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DStecks posted:Trying to get into Endless Legend has revealed that what I really want is Stellaris, but for fantasy instead of Sci-Fi. I just find all the of the factions kinda less than interesting, and it's always them in every game. Stellaris definitely solved the "Oh hey it's the Drengin" problem, and it would be amazing to see that applied to a fantasy setting somehow. I really agree about the factions--having randomly-generated factions is so much more compelling to me than the typical 4X faction system. I started a new game as my spiritualist-militarist-xenophile humans and through sheer luck was surrounded by several other spiritualist factions, who were in turn surrounded by a bunch of hostile materialists. Our whole sector of the galaxy's now turned into this big ideological struggle that I don't think would have been possible in other 4X's that would have just had one "religious guy faction" and one "rationalist science guy" faction. Not to mention the effect it has on exploration.
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Phlegmish posted:As said, you don't have to buy the DLC and I never felt that I needed it to get the complete experience. Quite the opposite, in fact. that's mostly it, i just want the goddamn game to stop being developed so i can finally play the "final" release. Just get on with EU5 at this point. meanwhile RELEASE ROME 2
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Every once in a while I'll buy a bunch of older DLC because it's on sale for dirt cheap, and when I go to play I just have to stop, because it's not the latest version. I get a real annoying psychological thing where I just can't enjoy myself if I know I'm missing a part of the experience, even if the game is already perfectly acceptable as-is. Then I look at the price to buy everything else, and I give up on playing. That cycle repeated itself for a while and eventually I just stopped because I realized I was never actually playing the game. This is also why I'm never around these threads anymore despite being one of the most prolific posters for years. I enjoyed EU4 at launch and then just sort of fell off the wagon.
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StashAugustine posted:TBH I don't want to see fantasy Paradox since it would be really similar to their historicals I'm having lots of fun taking orc lands and burning out the green filth in the CK2 Warhammer mod but wouldn't it be more fun if it didn't run like poo poo and the magic system wasn't cobbled together out of traits and piety. I would totally buy a fantasy paradox game, including the the 2-3 dlcs needed to make necromancers playable and fix Snakemen snaking
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RentACop posted:I'm having lots of fun taking orc lands and burning out the green filth in the CK2 Warhammer mod but wouldn't it be more fun if it didn't run like poo poo and the magic system wasn't cobbled together out of traits and piety. I would totally buy a fantasy paradox game, including the the 2-3 dlcs needed to make necromancers playable and fix Snakemen snaking 
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Drone posted:Stellaris's not-100%-perfect launch burnt a lot of people tremendously hard, apparently. After all, that game is literally unplayable! the stellaris thread prior to launch was loving hilarious. people were working themselves up into a lather posting about mechanics and features that they were looking forward to that weren't in the game, making spreadsheets with little morsels of information gleaned from streams, writing pages of lore about their snowflake Tortossian Empires, and when I had the temerity to point out that maybe the collective enthusiasm could use some curbing I was, predicably, called an idiot.
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Sharzak posted:the stellaris thread prior to launch was loving hilarious. people were working themselves up into a lather posting about mechanics and features that they were looking forward to that weren't in the game, making spreadsheets with little morsels of information gleaned from streams, writing pages of lore about their snowflake Tortossian Empires, and when I had the temerity to point out that maybe the collective enthusiasm could use some curbing I was, predicably, called an idiot. you're very cool, my man
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May 31, 2016 04:41
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Sharzak posted:the stellaris thread prior to launch was loving hilarious. people were working themselves up into a lather posting about mechanics and features that they were looking forward to that weren't in the game, making spreadsheets with little morsels of information gleaned from streams, writing pages of lore about their snowflake Tortossian Empires, and when I had the temerity to point out that maybe the collective enthusiasm could use some curbing I was, predicably, called an idiot. well i for one am glad you found a way to feel superior to everyone
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corn in the bible posted:well i for one am glad you found a way to feel superior to everyone I didn't post in the thread before release so I'm superior to him
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Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:I've said it before but I just think it was weird to not give Stellaris a little more time in the oven when Pdox was launching a major title a month later. Most of what people complained about would've probably been fixed if it got a Q4 release IMO. Well Paradox did go public today and and opened 36 percent above the signing price, a lot of the hype for the IPO have came from the Stellaris sales and expectations for HOI IV. Which makes me quite happy as a stockowner but displeased as a fan since it feels quite cynical.
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As a employee, stockholder and fan I am just plain happy. Then again I usually am happy no matter what. e: Except when people use tanks, because tanks are a waste Groogy fucked around with this message at 11:14 on May 31, 2016 |
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May 31, 2016 11:03
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corn in the bible posted:well i for one am glad you found a way to feel superior to everyone I love this argument because it never ends. I'm glad you feel superior to him, and now I feel superior to you.
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May 31, 2016 11:18
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GrossMurpel posted:I love this argument because it never ends. I'm glad you feel superior to him, and now I feel superior to you. Good for you, Hitler
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GrossMurpel posted:I love this argument because it never ends. I'm glad you feel superior to him, and now I feel superior to you. And me, having not posted, feel superior to both of you. e; wait, YF-23 fucked around with this message at 12:21 on May 31, 2016 |
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May 31, 2016 11:28
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Well I don't feel superior to anyone 
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Darn conformist!
