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woodenchicken
Aug 19, 2007

Nap Ghost
I'm changing an i5 2500 for an i5 6600k. Am I good using the old cooler that came with 2500's box version for now? I'm not planning on overclocking right away and will buy a beastly cooler when I do.

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AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

woodenchicken posted:

I'm changing an i5 2500 for an i5 6600k. Am I good using the old cooler that came with 2500's box version for now? I'm not planning on overclocking right away and will buy a beastly cooler when I do.

It should be OK as long as the push-pin mounting hardware still works, those things were really designed to go on once and not be reused so they are sort of flimsy. You'll need some thermal compound to do the install, I use Arctic MX-2.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Does anyone know why turning on MSI game boost to bring my 6600k up to 4.1ghz would disable my xmp profile? I want to try and run both, as with out xmp my ddr4-3000 memory is only running at 2400. :(

Or should I just use xmp profile?

Also, does 38C @ 3900MHz idle seem ok?

Deviant fucked around with this message at 19:24 on May 28, 2016

accipter
Sep 12, 2003
I am looking for recommendations on a low power options for an HTPC/NAS/Usenet box. Would an Intel chip be preferred? Or would an AMD 5350 CPU be sufficient?

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Deviant posted:

Does anyone know why turning on MSI game boost to bring my 6600k up to 4.1ghz would disable my xmp profile? I want to try and run both, as with out xmp my ddr4-3000 memory is only running at 2400. :(

Generally you have to manually OC one or the other because some settings are shared between them.

Deviant posted:

Also, does 38C @ 3900MHz idle seem ok?

That is fine.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Generally you have to manually OC one or the other because some settings are shared between them.


That is fine.

Yeah, I enabled XMP, and changed my multiplier on the CPU to 45. Sitting stable at 4.5GHz in windows, temp is about 47C. Still seems ok given the OC? However, I noticed when Prime95 is crunching, the multipler lowers itself down to 38-40 with temps at about 67-70C.. Is this normal, and if not, what can be done? I went to 4.5 because I saw many examples of that being a stable OC on this board/processor combo.

Wasn't sure if i needed to alter my ring multiplier as well, so I left that at 39

Deviant fucked around with this message at 20:08 on May 28, 2016

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Deviant posted:

Yeah, I enabled XMP, and changed my multiplier on the CPU to 45. Sitting stable at 4.5GHz in windows, temp is about 47C. Still seems ok given the OC? However, I noticed when Prime95 is crunching, the multipler lowers itself down to 38-40 with temps at about 67-70C.. Is this normal, and if not, what can be done? I went to 4.5 because I saw many examples of that being a stable OC on this board/processor combo.

Wasn't sure if i needed to alter my ring multiplier as well, so I left that at 39

First off Prime95 is an extreme torture test so I don't really consider it to be worthwhile unless you crunch primes in actual workloads fairly often, instead I would check and see if the CPU is clocking down in games and other intensive real life workloads.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Ok, I'll go back to my normal use-case of playing all the Overwatch and see what happens.

Life is hard.

Muttonchips
Jun 5, 2014

by Shine
Now that the 1080 is out, is it a good idea to wait a few more weeks for prices for graphics card prices to drop? I don't feel comfortable buying used graphics cards.

I play at 1920x1080, so I was thinking a 970 or 980 would be more than good enough for what i need. How much further are prices expected to drop and how long does it take usually?

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Muttonchips posted:

Now that the 1080 is out, is it a good idea to wait a few more weeks for prices for graphics card prices to drop? I don't feel comfortable buying used graphics cards.

I play at 1920x1080, so I was thinking a 970 or 980 would be more than good enough for what i need. How much further are prices expected to drop and how long does it take usually?

It won't work like that, there will be fire sales, not generalized price drops, so you have to watch out for them. Also I expect only the 980Ti will be seeing those rare fire sales for now, the 1070 release is where I would expect to see the 980/970 fire sales happen. Also this assumes that the retailers don't just say gently caress it and hold on to stock to sell to people who don't keep up with new GPU releases. There is also AMD's Polaris to keep an eye on which should put even more pressure on retailers to get rid of old stock since it's going to fit in even lower price brackets than the Nvidia cards.

1mpper
Nov 26, 2004
I'm finally upgrading my system after about five or six years, which essentially means gutting the entire thing and just saving my enclosure and a couple storage HDDs I bought along the way.

