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TMMadman: Sep 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

So is anyone talking today?

# ? May 25, 2016 18:05

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 23:37

Li Dawny: Apr 14, 2013

I will be sporadic at best today, it's a pretty full one for me.

# ? May 25, 2016 18:32

Juchero: Feb 15, 2008; Wedge Regret

TMMadman posted:

So is anyone talking today?

Not much to talk about, scum.

# ? May 25, 2016 18:34

Juchero: Feb 15, 2008; Wedge Regret

Absurd Revolver posted:

Not much to talk about, scum.

Sorry, I meant chum!

# ? May 25, 2016 18:36

Juchero: Feb 15, 2008; Wedge Regret

Okay, so this is where we are as I see it.

We can't get either of them lynched, for whatever reason. TMM claimed he stopped the lynch both times because he didn't want a turbo.

I've been just sort of theorycrafting and these are my notes.

So CPig claimed lynchbomb to avoid his lynch, which seems problematic. If he was town, shouldn't he have kept quiet and let scum hammer him? Trading a town for a scum at this point would basically ensure victory for town. Still, by announcing lynchbomb, he made it impossible for the scum to hammer him, since they aren't going to make such a stupid sacrifice.

CC has no such problem, and the impetus to vote him existed long before we got all suspicious of CPig. However we can't get the votes, and that makes me think he's the real scum. A no-lynch at this point would be very bad, we'd lose our momentum, and look at the thread already.

Another problem is vector_to. At this point it's very likely that vector is scum, and for whatever reason he isn't here, that would leave scum with only one remaining player no matter what after tonight. If he's not scum, it helps explain why we can't get either vote through.

Finally, tpink's reluctance to vote when literally no discussion is going on doesn't make any sense. Who cares if we 'turbo' when the thread is dead until deadline?

# ? May 25, 2016 22:31

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

tmm scum or human garbage confirmed

# ? May 25, 2016 22:47

CapitalistPig: Nov 3, 2005; A Winner is you!

Absurd Revolver posted:

Okay, so this is where we are as I see it.

We can't get either of them lynched, for whatever reason. TMM claimed he stopped the lynch both times because he didn't want a turbo.

I've been just sort of theorycrafting and these are my notes.

So CPig claimed lynchbomb to avoid his lynch, which seems problematic. If he was town, shouldn't he have kept quiet and let scum hammer him? Trading a town for a scum at this point would basically ensure victory for town. Still, by announcing lynchbomb, he made it impossible for the scum to hammer him, since they aren't going to make such a stupid sacrifice.

CC has no such problem, and the impetus to vote him existed long before we got all suspicious of CPig. However we can't get the votes, and that makes me think he's the real scum. A no-lynch at this point would be very bad, we'd lose our momentum, and look at the thread already.

Another problem is vector_to. At this point it's very likely that vector is scum, and for whatever reason he isn't here, that would leave scum with only one remaining player no matter what after tonight. If he's not scum, it helps explain why we can't get either vote through.

Finally, tpink's reluctance to vote when literally no discussion is going on doesn't make any sense. Who cares if we 'turbo' when the thread is dead until deadline?

How could i guarantee it would be a scum hammering though? Use your head.

# ? May 25, 2016 23:05

Juchero: Feb 15, 2008; Wedge Regret

CapitalistPig posted:

How could i guarantee it would be a scum hammering though? Use your head.

You couldn't, but if you are town, isn't it more likely than not that the hammer would be scum?

I dunno, I acknowledge that none of it is a solid case, I just wanted to shake the tree a little as we sit approaching deadline.

# ? May 25, 2016 23:12

TMMadman: Sep 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

This really feels like a pretty sticky situation right now. I am going to assume that we have 3 scum in this game and no 3Ps.

Lynchbomb is often claimed by scum to avoid being lynched and until someone will sacrifice themselves it can't be tested. If CPig is really a lynchbomb, I'd think scum would want to keep that quiet, but if he is scum with vector then lynching him ends the game even with a town death. So claiming the lynchbomb would give him a mislynch today (even with a mod kill scum death) and a kill tonight and then town is left with 5 alive, 1 scum and 3 needed to lynch. Since several people think I'm scum already, it wouldn't be too hard to push for a lynch on me during D4 and then put town into a 3 man lylo on D5.

If he is a town lynchbomb and providing vector is scum, then lynching him now would lose 2 town and 1 scum which would mean town has 5 alive, 1 scum going into N3 and 4 alive, 1 scum to start D4 assuming a successful NK. A mislynch would make it 3 alive, 1 scum going into N4 and then scum wins with a successful NK.

