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I have a dual monitor setup, and I usually play games on my main monitor while throwing an LP or something on youtube on the secondary one. Since upgrading to Windows 10 every time I do this it impacts performance quite noticeably, my fps drop from around 90 to 40something playing Dirt Rally, the input feels weird, like it's processing it in bursts, and youtube playback is choppy as well. Any ideas what may be causing this? I know it's not normal since I've been doing this for years on 7 without any impact on games whatsoever. I have hardware acceleration disabled on chrome, and it's playing HTML5 (so no hardware acceleration on flash to tweak).
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May 22, 2016 15:36
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Avenida posted:Given that those are steps that aren't necessary for 90% of Windows installs, yes, I would consider that "jumping through hoops". Well, then installing Windows is "jumping through hoops" then, because 90% of computers users never install a new version. Adding "downloading a driver" and "unzipping it to a directory on a thumb drive" is less onerous than that, because people download and unzip from the internet all the time. If you want proof of that, just look at the InfoSec thread. 
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May 22, 2016 15:54
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Avenida posted:Given that those are steps that aren't necessary for 90% of Windows installs, yes, I would consider that "jumping through hoops". I feel like the thing missing here is that 90% of Windows installs are either old machines with USB 2.0 where the drivers are built into everything going back to XP, or they're new machines with Windows 8.1/10 which has drivers for USB 3.0. If you stick a USB 3.0 card in a Windows 7 machine you'll have to install drivers, and this is basically the same situation but the 3.0 controller just happens to be built into the motherboard instead of an add-on card. This isn't really a new thing, you're just noticing it because now a new revision of USB has come out since your favorite Windows revision. Also, in general many people seem to have developed this expectation that they shouldn't have to install drivers for things built into the motherboard. This is often the case and it's a huge improvement over how things used to be (try installing XP and seeing how many drivers are included, even on a system from the era), but it doesn't always work and now that it's taken for granted that's considered a failure instead of just the way things are. Eletriarnation fucked around with this message at 16:17 on May 22, 2016 |
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May 22, 2016 16:13
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Eletriarnation posted:I would guess that the Education version is exclusively for volume licensing agreements. I got my copy from DreamSpark Premium (what they renamed MSDNAA to), so I don't know.
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May 22, 2016 17:52
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Col.Kiwi posted:The problem is that your windows 7 disc does not have USB and/or SATA drivers for your Z170 motherboard because you are attempting to install a 7 year old OS on new hardware. If you really want to continue with this you now have enough detail to google for solutions, but you will have to jump through some hoops. Avenida posted:Given that those are steps that aren't necessary for 90% of Windows installs, yes, I would consider that "jumping through hoops". 'Drop the needed drivers on the USB' is fewer words than he used to explain why he wouldn't be choosing to simply give the answer. I suppose you can defend that, but you would have to jump through some hoops to do it.
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May 22, 2016 21:11
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Khablam posted:'Drop the needed drivers on the USB' is fewer words than he used to explain why he wouldn't be choosing to simply give the answer. Edit: and considering he didn't figure out on his own what the problem was, no offense to him or you but he's going to need more details than "get the needed drivers" or he wouldn't have needed help diagnosing the problem. Maybe some people think of "jumping through hoops" as meaning something that is a big pain in the rear end? To me it just means "you will need to follow some extra steps" so maybe that's why there was confusion. I'm genuinely surprised that there is actually this much discussion about this but hey it's cause we're all nerds and nerds are awesome. Col.Kiwi fucked around with this message at 22:05 on May 22, 2016 |
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May 22, 2016 22:00
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Col.Kiwi posted:Maybe some people think of "jumping through hoops" as meaning something that is a big pain in the rear end? That's exactly what the phrase means
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May 22, 2016 22:29
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djssniper posted:That's exactly what the phrase means https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/jump_through_hoops It does not mention a lot of effort being involved. Can't say I've run into this misunderstanding when using the phrase in the past. This is the nerdiest post I've ever made. Are we still talking about this?
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May 22, 2016 23:40
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Col.Kiwi posted:Well idioms don't really have exact definitions but when you look here It's commonly defined as 'perform a difficult and gruelling series of tests' so yes, the language you used was problematic and doing a weird half-step walk back on it doesn't really get you anywhere, especially when you later give the reason as "most people are idiots so I was treating him like an idiot" -- despite that you didn't even give a hint what he might want to be looking for. Your post smelled of someone tutting and sighing as they spoke down to someone whilst giving basic advice; something you get from lovely tier1 tech support.
