetooth earpieces, but giant industrial looking ones.

I'm guessing the hassle of making sure those things were charged and paired at all times might have led to their decline.

I use one at work, but you're right, it's really only good in certain jobs or situations where you can keep it readily charged. Sure, I can pair my BT headset to my smartphone, but it's got a weird proprietary charging base that's bulky and not very portable :( sucks because it's got great range and clarity.

joshtothemaxx
Nov 17, 2008

I will have a whole army of zombies! A zombie Marine Corps, a zombie Navy Corps, zombie Space Cadets...

Light Gun Man posted:

Extra curricular poo poo also sucks if you have like say, a single parent who works all the time and you don't live near the school so you absolutely have to take the bus or you are hosed for getting home. Plus it costs more money and stuff. Basically it sucks being poor in America, shocking news.

The 7pm activity bus was awful bull poo poo and was my #1 motivation for getting my license on time. That and girls.

I'd also like to echo frustration with the lack of critical thinking being taught in red states. I just finished teaching a Stats 101 class to a group of college freshmen and advanced high school seniors. Only 3 of my students could reliably plug numbers into a formula. God help them if they had to explain the reasoning behind probability calculations.

Obsolete tech: calculators that aren't graphing. Every single one of my students used their phone or a TI-83. The college had a rule that only standalone calculators could be used, but gently caress that. I'm not making 20+ students in a community college waste money a four function calculator. I'll just monitor the room like a creep to prevent the more obvious cheating.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

joshtothemaxx posted:

Obsolete tech: calculators that aren't graphing. Every single one of my students used their phone or a TI-83. The college had a rule that only standalone calculators could be used, but gently caress that. I'm not making 20+ students in a community college waste money a four function calculator. I'll just monitor the room like a creep to prevent the more obvious cheating.

My training/certification institute uses them on exams to mitigate cheating. All candidates have to surrender their phones and are given cheap calculators with our logo to use. They have to give them back, but surprisingly they still get stolen sometimes.

It's a bigger deal for us because we have major accreditation at stake, so we need to keep to strict security standards.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

I'm beginning to think Bluetooth headsets are becoming obsolete. It wasn't long ago that you would see lots of people walking around with them jammed in their ear whether they were talking or not. Now I never see them in public but I see more people than ever with the white corded earbud mic. I work around a lot of truckers and they all still use the Bluetooth earpieces, but giant industrial looking ones.

I'm guessing the hassle of making sure those things were charged and paired at all times might have led to their decline.

For me, Bluetooth headphones will generally be A Thing because I'll forever want to listen to a podcast in bed, despite being a flop-around-to-get-comfortable kind of guy.

(the only damage I have to my phone has been forgetting that I had wired headphones in one night.)

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



joshtothemaxx posted:

I'd also like to echo frustration with the lack of critical thinking being taught in red states.

Riiiiight, only in the "red states"

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Malachi Constant posted:

As a newly-minted high school physics teacher this as been the most frustrating part of my first year. If I ask my students a question that requires then to infer something about reality based on math they are baffled and annoyed by what they perceive as a nonsensical and wholly alien type of question. (Example: You're pushing a box along the floor. Given that force = mass x acceleration, if the mass is constant what happens to the acceleration when the force is decreased? [Yeah, really. They think it's just a math question and don't bring their basic logic to bear.])

It's easy to lay the blame on their previous math teachers, but I suspect that they're required to teach and reinforce so many basic mechanical aspects of math that they aren't able to spend the time to get into mathematical reasoning.

That seems like... really basic reasoning, though. The sort of thing you learn to do as sanity checking when using a calculator: is the biggerness/smallerness sticking properly? Are kids seriously that messed up coming into high school now?

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

I had an argument with someone who insisted that all objects have the same terminal velocity because galileo proved it.

Like... dude. Have you ever dropped a balloon?

Powerlurker
Oct 21, 2010

chitoryu12 posted:

The extracurricular activities aren't usually part of the school day. The school day is 7 to 8 hours, but activities like band rehearsals, Color Guard, theatre, and sports are held afterward. It's also expected for any students with cars to take up a job to pay for their own gas, and poor students often have to work to help their family.

It's just that you don't get a lot of focus on anything important when you get forced into calculus and advanced chemistry that you have no plans to study in college.

At my high school, band was an actual class that took place during school hours and gave course credit. Marching band and theater were extracurricular though.

nocal
Mar 7, 2007

Tunicate posted:

I had an argument with someone who insisted that all objects have the same terminal velocity because galileo proved it.

Like... dude. Have you ever dropped a balloon?