In the US, and my budget is around ~$800, the less the better.
Here's the build I'm thinking of, the only real goal is to be able to play recent games with decently high settings in 1080p. Since it's been awhile since I last investigated parts, I was hoping someone might have a suggestion about something I should swap out for better value, etc. I overkilled the power supply in case I wanted to upgrade the graphics card after a year or two (if VR becomes a thing I'm actually interested in).


CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($132.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB NITRO Dual-X OC Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $687.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-28 18:52 EDT-0400

1mpper fucked around with this message at 00:03 on May 29, 2016

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

1mpper posted:

I'm finally upgrading my system after about five or six years, which essentially means gutting the entire thing and just saving my enclosure and a couple storage HDDs I bought along the way.

In the US, and my budget is around ~$800, the less the better.
Here's the build I'm thinking of, the only real goal is to be able to play recent games with decently high settings in 1080p. Since it's been awhile since I last investigated parts, I was hoping someone might have a suggestion about something I should swap out for better value, etc. I overkilled the power supply in case I wanted to upgrade the graphics card after a year or two (if VR becomes a thing I'm actually interested in).


CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($132.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB NITRO Dual-X OC Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $687.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-28 18:52 EDT-0400

A few changes:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($202.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock ASRock H170M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($88.30 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $743.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-28 19:05 EDT-0400

1) You don't need a Z170 mobo since you won't be OCing with an i5-6500 so I changed it for a decent H170 board.
2) Some cheaper RAM.
3) A better SSD. You want to avoid OCZ, they are seriously bad news and if your drive fails they will just send you DOA ones over and over via RMA.
4) I changed the video card out because for what you are aiming for a GTX 970 or R9 390 makes more sense, though you might want to wait or pick up a used card because new cards are coming out and prices are in flux, you will be able to get a much better deal if you wait and keep your eyes open for deals.
5) A better PSU that is cheaper.

Also do not buy from SuperBiiz or OutletPC, neither are licensed resellers and they both hide the shipping charges until checkout, they have both been caught selling used parts as new and other shady things.

Injuryprone
Sep 26, 2007

Speak up, there's something in my ear.

Here's my 4 year old super budget PC specs I took from an old Techreport build guide. It's in need of an upgrade if I want to play Overwatch without having to turn my GPU fan speed up to 100% every time I play. I use Windows 7 now, but would use the free upgrade to 10 once I have all the new parts. My monitor is probably from 2007 so I would need to upgrade that too I guess. My budget is $400 not including a new monitor.

Processor: Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 55W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i33220
$129.99
Video Card: MSI R7770-PMD1GD5 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
$124.99
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-H77-DS3H LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$99.99
HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
$84.99
Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$54.99
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$44.99
Memory: CORSAIR 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMV8GX3M2A1600C11
$35.99

Techreport suggest the below.

Processor AMD Athlon X4 880K $95.00
Cooler AMD stock cooler --
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3HP $64.99
Memory HyperX Fury 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 $34.99
Graphics EVGA GeForce GTX 950 $139.99
Storage WD Blue 1TB 7200 RPM $53.99
Enclosure Cooler Master N200 $46.99
PSU Corsair CX430 $39.99
Total $476.94

Injuryprone fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 29, 2016

Cathair
Jan 7, 2008
My dad's pile of ancient hand-me-down parts is looking like it might kick the bucket, and he's finally decided to spring for a real system for once. I'll be putting it together for him.

Country:
US

Purpose:
Gaming. Mostly open-world games like Fallout 4 or STALKER, and massive-scale base-building RTSes in the vein of TA/Supreme Commander.

Budget:
$1200 USD max, anything below that isn't a big deal.

Resolution:
At the moment 1600x900, hopefully 1080p soon-ish, not likely to be higher than that.


Here's what I'm looking at so far:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI MSI Z170A SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB 100 Million Edition Video Card ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1019.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-28 22:04 EDT-0400

Actual total is $1054, for some reason the Cryorig H7 isn't linking properly to Newegg.

-How much does overclocking matter with the 6600k? How well can it be overclocked? This obviously doesn't matter for the older games he plays, but some newer iterations (Ashes of the Singularity, for example) can apparently be pretty hard on the CPU. It's a trait common to the kinds of games he likes in general. On one hand, I'd like to keep overclocking to a minimum because the user won't be able to personally deal with any technical problems that arise, but on the other hand, a stable overclock on modern hardware ought to be pretty reliable and hands-off. It won't cost much extra, which is why I'm considering it in the first place. Good idea/bad idea?