If both CC and vector turn out to be town, then we go into N3 with 6 alive, 2 scum and started D4 with 5 alive, 2 scum which would be lylo and one person who has claimed lynchbomb. We wouldn't be able to lynch him at that point because even if he is scum and a lynchbomb, then lynching him on D4 would take out a scum and a town which would leave 3 alive, 1 scum going into N4 and scum win with a successful NK.

Hmm...I think after typing all this out, the only real option right now is to lynch CC and hope that one of CC or vector is scum. I'm going to take a few more minutes to think about it, but if anyone else has thoughts it'd be nice to hear them.

# ? May 25, 2016 23:23

TMMadman: Sep 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

TMMadman posted:

This really feels like a pretty sticky situation right now. I am going to assume that we have 3 scum in this game and no 3Ps.

Lynchbomb is often claimed by scum to avoid being lynched and until someone will sacrifice themselves it can't be tested. If CPig is really a lynchbomb, I'd think scum would want to keep that quiet, but if he is scum with vector then lynching him ends the game even with a town death. So claiming the lynchbomb would give him a mislynch today (even with a mod kill scum death) and a kill tonight and then town is left with 5 alive, 1 scum and 3 needed to lynch. Since several people think I'm scum already, it wouldn't be too hard to push for a lynch on me during D4 and then put town into a 3 man lylo on D5.

If he is a town lynchbomb and providing vector is scum, then lynching him now would lose 2 town (because scum won't hammer) and 1 scum which would mean town has 5 alive, 1 scum going into N3 and 4 alive, 1 scum to start D4 assuming a successful NK. A mislynch would make it 3 alive, 1 scum going into N4 and then scum wins with a successful NK.

If both CC and vector turn out to be town, then we go into N3 with 6 alive, 2 scum and started D4 with 5 alive, 2 scum which would be lylo and one person who has claimed lynchbomb. We wouldn't be able to lynch him at that point because even if he is scum and a lynchbomb, then lynching him on D4 would take out a scum and a town which would leave 3 alive, 1 scum going into N4 and scum win with a successful NK.

Hmm...I think after typing all this out, the only real option right now is to lynch CC and hope that one of CC or vector is scum. I'm going to take a few more minutes to think about it, but if anyone else has thoughts it'd be nice to hear them.

Mafia edit.

# ? May 25, 2016 23:24

Juchero: Feb 15, 2008; Wedge Regret

TMMadman posted:

This really feels like a pretty sticky situation right now. I am going to assume that we have 3 scum in this game and no 3Ps.

Lynchbomb is often claimed by scum to avoid being lynched and until someone will sacrifice themselves it can't be tested. If CPig is really a lynchbomb, I'd think scum would want to keep that quiet, but if he is scum with vector then lynching him ends the game even with a town death. So claiming the lynchbomb would give him a mislynch today (even with a mod kill scum death) and a kill tonight and then town is left with 5 alive, 1 scum and 3 needed to lynch. Since several people think I'm scum already, it wouldn't be too hard to push for a lynch on me during D4 and then put town into a 3 man lylo on D5.

If he is a town lynchbomb and providing vector is scum, then lynching him now would lose 2 town and 1 scum which would mean town has 5 alive, 1 scum going into N3 and 4 alive, 1 scum to start D4 assuming a successful NK. A mislynch would make it 3 alive, 1 scum going into N4 and then scum wins with a successful NK.

If both CC and vector turn out to be town, then we go into N3 with 6 alive, 2 scum and started D4 with 5 alive, 2 scum which would be lylo and one person who has claimed lynchbomb. We wouldn't be able to lynch him at that point because even if he is scum and a lynchbomb, then lynching him on D4 would take out a scum and a town which would leave 3 alive, 1 scum going into N4 and scum win with a successful NK.

Hmm...I think after typing all this out, the only real option right now is to lynch CC and hope that one of CC or vector is scum. I'm going to take a few more minutes to think about it, but if anyone else has thoughts it'd be nice to hear them.

Yeah this was my thought process when I switched my vote. CC is the only logical option, thanks to the lynchbomb claim.

# ? May 25, 2016 23:25

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

TMMadman posted:

This really feels like a pretty sticky situation right now. I am going to assume that we have 3 scum in this game and no 3Ps.

Lynchbomb is often claimed by scum to avoid being lynched and until someone will sacrifice themselves it can't be tested. If CPig is really a lynchbomb, I'd think scum would want to keep that quiet, but if he is scum with vector then lynching him ends the game even with a town death. So claiming the lynchbomb would give him a mislynch today (even with a mod kill scum death) and a kill tonight and then town is left with 5 alive, 1 scum and 3 needed to lynch. Since several people think I'm scum already, it wouldn't be too hard to push for a lynch on me during D4 and then put town into a 3 man lylo on D5.