I suppose you think someone will be triggered by your physics joke

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
I doubt he's posting from a total vaccum

darkhand
Jan 18, 2010

This beard just won't do!
Your posting sucks

joshtothemaxx
Nov 17, 2008

I will have a whole army of zombies! A zombie Marine Corps, a zombie Navy Corps, zombie Space Cadets...

Pham Nuwen posted:

Riiiiight, only in the "red states"

Fair enough. But I've definitely had a shittier experience teaching Middle "Muslim foot washing stations" Tennessee than rural Virginia.

Grumbletron 4000
Nov 30, 2002

Where you want it, bitch.
College Slice

MisterBibs posted:

For me, Bluetooth headphones will generally be A Thing because I'll forever want to listen to a podcast in bed, despite being a flop-around-to-get-comfortable kind of guy.

(the only damage I have to my phone has been forgetting that I had wired headphones in one night.)

Wireless headphones for music is awesome and they're getting better all the time. I have a pair that I use for when I'm doing yard work or cycling. I was referring to the

ones that plug into one ear for phone calls. Usually with an obnoxious blue led.

Those things were super popular a few years ago but now the people that used them, or would have used them just use the wired headset mics.

My headphones have a mic for phone calls but I never use them for that. If I get a call I just hold the phone up to my head like god intended.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Powerlurker posted:

At my high school, band was an actual class that took place during school hours and gave course credit. Marching band and theater were extracurricular though.

Ours was the same. Band referred properly to a class that taught instrumentation and was a course credit, but had other stuff like marching band and rehearsals for performances that took place after hours. Theatre was extracurricular (except for some summer plays that were offered as credit, which unfortunately led to a flood of people who didn't give a poo poo about acting being thrown into the ensemble of Grease that were a total pain in the rear end to work with), but the Acting classes were course credit during the school day and were almost exclusively populated by the theatre kids.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


My Science teacher had a practical series of classes on brewing ginger beer (non-alcoholic of course). But, being Australia - some of us read the next few pages in the textbook and half the class ended up with alcoholic stuff that was pretty darn tasty.

Our Mathematics teacher however was a bit of a loose canon. He created a 'fun project' where we all get a bag of fun sized candy bars and gambled on horses coded in an excel document with all sorts of calculations on the odds etc. He also taught us not balancing checkbooks, but balancing a huge number of credit cards in a way to delay paying back debt. He was interesting.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

joshtothemaxx posted:

Obsolete tech: calculators that aren't graphing. Every single one of my students used their phone or a TI-83. The college had a rule that only standalone calculators could be used, but gently caress that. I'm not making 20+ students in a community college waste money a four function calculator. I'll just monitor the room like a creep to prevent the more obvious cheating.

You do realize most calculators sold these days are non-graphing non-scientific calculators used for simple calculations by people who work with numbers a lot? Table-top calculators are just so much easier and faster to use than using Windows Calculator or whatever (:lol: at using a phone calculator app for actual work) because you don't have to switch between windows or anything. And small pocket calculators are used by like a million or more warehouse and logistics workers.

Of course applications should be built in such a way that no-one ever needs to do simple calculations but applications are both designed and written by nerds and nerds are literally poo poo.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Keiya posted:

Are kids seriously that messed up coming into high school now?

Eh, I don't think it's a now vs. then thing--throughout history, kids have pretty much always been idiots.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Trabant posted:

There are three big reasons I can think of:

1) Unemployment rates are unambiguously worse for those without higher education:




Gee how the gently caress does that happen?

http://betanews.com/2016/05/16/google-paying-20-an-hour-to-sit-in-self-driving-car/

quote:

Google will require the drivers to have a bachelor’s degree

It's a total mystery, must be those people who didn't go to college aren't trying hard enough.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

mostlygray posted:

People are idiots. I've had staff in their 20's that act like it requires skill to open a bank account and I've had to coach them to just go f'n ask for one!

That's not even the worst buffoonery I deal with. I have person from a neighboring company in my building that always plugs up the toilet on our floor and gets poo poo on the seat. He literally is unable to wipe without getting poo poo on the seat. He won't poo poo in his own suite. He comes down to our public bathroom in the hall and blasts rear end. I often see him scurrying away and I know that I'll have to call maintenance.

He's a financial adviser at an investment firm.

What?

Don't people wipe while they're still sitting on the toilet? I don't think I could even manage to wipe in a way that leaves poo poo anywhere but the inside of my toilet, unless I stand up and start twerking.

So many questions.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Non Serviam posted:

What?

Don't people wipe while they're still sitting on the toilet? I don't think I could even manage to wipe in a way that leaves poo poo anywhere but the inside of my toilet, unless I stand up and start twerking.

So many questions.