-I'm kinda iffy on the need for a 500gb SSD, but it's only $60 more to double the size over a 250gb one. My 250gb 840 EVO has been ok for my needs, but games are getting ever bigger, and it being the OS drive makes it a moderate PITA to upgrade. I guess it's a matter of whether even better SSDs will come out sooner than it takes for a 250gb one to become painfully small. Am I falling into future-proofing here?

-Additional storage and the OS are already taken care of, they're the only modern parts in the piece of junk he's using now.

Eletriarnation
Apr 6, 2005

People don't appreciate the substance of things...
objects in space.


Oven Wrangler

Injuryprone posted:

Here's my 4 year old super budget PC specs I took from an old Techreport build guide. It's in need of an upgrade if I want to play Overwatch without having to turn my GPU fan speed up to 100% every time I play. I use Windows 7 now, but would use the free upgrade to 10 once I have all the new parts. My monitor is probably from 2007 so I would need to upgrade that too I guess. My budget is $400 not including a new monitor.

Processor: Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 55W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i33220
$129.99
Video Card: MSI R7770-PMD1GD5 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
$124.99
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-H77-DS3H LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$99.99
HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
$84.99
Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$54.99
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$44.99
Memory: CORSAIR 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMV8GX3M2A1600C11
$35.99

Techreport suggest the below.

Processor AMD Athlon X4 880K $95.00
Cooler AMD stock cooler --
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3HP $64.99
Memory HyperX Fury 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 $34.99
Graphics EVGA GeForce GTX 950 $139.99
Storage WD Blue 1TB 7200 RPM $53.99
Enclosure Cooler Master N200 $46.99
PSU Corsair CX430 $39.99
Total $476.94

I would not recommend buying a full new system given your budget and what you have already. Buy an i5 or i7 from Sandy or Ivy Bridge (2500, 2600, 3550, 3570, 3770) used as an upgrade and something like a 970 or 290X and you'll get a better system than the Techreport suggested one. You might be able to get away with the graphics card upgrade alone, I don't know how CPU intensive Overwatch is. That would allow you to save some money for full replacement in a couple years, but unless you have a lot of money to blow the platform you're on is still pretty good value.

If you do go for a new CPU, you will probably want an aftermarket cooler of some sort - the Cryorig H7 and Cooler Master Hyper 212 series are popular recommendations. You can't overclock with that motherboard so don't pay extra for a K chip, but the quads do dissipate more heat so you don't want to limit them with an i3 cooler.

Eletriarnation fucked around with this message at 04:00 on May 29, 2016

Col.Kiwi
Dec 28, 2004
And the grave digger puts on the forceps...

Injuryprone posted:

Here's my 4 year old super budget PC
Don't do that. The X4 880K is slower per-thread than the i3-3220 so in many games it will actually be slower real-world. Eletriarnations suggestions are good ideas. The video card you have is very modest and your CPU isnt bad so you might be fine just putting in a better video card and that's it. If you aren't happy at that point but need to keep the cost down I'd definitely get an i5 or i7 that works in your current board.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Muttonchips posted:

Now that the 1080 is out, is it a good idea to wait a few more weeks for prices for graphics card prices to drop? I don't feel comfortable buying used graphics cards.

I play at 1920x1080, so I was thinking a 970 or 980 would be more than good enough for what i need. How much further are prices expected to drop and how long does it take usually?

Or wait another 2-3 weeks and get a 1070, which is at least as good as a Titan X, for $400.

Injuryprone
Sep 26, 2007

Speak up, there's something in my ear.

Eletriarnation posted:

I would not recommend buying a full new system given your budget and what you have already. Buy an i5 or i7 from Sandy or Ivy Bridge (2500, 2600, 3550, 3570, 3770) used as an upgrade and something like a 970 or 290X and you'll get a better system than the Techreport suggested one. You might be able to get away with the graphics card upgrade alone, I don't know how CPU intensive Overwatch is. That would allow you to save some money for full replacement in a couple years, but unless you have a lot of money to blow the platform you're on is still pretty good value.

If you do go for a new CPU, you will probably want an aftermarket cooler of some sort - the Cryorig H7 and Cooler Master Hyper 212 series are popular recommendations. You can't overclock with that motherboard so don't pay extra for a K chip, but the quads do dissipate more heat so you don't want to limit them with an i3 cooler.

Col.Kiwi posted:

Don't do that. The X4 880K is slower per-thread than the i3-3220 so in many games it will actually be slower real-world. Eletriarnations suggestions are good ideas. The video card you have is very modest and your CPU isnt bad so you might be fine just putting in a better video card and that's it. If you aren't happy at that point but need to keep the cost down I'd definitely get an i5 or i7 that works in your current board.

