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How will you be voting in the UKEU Referendum? This poll is closed. |
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| Remain - Keep Britane Strong! |
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328 | 15.40% |
| Leave - Take Are Sovreignity Back! |
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115 | 5.40% |
| Remain - But only because Brexit are crazy |
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506 | 23.76% |
| Leave - But only because the EU is terrible |
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157 | 7.37% |
| Spoiled Ballot - This whole thing is an awful idea |
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61 | 2.86% |
| I'm not going to vote |
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19 | 0.89% |
| I'm not allowed to vote |
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411 | 19.30% |
| Pissflaps |
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533 | 25.02% |
| Total: | 2130 votes | ||
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I was gonna say the Leave campaign's argument is basically the Dad's Army titles, then I found out they got there first
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Jun 3, 2016 13:52
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LemonDrizzle posted:"gently caress it, we can't win the economic argument so let's just go for pure racism and lies" Good reasons to oppose Turkish accession: Occupation of Northern Cyprus, treatment of the Kurds, denial of the Armenian genocide, political corruption in the Erdogan government, general human rights record. Reasons people oppose Turkish accession: MUSLAMIC RAY GUNS.
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Jun 3, 2016 13:54
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Jippa posted:It's so nice today, I wish we had real summers in this country, it makes me feel a million times happier. edit: but i agree sunny days are a good thing and make everyone happier.
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Jun 3, 2016 14:26
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Yeah this is super we're all enjoying the unseasonably hot temperatures for the nth year in a row don't think of the broader implications oh God we're all hosed
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Jun 3, 2016 15:10
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Nah it's going to open up a whole lot of new habitable land in Greenland, Canada, and Siberia who will give us our famous warm welcome as refugees. I thought Britain was going to freeze due to global warming because of the Atlantic conveyor or the polar vortex or something.
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Jun 3, 2016 15:13
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Guavanaut posted:Atlantic conveyor
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Jun 3, 2016 15:17
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Don't hold me to this because I'm no scientist but I believe it will in the long run because the ice caps will melt and that'll dilute the oceans somewhat which will likely stop the gulf stream (which relies on a pretty exact ocean balance). As that is one of the things that keeps us warm for our latitude, we'd likely end up with a much colder climate.
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Jun 3, 2016 15:19
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Good. British people are so unbelievably poo poo at warm weather they don't deserve any. When the last 'heat wave' the local supermarket's concession to 'barbeque weather' was not to get in salads and kofte, but to extend their range of family sized lasagna to be an entire aisle. The hot pie and lasagna aisle. Why the gently caress would you cook hot food (that can only be eaten hot) in your already too loving hot house?
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Jun 3, 2016 15:22
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The hot pie & lasagne aisle sounds like paradise tbh
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Jun 3, 2016 15:31
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is it a single lasagna the length of an entire aisle because if so yes please
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Jun 3, 2016 15:53
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As long as the other side of the aisle is a pie.
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Jun 3, 2016 15:55
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https://twitter.com/DavidAllenGreen/status/738398104861478916 https://twitter.com/DavidAllenGreen/status/738727128083091460 The writer (tweeter?) is a practicing lawyer and writes the rather good Jack of Kent legal blog, for what it's worth.
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Jun 3, 2016 16:19
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is that £20k all in? not per election? i despair
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Jun 3, 2016 16:23
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Heh, apparently people aren't that easily fooled. 
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Jun 3, 2016 16:29
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If we Brexit, I fully expect the media to run down the street pushing Boris and Nigel out of the way in a desperate bid to reach Corbyn's doorstep and say it's all his fault
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Jun 3, 2016 16:37
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:If we Brexit, I fully expect the media to run down the street pushing Boris and Nigel out of the way in a desperate bid to reach Corbyn's doorstep and say it's all his fault 'Why didn't the Labour Remain vote appear?' Jeremy Corbyn weak leadership on Europe may have given Leave the edge it needed.
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Jun 3, 2016 16:43
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peanut- posted:Heh, apparently people aren't that easily fooled. 
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Jun 3, 2016 16:47
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He began his speech by ridiculing the idea that leaving will cause economic collapse - which is the strongest argument remain has - and then basically explained that the real actual EU is a bit poo poo but he'd support a different one. I mean, the theme of his speech was "another Europe is possible", so it's understandable if people aren't sure whether he thinks the Europe they're voting for on June 23 is any good. I'm not saying anything he said was actually wrong though.
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Jun 3, 2016 16:52
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The 25% who said "don't know" are the only sensible ones imo. Corbyn's actual personal opinion on the leave debate (rather than the party line he promotes) is ambiguous at best and that's entirely okay.
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Jun 3, 2016 16:54
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silly Corbyn, you're not supposed to be honest!
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Jun 3, 2016 16:56
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Mam's voting leave because "It's time britain took back britain."
