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EclecticTastes posted:I only recently learned that the American opening theme is the actual melody for one of the Japanese intros. Too bad DBZ got stuck with the generic buttrock (still better than most Toonami series, they didn't get their OPs played at all). Dragon Ball Z got a different opener in Canada, and it is much worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEl9skiNc88
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In Japanese, Sailor Moon's speech to the bad guys actually refers to herself as "the Sailor-Suited Pretty Guardian, Sailor Moon," so I'm pretty sure that's a literal translation.
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Would it ruin the fun if I took a peek at the original Japanese version and pointed out what some of the more nonsensical translations were supposed to mean? I don't want to get all elitist and nitpick the whole thing but I'm just wondering if anyone's curious what some of those parts that straight up didn't make sense were actually supposed to be saying. Also best SNES Sailor Moon game was the Sailor Moon R beat-em up because you could play as Rini and everyone's attacks would go right over your head. You could very nearly beat the whole game without taking damage.
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Lady Naga posted:Dragon Ball Z got a different opener in Canada, and it is much worse  That... that sure is an attempt at music, there. So, I decided to hit up Hulu and watch some Sailor Moon, and it turned out there was a story arc that never aired on Toonami (the one with the Sailor Starlights where the bad guys are Sailors that turn people in fake Sailors and everything is Sailors), and that's how I've just learned of Sailor Chibi Chibi Moon. It's like they looked at
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVrVTinOsBw We also got our own opening for the original Dragon Ball, which is equally amazing. ~friends working together~
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EclecticTastes posted:and that's how I've just learned of Sailor Chibi Chibi Moon. It's like they looked at Yeah it's a good thing she isn't in this game. But not for why you think. incredibly metal
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Lady Naga posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVrVTinOsBw Odd I am canadian and I remember this being the opening for when I watched it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT1Dp69D7q0 Which I think is literally a translation of the original opening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7kZVH849Eo
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MonsterEnvy posted:Odd I am canadian and I remember this being the opening for when I watched it. There's like 4 or 5 dubs for both Dragon Balls (I think GT only has the one though) so it's dependant on what year and what channel you watched.
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Lady Naga posted:There's like 4 or 5 dubs for both Dragon Balls (I think GT only has the one though) so it's dependant on what year and what channel you watched. I think GT had two as well or at least Canada and US had different openings. To at least relate this to Sailor Moon here is the original opening for the anime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Rvwu8Wykw MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Oh boy, oh boy, I don't know how I missed this thread.  I am unabashedly a huge Sailor Moon fan to this day but I've never actually played this game for more than maybe 15 minutes when I was twelve or thirteen. I don't remember anything but the opening area so I'm pretty excited to see how bad this gets. God speed, OP.
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MonsterEnvy posted:To at least relate this to Sailor Moon here is the original opening for the anime
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Lady Naga posted:Dragon Ball Z got a different opener in Canada, and it is much better ftfy
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Lady Naga posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVrVTinOsBw It's like they wanted to Buttrock up the Gummi Bears lyrics both in tempo and content.
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Lady Naga posted:Dragon Ball Z got a different opener in Canada, and it is much worse say what you will about the Ocean dub for DBZ but it was loving hilarious...just not for the reasons they intended. Also I laugh at all the people flipping their poo poo over the censoring considering this was done in the era where Spider-Man couldn't beat anyone up and could only web them up
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Aces High posted:say what you will about the Ocean dub for DBZ but it was loving hilarious...just not for the reasons they intended. Also I laugh at all the people flipping their poo poo over the censoring considering this was done in the era where Spider-Man couldn't beat anyone up and could only web them up Why focus on Spider-Man when the same show had The Punisher and Carnage. A serial killer with knife-hands and Frank Castle ...didn't quite mesh well with 90s cartoon censorship. Meanwhile, Batman could punch anyone he wanted. Different networks. Different standards.