There's a picture that explains it all.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Jerry Cotton posted:

You do realize most calculators sold these days are non-graphing non-scientific calculators used for simple calculations by people who work with numbers a lot? Table-top calculators are just so much easier and faster to use than using Windows Calculator or whatever (:lol: at using a phone calculator app for actual work) because you don't have to switch between windows or anything. And small pocket calculators are used by like a million or more warehouse and logistics workers.

Of course applications should be built in such a way that no-one ever needs to do simple calculations but applications are both designed and written by nerds and nerds are literally poo poo.

I use my iPhone calculator when doing things like hand scoring exams, because I could subtract 15, 8, and 31 from 100 in my head....but I really don't want to spend the effort. It works just as well as any "real" calculator, and you can turn the phone sideways to expand it to a bunch of other functions. The only flaw is that there's a very slight delay between pressing a "button" and the calculator registering it, so if you're a fast typist you can try to add 4+3+5 and accidentally type 43+5.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

chitoryu12 posted:

I use my iPhone calculator when doing things like hand scoring exams, because I could subtract 15, 8, and 31 from 100 in my head....but I really don't want to spend the effort. It works just as well as any "real" calculator

No, it doesn't. As you yourself very clearly point out in the very next sentence?

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
LMAO use Matlab or Scilab like normal people, jeez.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Jerry Cotton posted:

No, it doesn't. As you yourself very clearly point out in the very next sentence?

I meant that in terms of functionality, it does exactly the same thing. You plug in the numbers correctly and it'll spit out the exact same answer. You just can't type at lightning speed without messing up.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Non Serviam posted:

What?

Don't people wipe while they're still sitting on the toilet? I don't think I could even manage to wipe in a way that leaves poo poo anywhere but the inside of my toilet, unless I stand up and start twerking.

So many questions.

Are you saying you wipe while you're sitting on the toilet?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

atomicthumbs posted:

Are you saying you wipe while you're sitting on the toilet?

I see our next derail has been chosen.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


chitoryu12 posted:

I meant that in terms of functionality, it does exactly the same thing. You plug in the numbers correctly and it'll spit out the exact same answer. You just can't type at lightning speed without messing up.

Yeah it's basically an issue that it works fine but you can't really touch-type on it like you can with something with physical buttons. Which when doing actual work is generally something you want!

I mean I'm sure there is someone out there who has practiced enough on their phone to be able to touch-type but show me that person and I'll show you a nutcase

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
robots

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

chitoryu12 posted:

I see our next derail has been chosen.

I submit pooping out of your butt will be obsolete soon given Jerry Cotton's significant contribution to the reverse method.

darkhand
Jan 18, 2010

This beard just won't do!

Butts

Robutts

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Shugojin posted:

Yeah it's basically an issue that it works fine but you can't really touch-type on it like you can with something with physical buttons. Which when doing actual work is generally something you want!

I mean I'm sure there is someone out there who has practiced enough on their phone to be able to touch-type but show me that person and I'll show you a nutcase

We've had useful touchscreens and smartphones for, what, less than a decade? I guarantee your grandkids will be giving you poo poo about this

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


ryonguy posted:

We've had useful touchscreens and smartphones for, what, less than a decade? I guarantee your grandkids will be giving you poo poo about this

Probably, but as it stands there is no way to build that but pure repetition that becomes counterproductive once you change the screen size and therefore the button placement. Maybe once someone figures out a non lovely way to do haptic feedback or we all agree on a correct phone screen size.

E: malapropisms

Shugojin has a new favorite as of 01:41 on May 27, 2016

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

atomicthumbs posted:

Are you saying you wipe while you're sitting on the toilet?

Yes. Isn't this how everyone does it?

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

darkhand posted:

Butts

Robutts

Yup, can't even remember the last time I fired up the old robutt

darkhand
Jan 18, 2010

This beard just won't do!

ryonguy posted:

We've had useful touchscreens and smartphones for, what, less than a decade? I guarantee your grandkids will be giving you poo poo about this

He's talking about touch screen and precise movements. I think everyone can agree touchscreens are good for certain applications using gestures, but definitely falls apart for pixel point accuracy, or even simulating actual tactical feedback. I think touchscreens in cars are possibly the dumbest thing, it removes being able to rely on muscle memory and keeping your eyes on the road. Because you can just feel around on actual buttons, like OK here's the volume so the next button is station 1. Same for TV remotes.

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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Shugojin posted:

Yeah it's basically an issue that it works fine but you can't really touch-type on it like you can with something with physical buttons. Which when doing actual work is generally something you want!

I mean I'm sure there is someone out there who has practiced enough on their phone to be able to touch-type but show me that person and I'll show you a nutcase

Your phone doesn't have physical buttons?

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