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Jun 3, 2016 17:12
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://twitter.com/DavidAllenGreen/status/738398104861478916 It's good that he's mentioning a legalistic perspective; from a political perspective, a conviction of election fraud would make the MPs' position untenable.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:25
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Did anyone think that there was a legalistic perspective for triggering a byelection? I didn't think you could actually boot an MP out for anything short of long jail sentences causing them to be unable to attend parliament to be honest, they can't even resign as far as I know.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:27
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OwlFancier posted:Mam's voting leave because "It's time britain took back britain." I do wonder what would happen with these people if Leave were to win and the country immediately failed to get less brown. Probably elect Labour on a platform of CONTROLS ON IMMIGRATION
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Jun 3, 2016 17:28
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She assures me it's not about hating immigrants but "we let too many people in who shouldn't be here and already have criminal records"
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Jun 3, 2016 17:28
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Sounds a lot like Britain's old policy re: Australia. Or Australia's old policy re: Britain perhaps.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:30
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OwlFancier posted:She assures me it's not about hating immigrants but "we let too many people in who shouldn't be here and already have criminal records" Ah yes, "I'm not racist, but"
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Jun 3, 2016 17:30
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TinTower posted:It's good that he's mentioning a legalistic perspective; from a political perspective, a conviction of election fraud would make the MPs' position untenable. like if the tabloids got themselves into the sort of frothing rage they usually reserve for filthy leftists not singing the national anthem then it would be game over but I just don't think it's going to happen
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Jun 3, 2016 17:36
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LemonDrizzle posted:"gently caress it, we can't win the economic argument so let's just go for pure racism and lies"  Turkey WANT to join the EU in order to reap the benefits of the system but their human rights records have been legendarily monstrous and beyond contemptible, so if they were allowed in there would be an uproar in Brussels for certain.So it's currently being debated I believe and not a certainty, but I am pretty sure the EU are going to say "listen stop treating people like utter poo poo with your church-and-state bullshit because we don't do that here", because EU are powerful enough even in this climate to tell a country to gently caress off. Actually curious question, is Russia in the EU at all? OwlFancier posted:She assures me it's not about hating immigrants but "we let too many people in who shouldn't be here and already have criminal records" 
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Jun 3, 2016 17:36
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ThomasPaine posted:Don't hold me to this because I'm no scientist but I believe it will in the long run because the ice caps will melt and that'll dilute the oceans somewhat which will likely stop the gulf stream (which relies on a pretty exact ocean balance). As that is one of the things that keeps us warm for our latitude, we'd likely end up with a much colder climate. There have been simulations done which model the effect of having no Arctic ice cap and they came to slightly surprising results - the jet stream won't go away it will just get more amplified i.e. more wavy. This is due to low and high pressures will be on average stronger, which results in the extreme weather being stronger as well. What effect that would have on the UK is that we probably are more likely to go from cold to hot more than we have historically, instead of the normally settled weather we do have. FYI. On the note of the ice caps there is a chance the Arctic could be in effect ice free this year, the ice melt is beyond the previous records by significant margins so this year will be a good indicator long term what having no arctic ice will do to the weather.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:39
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FinalGamer posted:Actually curious question, is Russia in the EU at all? They are in the ECtHR jurisdiction though. They've been accused of ignoring it a lot though, but a high proportion of the cases heard in the court are from Russia or surrounding states. Except Belarus, which plain is not in it.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:40
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Yeah turkey are apparently miles off meeting the criteria of being able to join and nobody will vote for them, it's scare tactics.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:41
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She isn't even particularly racist, she just thinks the worst of everyone and god knows there's disproportionate amounts of blame being shoveled on immigrants/foreigners/muslims/terrorists/all literally the same thing why even make the distinction amirite, and she doesn't seem interested in questioning it. So she's racist but, like, as a function of a more general misanthropy. She takes cynicism to a level where it sort of loops back round into some kind of inverse idealism. I really don't understand my mother.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:41
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FinalGamer posted:I'm pretty sure Turkey aren't? Russia? lol I'm pretty sure that everyone has a veto over new members anyway.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:41
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OwlFancier posted:Did anyone think that there was a legalistic perspective for triggering a byelection? I didn't think you could actually boot an MP out for anything short of long jail sentences causing them to be unable to attend parliament to be honest, they can't even resign as far as I know. There are, IIRC, two ways election fraud cases can be tried:
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Jun 3, 2016 17:43
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OwlFancier posted:She assures me it's not about hating immigrants but "we let too many people in who shouldn't be here and already have criminal records" I got to sit through a wonderful "discussion" at work yesterday about how that no good ECHR prevents us from hanging all the paedophiles, and how the speaker would quite happily take a job tying the noose and pulling the lever. Which is like, wow, yeah, totally an opinion it's appropriate for any kind of healthcare worker to express out loud, that we should start murdering sick people because rehabilitating them is too expensive and inconvenient. What started this was mention of a previous incident where the sexual health doctor I work with expressed pity towards convicts, which in my experience seems to be a popular hot button subject with nurses who tend to immediately go off on a "but what about the victims???" rant. (tangent: casual bikechat with a different nurse capping off with "Think Bike? They should tell bikers to Think Car!!  ". I'd ask Namtab what it is that makes nurses go funny like this but I think I can guess)
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Jun 3, 2016 17:44
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OwlFancier posted:Mam's voting leave because "It's time britain took back britain." His position is the least honest of any of the main figures of this referendum.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:45
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it is sort of funny how Cameron has jumped all over the immigrants bad bandwagon because he wants to appeal to racists and what have you and is now being hosed by the very obvious fact that there isn't much you can do about immigration from the Eu when you're in the Eu poor strategic thinking imho
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Jun 3, 2016 17:45
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What is your guess because nurses being very specific brands of mental is kind of weird to me and I've noticed it too.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:45
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fairly constant exposure to horrific injuries and dying people is my guess
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