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chiasaur11 posted:Meanwhile, Batman could punch anyone he wanted. Different networks. Different standards. Actually no. The reason a lot of fights involve flashes or are in silhouette is because they, too, could not show a punch connect. Exception: the robot episodes, if they let on first "yeah, this isn't a people"
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Are you going to make things easier for yourself and use the game's cheat code to start at level 16? After showing off the horrors of the solo missions first of course. 
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SystemLogoff posted:Are you going to make things easier for yourself and use the game's cheat code to start at level 16? wait what
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chiasaur11 posted:Why focus on Spider-Man when the same show had The Punisher and Carnage. A serial killer with knife-hands and Frank Castle ...didn't quite mesh well with 90s cartoon censorship. or the Living Vampire couldn't bite people or take blood, he had to take "Plasma" through holes in his hands. There were some really weird workarounds.
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END ME SCOOB posted:wait what welcome to the only way I beat this game
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Aces High posted:say what you will about the Ocean dub for DBZ but it was loving hilarious...just not for the reasons they intended. Also I laugh at all the people flipping their poo poo over the censoring considering this was done in the era where Spider-Man couldn't beat anyone up and could only web them up Spider-Man also couldn't have real guns so they had these weird purple laser cannons. There is something rather feelbad about deliberately removing/obfuscating things from a show as opposed to intentionally working around them, though.
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Getsuya posted:Would it ruin the fun if I took a peek at the original Japanese version and pointed out what some of the more nonsensical translations were supposed to mean? I don't want to get all elitist and nitpick the whole thing but I'm just wondering if anyone's curious what some of those parts that straight up didn't make sense were actually supposed to be saying. If you want to do this, I'd love to hear what some of this poo poo is in the original tongue.  Alright, gently caress it, let's do this. Last giant infodump post for a while. Let's meet the Inner Senshi, aka, the Sailors relating to the innermost planets of the solar system. In order they appear in the series, as opposed to this cutscene...  / Ami Mizuno/Sailor Mercury Ami is the best, and I say this entirely without bias*. She controls water and ice, is the brains of the operation, and tends to get pegged as "the weak one" due to a lot of her powers not being offensive in nature in the anime. In her human form she's  / Rei Hino/Sailor Mars Rei is a shrine maiden who is  / Makoto Kino/Sailor Jupiter Makoto is the raw power player on the team. In her human form she's athletic enough to manhandle Youma, and, I poo poo you not, her first appearance and transformation in the manga ends with her electrocuting Nephrite to death with her very first attack. Do not gently caress with Makoto. You have probably already guessed she has electrical abilities, but she towers over the rest of the cast**** as the tallest, being of such 'giant proportion' she has to wear her former school's uniform, the one she attends with the cast doesn't have anything in her size. Despite this, she's probably the biggest homebody of the team, being an accomplished chef and a sucker for romance second only to...  / Minako Aino/Sailor Venus/Sailor V Minako is technically the first character to be active post-rebirth, and she actually had her own globe-trotting adventures prior to the Sailor Moon series in a short manga called "Codename: Sailor V". She straight up had her own side cast and everything. She's arguably the most fleshed out character because of this, unless you go by the anime, where she just sort of acts as "shittier Usagi" because they just go "SAILOR V!" once and I think maybe one episode elaborates on her pre-Venus adventures. Make no mistake, though, she seriously is proto-Usagi if you read that series. You'd think based on the above characters she'd get either wind or earth attacks, but no. She actually has a bunch of love-themed powers, by which I mean "attacks which are heart-shaped or consist of lines/beams/etc. of hearts". Remember when I said that two of Serenity and Endymion's guardians cock-blocked them? Venus was that figure on the Moon side of things. Also she has the second talking cat, Artemis. Artemis shits on her so hard, he's the rear end in a top hat dad of the cat pair. OKAY ON WITH THE GAME (until I stop for a minute to just poo poo on it again because this is a terrible introduction)  (running up to Rei's family shrine) Everyone! Transform! A Daimon came back to life in town! Are the Death Busters back too? Usagi, are you sure you didn't dream that? Go screw, Rei. Ami belives me, right? (looking around) Ami is... not here to believe me.