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May 23, 2016 00:43
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Col.Kiwi posted:The problem is that your windows 7 disc does not have USB and/or SATA drivers for your Z170 motherboard because you are attempting to install a 7 year old OS on new hardware. If you really want to continue with this you now have enough detail to google for solutions, but you will have to jump through some hoops. ahahaha I had this same issue with a build last week. Finally said fuckit and installed 10 with no product key, then ran the windows 7 install from within 10 and registered it, THEN reinstalled 10 from scratch and it picked up the product key and all is good
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May 23, 2016 15:04
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Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:ahahaha I had this same issue with a build last week. Finally said fuckit and installed 10 with no product key, then ran the windows 7 install from within 10 and registered it, THEN reinstalled 10 from scratch and it picked up the product key and all is good Protip: You can install 10 using a 7 or 8 product key as long as the upgrade offer is live.
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May 23, 2016 16:22
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Khablam posted:]despite that you didn't even give a hint what he might want to be looking for I was about to say I don't understand why you are being so hostile so me when I have not been at all hostile towards anyone. But I see what you say about how my post "smelled" so I guess this is one of those misunderstandings caused by text posts not conveying tone of voice. Believe me, I was far from tutting or sighing when I made that post. I was glad to point him in the right direction. I'm sorry that I managed to sound smarmy by accident. I was trying to help and clearly I should've phrased it differently. Let's stop this derail.
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May 23, 2016 18:44
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So the start button continues to "break", necessitating a reboot. Anyone else experience this? I've seen this at work and at home now, makes it a real pain when you want to lock a workstation or etc. Also I have to say that the latest upgrade trick they pulled was pretty despicable, that's some poo poo I expect from malware.
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May 26, 2016 12:40
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The Gunslinger posted:So the start button continues to "break", necessitating a reboot. Anyone else experience this? I've seen this at work and at home now, makes it a real pain when you want to lock a workstation or etc. I personally gave up on the stock Start Menu and installed a replacement. Check out: Classic Shell, Start10, StartIsBack.
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May 26, 2016 12:47
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The Gunslinger posted:
You mean the articles written by rich macusers that have newer used/seen Windows and don't know that pressing X simply closes the window and nothing else. Or something else.
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May 26, 2016 14:57
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xamphear posted:Windows Key + L to lock your workstation. Faster than using the Start Menu, even when it does decide to work. No that's what I mean, the windows key itself just gets disabled until a reboot. You can't use any windows key shortcuts. The actual start button still works. I've seen this across several different configurations now and can't figure it out.
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May 26, 2016 15:24
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MikusR posted:You mean the articles written by rich macusers that have newer used/seen Windows and don't know that pressing X simply closes the window and nothing else. Or something else. http://www.pcworld.com/article/3074339/windows/how-to-escape-that-forced-windows-10-upgrade-you-mistakenly-agreed-to.html quote:Normally, closing the dialog box by clicking the red box in the upper righthand corner automatically opted out. Over the weekend, clicking that red box started opting users in to the upgrade.
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May 26, 2016 16:06
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The Gunslinger posted:So the start button continues to "break", necessitating a reboot. Anyone else experience this? I've seen this at work and at home now, makes it a real pain when you want to lock a workstation or etc. The Gunslinger posted:No that's what I mean, the windows key itself just gets disabled until a reboot. You can't use any windows key shortcuts. The actual start button still works. I've seen this across several different configurations now and can't figure it out. I had the Start button (on the screen, not the keyboard) break, and I couldn't open the Start menu or stuff like volume in the taskbar. I eventually tracked down that it was Dropbox interfering with that, and disable the plugin. I had to re-install it for work purposes (and 1Password), but that seems to have stopped happening. However, I could still do Windows+E to open an Explorer window, so I don't know if this is relevant to you or not. Try booting into safe mode or try disabling some start up services/apps.
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May 26, 2016 17:08
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The Gunslinger posted:No that's what I mean, the windows key itself just gets disabled until a reboot. You can't use any windows key shortcuts. The actual start button still works. I've seen this across several different configurations now and can't figure it out. Does the key combination Ctrl+Esc to open the start menu still work?
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May 26, 2016 17:33
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If you upgrade to 10 and then roll back to 7 before end of July, are you still in some database that allows you to re-upgrade to 10 after that, or are you in the same position as if you never upgraded(missed the boat)?
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May 26, 2016 18:28
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Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:If you upgrade to 10 and then roll back to 7 before end of July, are you still in some database that allows you to re-upgrade to 10 after that, or are you in the same position as if you never upgraded(missed the boat)? As far as I know you are good forever if you get activated once. I don't think they go through and purge inactive licenses from the server or anything like that.
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May 26, 2016 18:40
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Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:If you upgrade to 10 and then roll back to 7 before end of July, are you still in some database that allows you to re-upgrade to 10 after that, or are you in the same position as if you never upgraded(missed the boat)? So long as the hardware doesn't change from when you uninstalled Windows 10, it'll have the license. But if you significantly change the hardware while 10 isn't installed, it will not have a license. So finish any hardware changes by early July and make sure 10 was installed for them, and you'll be good.
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May 26, 2016 18:53
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The Gunslinger posted:So the start button continues to "break", necessitating a reboot. Anyone else experience this? I've seen this at work and at home now, makes it a real pain when you want to lock a workstation or etc.