Thanks for the advice. I'll get a new graphics card and see where that takes me. A friend of mine has been insisting that a SSD will radically change my life. Is there any truth to that?

Also, I'm assuming a 960 would be fine...hopefully since its $100 less.

Injuryprone fucked around with this message at 05:00 on May 29, 2016

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Injuryprone posted:

Thanks for the advice. I'll get a new graphics card and see where that takes me. A friend of mine has been insisting that a SSD will radically change my life. Is there any truth to that?

Absolutely, SSDs make a huge difference but not in game frame rate. Where you do see the benefits is loading times and general use outside of games. For general usage it's like jumping forward multiple years of tech all at once, using anything without a SSD will feel like something from the stone age in comparison.

But, IMO GPU and CPU upgrades first, those are what will make the big difference in game settings and frame rates.

EDIT:

Injuryprone posted:

Also, I'm assuming a 960 would be fine...hopefully since its $100 less.

Nope, it's a far slower card than the 970/390 and was always a disappointment. I'd wait a bit if at all possible, Nvidia's new GTX 1080 just came out, the GTX 1070 comes out June 10th, AMD as their Polaris cards coming out in the next month or so, or at least we hope they do. Prices are in flux so you should be able to save a bit via sales if you wait.

AVeryLargeRadish fucked around with this message at 05:25 on May 29, 2016

Triikan
Feb 23, 2007
Most Loved
Have a modern 650 watt seasonic power supply. Question I have is can I run 10 hard drives off one 4 port cable? I have a backplane with 2 drives and two splitter cables with 4 ports each.

ControlledBurn
Sep 7, 2006

Frost his bag!

Looking to build my mother a new office PC rather than pay for a bloated Dell/HP: Is there a motherboard out there with dual display-port graphics on the motherboard using the i5-6500's Intel 530?

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

Think I took a wrong turn...
Any tips on a GPU upgrade for the HP 6300?

http://www.amazon.com/HP-Compaq-6300-Business-Desktop/dp/B009KGE9NE

Doing a bit of research, it seems like the PSU is basically un-upgradeable and the best card I can get is a 750Ti?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Tezzeract posted:

Any tips on a GPU upgrade for the HP 6300?

http://www.amazon.com/HP-Compaq-6300-Business-Desktop/dp/B009KGE9NE

Doing a bit of research, it seems like the PSU is basically un-upgradeable and the best card I can get is a 750Ti?

That sounds about right since it's a small form factor so full size graphics cards won't fit.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Tezzeract posted:

Any tips on a GPU upgrade for the HP 6300?

http://www.amazon.com/HP-Compaq-6300-Business-Desktop/dp/B009KGE9NE

Doing a bit of research, it seems like the PSU is basically un-upgradeable and the best card I can get is a 750Ti?

It will also need to be a low-profile card because the computer lacks full size expansion slots. Here is one from MSI.

Rookoo
Jul 24, 2007

Injuryprone posted:

Here's my 4 year old super budget PC specs I took from an old Techreport build guide. It's in need of an upgrade if I want to play Overwatch without having to turn my GPU fan speed up to 100% every time I play. I use Windows 7 now, but would use the free upgrade to 10 once I have all the new parts.

Keep in mind the upgrade offer ends 29th of July.

doctor pants
Feb 23, 2009
Spilled liquid into my 3-year-old gaming computer last night. I've been looking to build a new computer for a while, so I plan on building a new system and replacing the busted parts on the old one to give it to a friend.

Country:
US

Purpose:
Gaming. Looking to play Overwatch, steam games, etc at max resolution. Otherwise, browsing the web and listening to music.

Budget:
$2000 USD or so

Resolution:
1920x1080. I'm looking to upgrade my monitor from a crappy 24'' Asus. No G-sync on the BenQ I added, but the reviews look good and the price is attractive. Interested in other suggestions in the same tier.

Here's my first stab at a build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($123.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: GTX 1070? Otherwise, GTX 970 seems fine, but it feels like it's worth waiting.
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Creative Labs 70SB157000000 Sound Card ($28.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: BenQ XL2430T 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($349.89 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: KUL ES-87 Wired Standard Keyboard ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1666.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-29 18:17 EDT-0400

Safari Disco Lion
Jul 21, 2011

Boss, if they make us find seven lost crystals, I'm quitting.