If he is a town lynchbomb and providing vector is scum, then lynching him now would lose 2 town and 1 scum which would mean town has 5 alive, 1 scum going into N3 and 4 alive, 1 scum to start D4 assuming a successful NK. A mislynch would make it 3 alive, 1 scum going into N4 and then scum wins with a successful NK.

If both CC and vector turn out to be town, then we go into N3 with 6 alive, 2 scum and started D4 with 5 alive, 2 scum which would be lylo and one person who has claimed lynchbomb. We wouldn't be able to lynch him at that point because even if he is scum and a lynchbomb, then lynching him on D4 would take out a scum and a town which would leave 3 alive, 1 scum going into N4 and scum win with a successful NK.

Hmm...I think after typing all this out, the only real option right now is to lynch CC and hope that one of CC or vector is scum. I'm going to take a few more minutes to think about it, but if anyone else has thoughts it'd be nice to hear them.

FEEL FREE TO TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU WANT

# ? May 25, 2016 23:25

TMMadman: Sep 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

dongsbot 9000 posted:

FEEL FREE TO TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU WANT

I HAD TO TAKE A poo poo!

And during that poo poo, I couldn't see any other way to play this day out. We're going to have lynch CC and hope that one of them is scum. I've been having some second thoughts about CC being scum, but I'm pretty sure that vector will flip scum, so I think town should be alright here.

##vote Concerned Citizen

# ? May 25, 2016 23:41

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Good riddance, Concerned Citizen!

# ? May 25, 2016 23:41

TMMadman: Sep 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

# ? May 25, 2016 23:41

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

When you walk through a storm, hold your head up high
And don�t be afraid of the dark
At the end of the storm, there�s a golden sky
And the sweet, silver song of a lark

Walk on through the wind
Walk on through the rain
Though your dreams be tossed and blown

Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you�ll never walk alone
You�ll never walk alone

Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you�ll never walk alone
You�ll never walk alone

# ? May 25, 2016 23:43

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

May 25, 2016 6:24 PM
May 25, 2016 6:41 PM

jesus...

# ? May 25, 2016 23:46

Juchero: Feb 15, 2008; Wedge Regret

dongsbot 9000 posted:

May 25, 2016 6:24 PM
May 25, 2016 6:41 PM

jesus...

that's some serious shitposting

# ? May 25, 2016 23:49

flerp: Feb 25, 2014

lol if u dont post while making GBS threads

# ? May 26, 2016 00:00

Juchero: Feb 15, 2008; Wedge Regret

flerp posted:

lol if u dont post while making GBS threads

I'd say a good 25% of my mafia posts are made while making GBS threads, actually.

# ? May 26, 2016 00:01

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Votecount for Day 3 :downsgun:

Concerned Citizen (5): CapitalistPig, dongsbot 9000, TMMadman, Absurd Revolver, ~~TMMadman~~, Li Dawny, TMMadman

vector_to (1): Anonymous

CapitalistPig (1): TMMadman, Absurd Revolver, Li Dawny, ~~Absurd Revolver~~, Absurd Revolver, Concerned Citizen, ~~TMMadman~~, ~~Absurd Revolver~~, ~~Li Dawny~~

Not Voting (2): tpink, vector_to :nono:

With 8 alive, it's 5 votes to lynch. The current deadline is May 25^th, 2016 at 8 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 0 minutes.

Eleanor rushes into the room, beckoning Marie and Gertrude over. The fan drowns out most of their whispered conversation, but even in the dwindling light of the sunset you can tell they're upset.

# ? May 26, 2016 02:43

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

quote:

"... another one ... terrible ... carved out ... even the mattress! ... worst thing ... dried red stains!"

"Mary ... of God."

"Calm ... take care ... quietly ... upset ... others ..."

"... not all ... another ... thought they were sleeping ... dead!"

"What in the Lord's name is happening to this place?"

Concerned Citizen, Scum-Aligned Goon, was never seen again after Day 3! :rip:

vector_to, Town-Aligned Vanilla, was never seen again after Day 3! :rip:

Night 3 begins now. You have 14 hours from this post to get me any night actions. This is a strict limit - if I do not hear from you by that time, you will forfeit your night action!

The next day will start before or around noon tomorrow, 5/26.

# ? May 26, 2016 02:46

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

quote:

"Oh Eleanor, it's clear you're bursting with gossip this morning. You may as well get on with it."

"Sorry, Gertrude! It's just - another resident passed last night. But th-this one - his door was locked, and when they finally got it open, he had been SHOT! And there was more of that horrid graffiti hidden in every nook and cranny!"