(Ami walks onto screen a few seconds later) Sorry, I came as fast as I could. I was talking to Urawa-kun. ...Okay, sure. Let's just go inside. Okay, so, the next words in this conversation are totally going to relate to the danger in town, right? Hahaha no this game is terrible. It's been a long time since you've seen Urawa-kun, hasn't it? He came to Tokyo for his holidays. So where are you two going to go while he's in town? Well, there are some national exams coming up, so... the library? I feel that if this game were not half-assed there would be a facepalm sprite here for our heroines. But it is, so there isn't. You want to go to the library with him?! (simultaneously) Oh reeeeally...? So what are your date plans after that? Huh?! (blushing) It's not like that at all! We can't date... we're still in junior high! Okay so I hate that "blushing" sprite right there (yes, that's what that is), and I doubly hate this dialogue. But we'll get there. Usagi asks again, despite this statement, "So where are you going?", and then Minako walks in.  And she has hearts in her dialogue randomly, because she's Sailor Venus, you see. Thankfully, they were all waiting for their last teammate to arrive before they talked about the crisis at ha- What's wrong, Ami? Your face is crimson. Hey, Ami's got a boyfriend! And he's coming here soon! MAKOTO! It's not like that at all! Oh my god thank you for stopping this. This is Yuuichirou. He also works at the shrine.  How're you all doing? (He walks over to Rei.) Rei, you look better than ever today! (blushing) Th-thank you, Yuuichirou... Well, see you all! (He exits.) Sooooo, Rei... Wh-what was that, Usagi? Why are you using that tone of voice?! Because of what just happened. You and Yuuichirou are... great friends, right?(I refuse to transcribe another ten lines of Rei and Usagi playing Dick Chicken.) Well, who's YOUR boyfriend then, Usagi? Who, me? It's Mamoru. We have a future kid. We're destined moon lovers.(The entire room takes turns swooning or being jealous as Usagi blushes. Again, I refuse to transcribe this. It literally ends in Makoto and Minako going "I want a boyfriend." "Me too.")  Don't you have to go, Ami? Ah! You're right! Thanks, Luna! See you all later! (She exits.) So... we're gonna follow her, right? That's... really mean. ...But I want to know. It's settled! Yaaay!(Everyone gets up to leave save Makoto.) Aren't you coming? I stand firm on this. I'm worried about her. Oh, alright, just this once.I DIDN'T ALTER THOSE LAST FOUR LINES AT ALL. So, let's just take a look at this. I want you to imagine that you have never dealt with this franchise before. Admittedly, you'd probably not be in that state going into this game. But pretend you have. This scene was straight up what every young idiot who went "Sailor Moon is for girls" was imagining in their head, and for some loving reason this is the very first thing we do to introduce our party. Not only that, it is a motherfucking reach to be lovely in this way. Urawa-kun was a dude who appeared in two episodes of the anime. Yuuichirou was also only in the anime, and while he crushed on her hardcore, they were 'coworkers'. Every one of these five knows Usagi is going to shack up with Mamoru, because they've all babysat and fought alongside her kid. I'm not even going to be that dude who goes "this is bullshit because X, Y, and Z scenes and character moments", this whole scene is just bullshit writing. Usagi came up a few hours after fighting a time paradox and critically failed the Bechdel Test. gently caress this game. * Quote my wife upon seeing the tiny figurine shrine: "When we started dating I carried around a bunch of gadgets and I'm smarter than you. Is this your way of telling me you have a type?" ** Whether she took this role by brutally murdering anyone who trumps her in a test score is up for debate due to a silly side-story in the manga. *** Other terrible references nearly used here: calling Usagi "Asian Phoenix" **** Please try not to think too hard about proportions of the characters, especially between different incarnations, and because keep in mind despite the raw legginess of any character Takeuchi draws, they are all some weird-rear end heights according to "official materials". If I can find the chart that includes that stuff again I'll post it, it's hilarious with the actual numbers.
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END ME SCOOB posted:You'd think based on the above characters she'd get either wind or earth attacks, but no.