Overwatch is going to push me to upgrade my GPU to try and get better FPS and quality in-game. I'm not really willing to spend more than $130~ or so, so I'm still in the market for a budget card (up to $150 if I can get a really big performance boost at that price point). I have a Radeon HD7770, is it even worth upgrading or should I wait until I can swing closer to $250-300? I don't mind budget cards but I do mind games like Overwatch or Fallout 4 being only playable on minimum or close to minimum settings with 30 fps during fights.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Justice Scalia posted:

Spilled liquid into my 3-year-old gaming computer last night. I've been looking to build a new computer for a while, so I plan on building a new system and replacing the busted parts on the old one to give it to a friend.

Country:
US

Purpose:
Gaming. Looking to play Overwatch, steam games, etc at max resolution. Otherwise, browsing the web and listening to music.

Budget:
$2000 USD or so

Resolution:
1920x1080. I'm looking to upgrade my monitor from a crappy 24'' Asus. No G-sync on the BenQ I added, but the reviews look good and the price is attractive. Interested in other suggestions in the same tier.

Here's my first stab at a build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($123.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: GTX 1070? Otherwise, GTX 970 seems fine, but it feels like it's worth waiting.
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Creative Labs 70SB157000000 Sound Card ($28.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: BenQ XL2430T 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($349.89 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: KUL ES-87 Wired Standard Keyboard ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1666.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-29 18:17 EDT-0400

Here is an alternate build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($123.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($85.95 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Creative Labs 70SB157000000 Sound Card ($28.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($509.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: KUL ES-87 Wired Standard Keyboard ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: GTX 1070 ($420.00)
Total: $1951.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-29 18:53 EDT-0400

1) I changed the CPU cooler for a better one, it has a much better mounting system, cools better, is very quiet and is offset to one side so it won't interfere with tall RAM sticks and such.
2) I switched the RAM for something slightly faster for the same price.
3) I added a GTX 1070 for the video card, it is well worth waiting a bit for a 1070, I set the price at $420 since you should be able to find one with a decent aftermarket cooler for that price, there was a leaked review and the 1070 is a good bit faster than a 980Ti so it's well worth the money for the performance you will get out of it.
4) I changed the monitor, this one has Gsync, is 144Hz, 2560x1440 resolution and has one of the best TN panels on the market, you can't quite fit a 144Hz/165Hz IPS panel into your budget so this is the best alternative and with the 1070 you will have enough GPU power to do 2560x1440 at very high frame rates, and if anything dips low Gsync is there to keep everything nice and smooth.

Injuryprone
Sep 26, 2007

Speak up, there's something in my ear.

Rookoo posted:

Keep in mind the upgrade offer ends 29th of July.

Is Windows 10 a huge performance boost?

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Safari Disco Lion posted:

Overwatch is going to push me to upgrade my GPU to try and get better FPS and quality in-game. I'm not really willing to spend more than $130~ or so, so I'm still in the market for a budget card (up to $150 if I can get a really big performance boost at that price point). I have a Radeon HD7770, is it even worth upgrading or should I wait until I can swing closer to $250-300? I don't mind budget cards but I do mind games like Overwatch or Fallout 4 being only playable on minimum or close to minimum settings with 30 fps during fights.

You can get a GTX 950 for around that much and it would be nearly twice as fast as your HD7770, but still, I would wait. New video cards are coming out right now and the market is in flux, if you wait you could either end up spending $130 and getting a lot more for your money or you could save up a bit more and get GTX 970 level performance for ~$200 from the AMD RX 480 when it comes out some time in the next month or two.

Safari Disco Lion
Jul 21, 2011

Boss, if they make us find seven lost crystals, I'm quitting.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

You can get a GTX 950 for around that much and it would be nearly twice as fast as your HD7770, but still, I would wait. New video cards are coming out right now and the market is in flux, if you wait you could either end up spending $130 and getting a lot more for your money or you could save up a bit more and get GTX 970 level performance for ~$200 from the AMD RX 480 when it comes out some time in the next month or two.

Oh, I didn't know about that, I'll hold off then. I should be able to swing $200~ by the time it comes out.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Safari Disco Lion posted:

Oh, I didn't know about that, I'll hold off then. I should be able to swing $200~ by the time it comes out.

I'll just note that that $200 price is from leaks, speculation and so on, AMD has been pretty tight lipped about things so far so it might end up being a bit more or a bit less, we do know that they are aiming at the GTX 970/R9 390 performance level with the RX 480 and since the R9 380 is around $170-$220 I would expect the RX 480 to fall into the same range.