"Sakes alive! What is this place coming to?"

"That's not all - didn't you hear? They found a gun in his room - and this one was properly loaded! Obviously he did for himself - guilt-wracked from his sins, I would think."

"That's quite enough of that, you two. Best to not speak ill of the dead. All I'll say is this - I hope that's the end of all this strangeness. It's weighed upon poor Director Fyre so much, the last few days - losing so many, under such odd circumstances. Now come along, let's bring everyone to the sunroom for the day. Supposed to be beautiful weather outside, after all."

CapitalistPig, Scum-Aligned Goon, was killed on Night 3! :rip:

In the end, Marie was right - that would be the last suspicious death that they had to deal with. In the days and weeks to come, Ms. Fyre's Special Needs Senior Care Center returned to a state of normalcy - or as normal as it could be, with its delightfully unique (throughly insane) residents.

All threats to the "town" have been eliminated! The game ends in a TOWN VICTORY, with the following people left alive:

Li Dawny, Compulsive Blank Vigilante

Absurd Revolver, Compulsive Vigilante (yes, he wins with town)

tpink, Roleblocker

dongsbot 9000, Vanilla

TMMadman, Vanilla
~~~

Misfire Mafia was a game of Mafia for 12 players, featuring:

3 Scum (1 Roleblocker, 2 Goons), crazed (in a bad way) residents lashing out at everyone and anyone.
3 Town Compulsive Vigilantes (2 of which were Blank Vigilantes and always got FAILED results), crazed (in a decent-ish way, I suppose) residents with the best of intentions.
1 Town Roleblocker, who just wanted some peace and quiet. (And was crazy.)
5 Town Vanilla, who were just good old harmless crazies.

Thank you all for playing! As always, feedback is more than welcome.
As an aside, this game was based on this setup: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Impotence_Mafia
Flavor for your individual brands of crazy was lifted (where possible) from the first post you made in this thread. In-thread flavor was intentionally meant to be vague and unhelpful, given the stated intent of this game.

Mod Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19cVP9Mn5EO0MsFFAXPPoSOm9g6SLqHDtfvdSr_31BU4/edit?usp=sharing
Scum Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18VL2fCReiIa06X84YF6lK5HKMRWZeL5Z0K4r0jIaEOw/edit?usp=sharing
Observer/Dead Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jeq2pGj8Wu1xp0ecIl8faAstmBQri-CLOVLj2BOHV_0/edit?usp=sharing

# ? May 26, 2016 05:29

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

wow gently caress you absurd

# ? May 26, 2016 05:40

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

lol

# ? May 26, 2016 05:41

flerp: Feb 25, 2014

i think we can all safely say that li is mvp

# ? May 26, 2016 05:43

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

was cpig RNG or did AR actually crack the case and shoot him?

# ? May 26, 2016 05:44

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

# ? May 26, 2016 05:45

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Concerned Citizen posted:

was cpig RNG or did AR actually crack the case and shoot him?

AR only RNGed his shot on Night 2. He specifically chose CPig for Night 3.

# ? May 26, 2016 05:46

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

For the record, the night that AR attempted to take no action, he had a 1/9 chance of shooting himself. :haw:

# ? May 26, 2016 05:47

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

Podima posted:

AR only RNGed his shot on Night 2. He specifically chose CPig for Night 3.

# ? May 26, 2016 05:50

CapitalistPig: Nov 3, 2005; A Winner is you!

Well that was an ill formed completely ineffective plan.

# ? May 26, 2016 05:51

got some chores tonight: Feb 18, 2012; honk honk whats for lunch...

im tilting ar tried to kill me

# ? May 26, 2016 05:51

flerp: Feb 25, 2014

Podima posted:

For the record, the night that AR attempted to take no action, he had a 1/9 chance of shooting himself.

ar shooting himself in the face wouldve been 2 accurate for this game imho

# ? May 26, 2016 05:51

CapitalistPig: Nov 3, 2005; A Winner is you!

I probably would have done better if i had a good fake claim to work with.

:p

# ? May 26, 2016 05:53

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

CapitalistPig posted:

Well that was an ill formed completely ineffective plan.

they say you learn more from your failures than your successes cpig.

something to think about

# ? May 26, 2016 05:57

tpink: Feb 18, 2013; Melman

Oh man, I loved this game. Sorry I was MIA the last day, fam - I was tied up all day and came back with the intention of hammering CC, but I was already beaten to it. I thought after their last post that was basically "gee whiz sure you can lynch me but I promise I'm town" that there was a good chance they'd flip scum.

And for the record I did finally peg Cpig as scum and roleblocked him on N3, so even if AR hadn't killed him, our town victory still would have been secure. :hist101: