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Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Pilsner posted:

Opposed to what we use in my country:




(custom flat toggle switches on top, blind plate in the middle, wall outlet at the bottom)



Ignoring the comical smiley look of the 3-prong plugs, they are super stylish and minimalist, have no visible screws (but are still easy to install), take up only 50x50mm space per module (for example one ceiling light switch), and are super easy to toggle just with a gentle nudge. They can be framed either super-thin or with a wider frame depending on the design or look you want.

Get with the times!
This stuff looks horrible to use, are these older plugs and things? Looks vintage

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Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


TinTower posted:

1994, actually.

It was seen as such a common domestic skill it took EU legislation to change the British attitude. :v:

IIRC Douglas Adams had a joke about men only being needed to put the plugs on cords. I had to get that one explained to me.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef

hackbunny posted:

The American everyday object with a surprisingly alien design, for me, was the doorknob. American doorknobs manage to feel big and heavy and flimsy at the same time. Big rattly spring-loaded things that threaten to come off in your hand at the slightest provocation

Would you mind posting a comparison?

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

moller posted:

<swamp water>

Are you Canadian?

When I was a little kid and would mix flavors at the soda taps my father referred to it as "swamp water." It's weird to see that other people called it that as well.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

"we put a FUSE in every plug because our national wiring standard involves insane ring circuits that would burn down every house otherwise" hmm yes perfect

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Dick Trauma posted:

When I was a little kid and would mix flavors at the soda taps my father referred to it as "swamp water." It's weird to see that other people called it that as well.

I've heard it be called a Suicide. My mother insists that she was the first one to ever do it at the old Tasty Freeze in Berkley, Michigan (currently a Frosty Freeze on Coolidge) back in the 1970s.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Jack in the Box has them in the East Bay.

I'm a Midwesterner, but thanks.

twistedmentat posted:

Yep, mine too. I think I prefer the lime more, because coke orange tastes like old classic kids drink swamp water. That's when you put some of all the pops in a cup, the orange always over powers the rest.

I pretty much love lime anything. On a similar front, more places need good cherry limeaid.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Pilsner posted:

Something I've noticed for a long time that's just godawful: American light switches and wall plugs. Example:





Unnecessarily big, visible screws, hard to toggle (relatively speaking), old fashioned in a bad way.


Sometimes it's okay to leave things alone. Also, you can hit an American light switch easier in the dark. Just wipe your hand on the wall. Lining up the screws on the faceplates is also a good way to impress people with your OCD.

Our wall sockets are in fact garbage, but there's no feasible way to overcome the inertia on those.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Explosionface posted:

Also, you can hit an American light switch easier in the dark. Just wipe your hand on the wall.
But can you elbow it when you've got your hands full?

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

Explosionface posted:

Sometimes it's okay to leave things alone. Also, you can hit an American light switch easier in the dark. Just wipe your hand on the wall. Lining up the screws on the faceplates is also a good way to impress people with your OCD.

Our wall sockets are in fact garbage, but there's no feasible way to overcome the inertia on those.

What's wrong with American wall sockets? They're polarized, grounded, and backwards-compatible with older two-prong devices. With current code updates mandating tamper-resistant shutters, they're even hard for little Timmy to electrocute himself without REALLY trying.

Plus, if you switch to using Decora for everything, it's easy to get keystone plates for up to six keystones so you can have a bunch of low-voltage stuff with the same cover plates as your outlets and switches.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

hackbunny posted:

Compact, inline, symmetrical (AC polarity is a lie).

Neutral is typically tied to ground, so there's definitely a difference safety-wise even though there isn't a fundamental electrical difference.

Though I suppose with symmetric plugs the appliances are all designed such that they're sufficiently safe regardless of which is hot and which is neutral. But you could run into issues if you use a travel adapter with an appliance designed for a polarized plug...

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Flipperwaldt posted:

But can you elbow it when you've got your hands full?

I know I certainly can and do.


Magnus Praeda posted:

What's wrong with American wall sockets? They're polarized, grounded, and backwards-compatible with older two-prong devices. With current code updates mandating tamper-resistant shutters, they're even hard for little Timmy to electrocute himself without REALLY trying.

My biggest issues are usually plugs finding a way to come out just a little bit exposing live conductors or the polarized part causing wall warts to always be in the wrong orientation. The incremental improvements over time have definitely helped.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Explosionface posted:

Sometimes it's okay to leave things alone. Also, you can hit an American light switch easier in the dark. Just wipe your hand on the wall. Lining up the screws on the faceplates is also a good way to impress people with your OCD.

Our wall sockets are in fact garbage, but there's no feasible way to overcome the inertia on those.

I don't think so, you just hit these ones closer to the top or bottom, you can also do it easily with an elbow (or even nose) if your hands are busy or dirty. The sockets are definitely lovely, yeah.

UK plugs/sockets look like over-engineered garbage. EU are fine even though the grounded ones are too bulky for my taste. The "best" ones I've seen so far are definitely the Thai ones, just check this out:



Used it myself with EU and American plugs and they work fine if a bit loose with the thinner EU prongs. I would guess they'd also work with UK and Australian ones, at least.

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals

Tunicate posted:

Yeah you can make soda, but what's your MPM?

This was a few pages back, but just wanted to say I got this (and found it funny!)

For those not in the know, it's Margaritas per Minute, from the wonderful Margarita making machine thread in GBS a number of years ago.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

mobby_6kl posted:

I don't think so, you just hit these ones closer to the top or bottom, you can also do it easily with an elbow (or even nose) if your hands are busy or dirty. The sockets are definitely lovely, yeah.

UK plugs/sockets look like over-engineered garbage. EU are fine even though the grounded ones are too bulky for my taste. The "best" ones I've seen so far are definitely the Thai ones, just check this out:



Used it myself with EU and American plugs and they work fine if a bit loose with the thinner EU prongs. I would guess they'd also work with UK and Australian ones, at least.

They work with almost anything, including British, Aussie and even Chinese:




Which seem to be that design just to be contrary.

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

Aristophanes posted:

Come to NZ/Australia. There's Schweppes raspberry, and it's a common part of drink dispensers. It tastes great mixed with coke.
The Raspberry in Coke-branded soda fountains is actually Kirks Raspberry (It's all Coca-Cola Amatil anyway).

Coke with (orange) Fanta is great.
What's funny and stupid is they released a Lemon Fanta for a while.
Even though Coke already and still make this:

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Magnus Praeda posted:

What's wrong with American wall sockets? They're polarized, grounded, and backwards-compatible with older two-prong devices. With current code updates mandating tamper-resistant shutters, they're even hard for little Timmy to electrocute himself without REALLY trying.

Plus, if you switch to using Decora for everything, it's easy to get keystone plates for up to six keystones so you can have a bunch of low-voltage stuff with the same cover plates as your outlets and switches.

US uses 110v so there is less risk, as such, they can be simpler. Most other countries use 220v? to my understanding. As such, there is significant risk to grounding out. I've zapped myself with 110 many a time but after getting myself with 220 once, I'll never do it again. It sucks to have your whole body lock up. Rewiring a cable end for a welder with the other end plugged in is not a good idea. Live and learn.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Croccers posted:

The Raspberry in Coke-branded soda fountains is actually Kirks Raspberry (It's all Coca-Cola Amatil anyway).

Coke with (orange) Fanta is great.
What's funny and stupid is they released a Lemon Fanta for a while.
Even though Coke already and still make this:


gently caress Lift. It's Solo or nothing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mJSOaO7cAU
(every kid in class tried to do the kayak slide back then after seeing it)

It's one of the later ads but the 80s ones were just as bad.

Toys For Ass Bum
Feb 1, 2015

Croccers posted:

The Raspberry in Coke-branded soda fountains is actually Kirks Raspberry (It's all Coca-Cola Amatil anyway).

Coke with (orange) Fanta is great.
What's funny and stupid is they released a Lemon Fanta for a while.
Even though Coke already and still make this:



http://www.coca-colajourney.com.au/brands/fanta/fanta-lemon
http://www.coca-colajourney.com.au/brands/lift/

They still sell both, apparently :saddowns:

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

moller posted:

suicide

Are you Canadian?

Samizdata posted:

I'm a Midwesterner, but thanks.


I pretty much love lime anything. On a similar front, more places need good cherry limeaid.

Grape is my goto flavor, but thanks to 90s comedians, there's a huge stigma attached to grape pop. Lime is my backup, then orange.

I can't think of the last time I saw a coffee vending machine. I guess people would be skeptical these days of just getting coffee in a paper cup from a machine.

nocal
Mar 7, 2007

twistedmentat posted:

Grape is my goto flavor, but thanks to 90s comedians, there's a huge stigma attached to grape pop. Lime is my backup, then orange.

I can't think of the last time I saw a coffee vending machine. I guess people would be skeptical these days of just getting coffee in a paper cup from a machine.

90s comedians are the reason I don't stand in front of brick walls, roll up the sleeves on my blazer, or gently caress other men.

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

nocal posted:

90s comedians are the reason I don't stand in front of brick walls, roll up the sleeves on my blazer, or gently caress other men.
You haven't lived until you've cornholed a dude in front of a brick wall.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


Yeah that was disgusting, they should have just called it Coke with Flavor Additives 315 and 361 (TM), with the advertising line "Can YOU work out what it tastes like?"

Pilsner posted:



Unnecessarily big, visible screws, hard to toggle (relatively speaking), old fashioned in a bad way.

Switches like that are good for attaching a system of strings and pulleys to when you're a kid (I learned from a friend).

mobby_6kl posted:

The "best" ones I've seen so far are definitely the Thai ones, just check this out:



Used it myself with EU and American plugs and they work fine if a bit loose with the thinner EU prongs. I would guess they'd also work with UK and Australian ones, at least.

It looks like these are in a hotel, unless every house in Thailand also needs you to insert a door pass into a slot to get any of the lights to turn on? :v: Lots of hotels have those universal sockets, does literally every house in Thailand actually have them?

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007

GPU thread crosspost

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Still better than my GTX 760, or the 9500 GT I had before it.

lazydog
Apr 15, 2003

Pilsner posted:

Something I've noticed for a long time that's just godawful: American light switches and wall plugs. Example:





Unnecessarily big, visible screws, hard to toggle (relatively speaking), old fashioned in a bad way.



Americans have lots of options for wall switches and outlets, like


But the old fashioned toggle switches and outlets cost less than 50 cents each. The stuff with hidden screws is a bit more expensive, and most people don't care enough to either request it in new construction, or to replace their existing ones.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


Samizdata posted:

Still better than my GTX 760, or the 9500 GT I had before it.

You wouldn't buy it anymore with Pascal cards outperforming and undercutting it, though.

EDIT: You could probably argue this extends to halo computer components in general, really.

dont be mean to me has a new favorite as of 09:03 on Jun 11, 2016

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
GTX 760: still not as obsolete as my 650 Ti! What's rather mind blowing is that, despite being orders of magnitude slower than anything in the 10xx range, it still runs everything very acceptably at 1080p.

Buttcoin purse posted:

It looks like these are in a hotel, unless every house in Thailand also needs you to insert a door pass into a slot to get any of the lights to turn on? :v: Lots of hotels have those universal sockets, does literally every house in Thailand actually have them?

Yes this was from a hotel, but every single socket that I've seen there in two weeks was like that. Either they do a brilliant job of guessing where a tourist might possibly show up, or they're just all like that :)

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treiz01
Jan 2, 2008

There is little that makes me happier than taking drugs. Perhaps administering them, designing and carrying out experiments that bend the plane of what we consider reality.

I bought a GTX 970 6 months ago :( It's now hopelessly outdated AND basically worthless.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib

lazydog posted:

Americans have lots of options for wall switches and outlets, like


But the old fashioned toggle switches and outlets cost less than 50 cents each. The stuff with hidden screws is a bit more expensive, and most people don't care enough to either request it in new construction, or to replace their existing ones.

This is the best plug because it's :monocle:

moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!

less than three posted:

This is the best plug because it's :monocle:


dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


mobby_6kl posted:

GTX 760: still not as obsolete as my 650 Ti! What's rather mind blowing is that, despite being orders of magnitude slower than anything in the 10xx range, it still runs everything very acceptably at 1080p.

Yeah. I mean, there's things like bus-powered GTX 950s out there, and unless you're used to ALL THE GRAPHICS cards you'd probably be fine with one. Most people's gaming is on phones these days, and when they aren't they still have their experiences shaped by 360s and PS3s. Maybe sick graphics generally belong in this thread, I dunno.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Why did the switches with the knob you push in die out?

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

I have a GeForce GT 720 which seemed pretty great when I got it for free, and I mostly don't play any games on it that aren't in DOSBox anyway, but now when I try to play the recently-released Doom E1M8 from John Romero in the Doomsday engine with all the high res textures, 3D models, etc., I don't get very many FPS. I thought just about any card should be good enough to play a game from 23 years ago :saddowns:

Anyway this all means I have no freaking idea why a GTX 970 is obsolete. Surely they are still making drivers for it? Did a new version of DirectX or shader model or something come out that Grand Theft Auto 17 is going to use and GTX 970 doesn't support it?

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Buttcoin purse posted:

Doomsday engine with all the high res textures, 3D models, etc.
...
a game from 23 years ago

By that point, it absolutely isn't a game from 23 years ago anymore.

Firstly, the Doomsday engine is horribly unoptimized, GZDoom is so much better. Secondly, hi-res textures and 3D models in Doom? What are you, some kind of heretic?

Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

cheerfullydrab posted:

Why did the switches with the knob you push in die out?


they're too hard to push

and dimmers make the new style light bulbs explode or something

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Buttcoin purse posted:

Anyway this all means I have no freaking idea why a GTX 970 is obsolete. Surely they are still making drivers for it? Did a new version of DirectX or shader model or something come out that Grand Theft Auto 17 is going to use and GTX 970 doesn't support it?

It's not obsolete, but when it comes to GPUs some people divide the world into "obsolete" and "cutting edge". It's nonsense, and it sells graphics cards.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.

Jedit posted:

It's nonsense, and it sells graphics cards.

Makes sense to me.

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DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




KozmoNaut posted:

By that point, it absolutely isn't a game from 23 years ago anymore.

Firstly, the Doomsday engine is horribly unoptimized, GZDoom is so much better. Secondly, hi-res textures and 3D models in Doom? What are you, some kind of heretic Hexen?

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