Also there is the possibility that AMD will end up late to market with their new GPUs but we should find out in the next week since Computex is happening this week and that is where we expect them to say stuff about their new GPUs.

Probably.

Hopefully.

:sigh:

Rookoo
Jul 24, 2007

Injuryprone posted:

Is Windows 10 a huge performance boost?

I think Windows 10 is slightly more efficient but I wouldn't call it a main reason to upgrade. Windows 7 is already getting a little long in the tooth, and though I'm sure it'll still keep getting support for a good while, In my opinion it's worth upgrading.

I previously was pretty against windows 10 because of some horror stories but I upgraded from 7, and after installing a free program to change the start menu back it's very similar, and I've had no problems. 7 is fine, but if you're getting the chance to go to 10 for free it's worth taking it since it's time limited.

Also, it's tied to your motherboard, so when/if you get your stuff, put a fresh windows 10 install on a USB Key/DVD and simply enter your windows 7 Key on the installation menu. Don't upgrade on your current machine.

Unless you're using niche programs/hardware that don't support windows 10 that is.

Eletriarnation
Apr 6, 2005

People don't appreciate the substance of things...
objects in space.


Oven Wrangler

Injuryprone posted:

Is Windows 10 a huge performance boost?

Boot times are faster and it performs a lot better in HD space- and RAM-limited systems compared to 7 but I don't think there's any noticeable difference in game performance in general.

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002
I was shopping for parts for a new VR-ready system (planning on getting the GTX1080 when the non-Founder's Edition boards start shipping), and I noticed a lot of motherboards are leaving off the S/PDIF output (which I've been using to get sound out of my PC, figuring even a modest stereo system is better at DAC than any motherboard). Are people just using HDMI for connecting PCs to stereo receivers these days?

Kefit
May 16, 2006
layl
My current desktop is an i5 2500k machine that I built back in 2011. For the most part it's still rock solid for most of my needs, but I'm running into issues with high resolution screen recording. Ideally, I'd like to be able to record high quality 1200p at 60fps. I figure now might be a good time to upgrade, so I've thrown this build together:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($101.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $591.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-29 22:41 EDT-0400

I'll just be reusing my current storage, including a Samsung 840 SSD. I'm kind of torn on what to do for a gpu. Truth be told, I don't play modern/AAA games much, so my graphical needs aren't extreme. For the last five years I've subsisted on the i5 2500k's on board gpu, and only occasionally wished I had something better. That being said, I have some money to burn, and don't mind spending a bit now to future proof myself to the extent that I can play pretty much anything I want (and record it!) for the next 4-5 years.

The other day I ordered a GTX 960 as an upgrade to my current machine (this is what got me into the mood for a new computer build in the first place). The OP seemed to suggest it as good value, but I'm having second thoughts after reading more recent posts. I think I might return the GTX 960 as soon as it arrives, and either upgrade to a 970 or wait for the new cards coming out in the next few weeks.

Kefit fucked around with this message at 04:52 on May 30, 2016

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Cockmaster posted:

I was shopping for parts for a new VR-ready system (planning on getting the GTX1080 when the non-Founder's Edition boards start shipping), and I noticed a lot of motherboards are leaving off the S/PDIF output (which I've been using to get sound out of my PC, figuring even a modest stereo system is better at DAC than any motherboard). Are people just using HDMI for connecting PCs to stereo receivers these days?

Still plenty of boards with it. For example, ATX (price), mini-ITX (price).

accipter
Sep 12, 2003
I am considering replacing my QNAP TS-251 NAS/HTPC with a linux box. The linux box will be primarily used as NAS, web streaming, downloading, and playing videos. The parts list below doesn't include the HDDs that I will take from the existing NAS.

A few concerns:
  • The case is relately expensive but it is attractive and can hold a lot of drives (6). I don't expect to use six drives, but most other options I saw could only hold one or two.
  • Is an SSD overkill? I was also considering putting the system on a USB drive and connect it via the USB header.
  • Would it be better to use a DC power brick?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($67.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $369.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-30 11:55 EDT-0400

Moola
Aug 16, 2006
what the christ, Im reading that the 1070 benchmarks better than a Titan X

I dont even know what is real anymore?!?!?!

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The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Moola posted:

what the christ, Im reading that the 1070 benchmarks better than a Titan X

I dont even know what is real anymore?!?!?!

It's what, 10% or so more powerful than the 980ti, which had better performance than the titan X anyways. Not unduly surprising in my books.

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