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May 31, 2016 11:35
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What's the reasoning behind taking out the mini map in hoi 4? If you want to get to China from England it's 3 actions (scroll out scroll east scroll in) and a lot more time than before.
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May 31, 2016 12:47
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those precious few seconds are really going to hurt my APM in a pauseable game Seriously though, I hadn't noticed that there's no minimap before, and would like to know the reasoning behind it too. But maybe my not noticing that it was gone says something about how often I actually ever looked at it.
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May 31, 2016 13:04
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Nitrousoxide posted:What's the reasoning behind taking out the mini map in hoi 4? If you want to get to China from England it's 3 actions (scroll out scroll east scroll in) and a lot more time than before. i don't think i've actually properly used the minimap in any paradox game ever, it's just something i don't even think about it
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May 31, 2016 13:31
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I just remember how confused I was with the CK1 minimap, with blue land and orange seas.
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May 31, 2016 13:35
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The minimap is there to hold all the map mode buttons. Without it you'd be stuck in terrain mode forever
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What's Paradox's ticker? I can't seem to find its IPO listing on my brokerage.
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Drone posted:those precious few seconds are really going to hurt my APM in a pauseable game Multiplayer  e: in seriousness watching the WWW between Germany and Britain eventually Germany's sheer size meant the player was missing bad things happening to him in quite a few places, where the British player had fewer things to focus on. Minimaps are good.
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ThePutty posted:i don't think i've actually properly used the minimap in any paradox game ever, it's just something i don't even think about it Hearts of Iron is the one where you are most likely to need to see what's going on in another continent 9 time zones away.
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Nitrousoxide posted:What's the reasoning behind taking out the mini map in hoi 4? If you want to get to China from England it's 3 actions (scroll out scroll east scroll in) and a lot more time than before. Its not needed for a few reasons: - the reason to look at china is because you have units there most likely, in which case you just click on the army icosn on the right and camera goes there - you can bookmark areas of interest which makes going there faster (if you dont have troops there) - zooming out, then in rapidly is really fast and more precise than trying to hit a tiny minimap - you get area alerts which (you guessed it) you can just quickly go to by clicking. Generally right clickign anythign with a location (like units in the unit list) in the game will move camera there. Usually its something new betas go "where is my minimap!" then after a while realise they dont need. we might end up adding one as optional in a patch just because, but its not needed at all. Obliterati posted:e: in seriousness watching the WWW between Germany and Britain eventually Germany's sheer size meant the player was missing bad things happening to him in quite a few places, where the British player had fewer things to focus on. Minimaps are good. I dont see how a traditional paradox minimap would help here. you still need to jump around and actually look at stuff. This is also one of the challenges of playing MP, because player attention can not be everywhere and paused you can do sneaky stuff.
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podcat posted:Its not needed for a few reasons: I'm just coming from having played a lot of EU IV MP where the challenges are similar (but presumably less?) and being able to jump around with a click is what's important: I suppose we'll see how this pans out but you have certainly listed a lot of other ways to do that than a minimap so if they work well it could be fine?
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Yeah I use the minimap in EU4 all the time. Then again my scroll wheel is half broken so it takes me like 10 times longer to scroll out than it should. I even remember there was a minimap in some of the dev diaries or something, it had areas shaded for night and day right?
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I only use the minimap when the game scrolls away should I alt-tab.
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I need the Stellaris Minimap.
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i don't understand why the maps need to be increasingly detailed and high-gpu-requiring. all you need for ww2 is a paper map with a big swastika over the enemy
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May 31, 2016 15:16
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the swastika marks my dudes actually
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Wooper posted:the swastika marks my dudes actually the hindu swastika but seriously, for all its flaws hoi3 looks really nice and i don't see why they needed to add a bunch of fancy terrain stuff nobody will look at corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 15:30 on May 31, 2016 |
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DrSunshine posted:What's Paradox's ticker? I can't seem to find its IPO listing on my brokerage. PDX on the Stockholm exchange, looks like
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corn in the bible posted:but seriously, for all its flaws hoi3 looks really nice and i don't see why they needed to add a bunch of fancy terrain stuff nobody will look at What, the terrain features on the main map? It's so you don't a)have to switch map modes to check the terrain or b)ignore it completely because doing a is  It's good in my opinion, same with weather.
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corn in the bible posted:the hindu swastika HOI3 looks awful. Look at that flaccid little florida. and that cancerous maine.  yes i know this was later patched to look less awful
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Drone posted:HOI3 looks awful. i meant the map look itself. i think it's neat and fits the theme
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DrSunshine posted:What's Paradox's ticker? I can't seem to find its IPO listing on my brokerage. Pdx, but if you are American I don't think we are listed there.
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May 31, 2016 16:51
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I think the HoI IV map is gorgeous and I like looking at pretty things.
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corn in the bible posted:i meant the map look itself. i think it's neat and fits the theme It takes up space and is just a place to stick the mapmode buttons, imo.
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Empress Theonora posted:I think the HoI IV map is gorgeous and I like looking at pretty things. the concern here is system requirements for people without the latest bells, whistles, droogs, etc. Drone posted:HOI3 looks awful. ur map is sick 
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