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May 26, 2016 19:27
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Sion posted:I'm trying to upgrade to Windows 10 from 7 and the Windows Update window has been stuck on 'Preparing for the Upgrade please wait' with the useless green constantly scrolling progress bar for 2 hours now. Restart the Windows Update Service in Admin tools>services
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May 26, 2016 23:50
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Question: I changed the hard drive in my laptop from a HDD to an SDD and didn't transfer anything, nothing worth saving. I used a windows 10 flash drive to install Win10 and thinking I could just plop in the CD key from the other hard drive, but it wont work. Do I need a new copy of Windows?
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May 27, 2016 01:17
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Schroeder91 posted:Question: I changed the hard drive in my laptop from a HDD to an SDD and didn't transfer anything, nothing worth saving. I used a windows 10 flash drive to install Win10 and thinking I could just plop in the CD key from the other hard drive, but it wont work. Do I need a new copy of Windows?
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May 27, 2016 01:20
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ilkhan posted:Still have the HDD? Drop it in, do the upgrade to 10, be sure it activates, then swap the drives again. Should activate the fresh install when it checks in again. The old drive already has 10 on it. Literally just installed it on my desktop too  It's not wiped yet, as I'm actually on it right now so I could get the key to attempt to activate it.
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May 27, 2016 01:24
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Schroeder91 posted:Question: I changed the hard drive in my laptop from a HDD to an SDD and didn't transfer anything, nothing worth saving. I used a windows 10 flash drive to install Win10 and thinking I could just plop in the CD key from the other hard drive, but it wont work. Do I need a new copy of Windows?
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May 27, 2016 01:39
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I used a script to pull the key from the registry on the old hdd. I contacted support though and we found out I installed the wrong Windows. I needed Windows 10 Home and installed Windows 10 Home Single Language  Upgraded and it activated.
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May 27, 2016 02:09
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Schroeder91 posted:The old drive already has 10 on it. Literally just installed it on my desktop too
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May 27, 2016 02:13
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How does the Win10 license-hardware link work with a virtual machine? Do I need a different license for each VM/type of VM(say KVM vs virtualbox) or just one for the mobo?
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May 27, 2016 04:38
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I'd think the "digital entitlement" license doesn't work for VMs.
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May 27, 2016 11:44
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wolrah posted:Just to get the stupid question out of the way, do you have a "gamer" keyboard that has a Windows key disable function? No and I've seen this both at home and at work despite wildly different software/hardware configs. It hasn't happened today so far but next time it does I will just dump my whole event viewer log and start looking.
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May 27, 2016 12:21
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taqueso posted:How does the Win10 license-hardware link work with a virtual machine? Do I need a different license for each VM/type of VM(say KVM vs virtualbox) or just one for the mobo? nielsm posted:I'd think the "digital entitlement" license doesn't work for VMs. It worked fine for me in Virtualbox, but I assume further upgrades of the VM with different hardware might change too much.
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May 27, 2016 15:01
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Anyone using the new Insider Build 14352 have the speaker icon in the system tray show up as Muted even though the sound is on?
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May 28, 2016 14:19
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Anyone using the new Insider Build 14352 have the speaker icon in the system tray show up as Muted even though the sound is on? Yeah that's a known bug with the new build.
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May 28, 2016 14:34
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I upgraded from W7 a while back. I'm about to upgrade my cpu+mobo, which I know invalidates the upgraded license. OP says I might still be able to reinstall with my W7 key - is this still just a maybe, or has it been confirmed one way or another since? Either way, would I have to actually reinstall, or can I just plug in a product key and that's that?
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May 28, 2016 15:13
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Zack Ater posted:I upgraded from W7 a while back. I'm about to upgrade my cpu+mobo, which I know invalidates the upgraded license. OP says I might still be able to reinstall with my W7 key - is this still just a maybe, or has it been confirmed one way or another since? Either way, would I have to actually reinstall, or can I just plug in a product key and that's that? You can definitely reinstall with your W7 key, AFAIK. You definitely can't just re-enter the key and have it work. You might be able to call MS support and ask them to re-activate without needing to install, but this is not officially supported and seems to depend on how helpful the person who answers the phone is feeling that day.
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May 28, 2016 15:17
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ToxicFrog posted:You can definitely reinstall with your W7 key, AFAIK. You definitely can't just re-enter the key and have it work. You might be able to call MS support and ask them to re-activate without needing to install, but this is not officially supported and seems to depend on how helpful the person who answers the phone is feeling that day. Alright, thanks. I'll give support a call, then.
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Fast Ringers: How is the anniversary update shaping up as compared to Build 10240? I haven't budged from that yet, but I was thinking about sucking it up and upgrade-installing when there's an ISO available with the new summer build. What's new/good/fixed? What's worse? Have even more control panels disappeared into the Settings app, never to be heard from again? Is it possible to shuffle backgrounds yet without using regedit or digging up a link to the old-style Desktop Background control panel?
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