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Makoto towers over the rest of the scouts at a staggering 168cm (5'6").
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END ME SCOOB posted:She's also sort of a pacifist, fighting in self-defense, but generally being the one who goes "Hey how about we hear so-and-so out before we all summon elemental death, what do you say". To be fair, none of the girls are ever happy about asking the one whose element is Death to do anything.
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:Makoto towers over the rest of the scouts at a staggering 168cm (5'6"). That said, the way people react to her is pretty exaggerated. She's tall but she's not like 5'10'' or something. Endorph fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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It looks like Ami and Makoto got redrawn entirely for Sailor Mercury and Sailor Jupiter, but turning Rei and Minako into Sailor Mars and Sailor Venus was just an edit job. I'm curious why, especially because it looks like Ami and Makoto have lighter hair once they transformed. Was that deliberate, or a technical limitation? Makoto's elemental association of wood does sort of come through. Aren't there oak leaves when she uses some of her attacks? I know in the live action one they had her do some magical sensing thing and showed trees rustling in the wind. As a brief fill-in for those wondering: Japan has a different element system, which is Fire, Wood, Water, Metal, and Earth. Jupiter is associated with wood (as I recall its name means "wood star" in Japanese). If you want to know more, ask someone who knows.
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END ME SCOOB posted:You'd think based on the above characters she'd get either wind or earth attacks, but no. I mean, she does have a "Venus Sulfur Smoke" attack in the Sailor V manga, so there's that. Summoning giant fart clouds just isn't much of a team attack is all.
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Sailor Venus has this weird Flowers for Algernon thing going where she seems to get progressively dumber over the course of the anime to distinguish herself from Sailor Moon. She kind of starts as this independent and cool role model and...well the game will do the rest.
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I wouldn't say Minako becomes dumber, she just has a tendency to think with what she's got between her legs, and is active while Usagi is more lazy and weepy.
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MechaCrash posted:As a brief fill-in for those wondering: Japan has a different element system, which is Fire, Wood, Water, Metal, and Earth. Jupiter is associated with wood (as I recall its name means "wood star" in Japanese). If you want to know more, ask someone who knows. FractalSandwich fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Sailor Moon is one of those weird areas for me because the only version of it I've ever experienced any of is this one.
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END ME SCOOB posted:
I accidentally got a friend to start marathon-watching the anime a few days ago, and he observed that the senshi are actually way more likely to get their asses kicked in a fight whenever Mercury doesn't lead off with her bubble attack. Also, in her early drafts of the manga, Naoko Takeuchi originally planned for her to be a cyborg and to be killed off permanently at the end of the first story arc. Neither of those things ended up happening.
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MechaCrash posted:Makoto's elemental association of wood does sort of come through. Aren't there oak leaves when she uses some of her attacks? I know in the live action one they had her do some magical sensing thing and showed trees rustling in the wind. Having recently watched some of the Sailor Stars arc, I can confirm that Jupiter does eventually get a wood-themed attack, "Jupiter Oak Evolution". This is what this thread has done to me so far.
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Minako using metal kind of makes sense, since chains are made of metal and one of her attacks is Wink Chain Sword. Doesn't explain Crescent Beam though.
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Revenant Threshold posted:Sailor Moon is one of those weird areas for me because the only version of it I've ever experienced any of is this one. That's hosed up man. But you did get the best version of Mercury (when she's evil).
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Technically wind goes to Haruka AKA Sailor Uranus Ami shares the water element with Michiru AKA Sailor Neptune.
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I pick up this show back up where I left off and the first thing that happens is Jadeite gets crushed by a rogue airliner on an airport runway and Liam O'Brien shows up to replace him as the next villain. So good.
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Getting some heavy SNES/GBA Fire Emblem vibes from these facial sprites. That's probably just the whole anime thing, though.
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Chimera-gui posted:Technically wind goes to Haruka AKA Sailor Uranus Ami shares the water element with Michiru AKA Sailor Neptune. Uranus seemed more like Earth than wind, her first attack is Earth Shaking.
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