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Elliotw2 posted:The Android end is happening, since the Moto Z and a couple of other high end phones are confirmed to not have headphone jacks. Motorola is at least being nice and including a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter. Motorola doesn't have anything to do with Google anymore and they're a bit player in the Android world anyway.
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dissss posted:Motorola doesn't have anything to do with Google anymore and they're a bit player in the Android world anyway. :cryingmotox:
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well why not posted:My gaming PC still has a GTX460. It runs fairly recent games just fine. Very overdue for an update, so relieved I waited for the 10xx series to come out. I have a GTX 760 and it's surprising how the newest games will run just fine, provided you're willing to drop down to medium settings. I am also looking to upgrade to a 1070, though. We've come a long way since the days of the early 2000's when you had to replace your rig every two years if you wanted to play new games at all. Or maybe I'm just remembering it that way.
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I feel like I want to give a lot of credit to Blizzard. Say what you will about the actual content of WoW, but the game was incredibly optimized. I don't feel like looking up any hard numbers right now, but that game would run with extremely old hardware compared to other games at the time. Yes, it had a really low bottom-end of graphic fidelity, but it helped set the expectation that your computer doesn't have to be trashed after a year or two passed
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I played that poo poo with an old rear end AMD CPU, 512mb of ram and a 256mb AGP graphics card well into WotLK. So yeah, it was pretty well optimized. Though I did raid molten core with everything turned down to minimum and my camera zoomed all the way in looking at the floor unless I wanted 5 FPS. Doing that I got maybe 9. At least I was a healer and UI mods were the biggest factor in that.
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IIRC, I played our first Illidan kill on the Intel integrated in my old thinkpad. With everything turned down it was just barely playable, but slowed down unpleasantly when there were too many AoE effects. For maximum gooniness, I was in London to visit some of the other WoW guys, sleeping over at our guildmaster's house.
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twistedmentat posted:Sound Cards. Does anyone who isn't a professional musician actually have separate sound cards on computers these days?
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Jun 12, 2016 12:19
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Obsolete technology and video card chat: Here's the video card in my old desktop, which I haven't touched in years: And for the record, here's the board I'm using it in: 
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Sentient Data posted:I feel like I want to give a lot of credit to Blizzard. Say what you will about the actual content of WoW, but the game was incredibly optimized. I don't feel like looking up any hard numbers right now, but that game would run with extremely old hardware compared to other games at the time. I ran Witcher 3 on a GTX 460 for a while. Sure, settings had to be pretty low, but my framerates were actually playable. I upgraded anyway so I could make the game prettier but the point stands that CD Projekt Red made a game that's optimized well enough that you can still run it at a playable framerate with a card 3 generations behind their stated minimum.
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Samizdata posted:Mkay, what were the other 70% then? Yeah, I am saying citation needed here. 
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I knew a fucker who lashed four of these bastards together when they were at their prime. Wtf, dude. He made models for tf2 items, which made him dosh, but gently caress if he didn't spend it as soon as it came in. He had a monster computer, but would come up short rent, and his roomie would pull his rear end out of a sling. What a dick.
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Wilford Cutlery posted:Obsolete technology and video card chat: Here's the video card in my old desktop, which I haven't touched in years: Maaaaan, I had always wanted to run a dual chip board back in my Athlon days. How much RAM can you fit on that bad boy? Give us the specs! I still have burned into my brain the motherboards I used. I did have an 8RDA, and then later bought a modded A7N8X
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That's a Tyan Thunder K8W with a pair of dual-core Opterons and 16GB of Registered+ECC RAM. The video card is an ATi FireGL X1 256, an AGP Pro 50 card. Going to replace it with a simpler nVidia AGP card (6000 or 7000 series), I don't game so don't need the GPU performance, just need driver support for hardware acceleration for streaming video in Windows 7 and up.
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Cheers, although I have to admit, it would be interesting seeing market share of cards at that time. And I love the fact MS drivers were such serious pants. I mean, they always have been, but, you know... (Of course, Vista was serious pants. Like OS by CIG or something.)
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Shugojin posted:I have some incredibly nebulous interference-type problem with the onboard and even a pci-e sound card I plugged into this computer where there's a buzzing heard through my nice headphones that increases with CPU load so technically I have an internal separate sound card. A cheap USB sound card fixed the issue and I haven't really wanted that single pci-e x1 slot so uhhh I haven't bothered to take the internal one out because It worked much better than it ought to have.
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Looking for scores, TV listings, golf tips, soap opera updates or even nursery rhymes for the kiddos? Welcome to 1993.
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Elliotw2 posted:Considering that Apple and Google are removing/discouraging 3.5mm jacks in their higher end models, that "yet" might be sooner than you think. My first smartphone was the HTC G1, which lacked a headphone port. You needed an adapter (Mini-B to 3.5). It was also one of those "sideways" things so it didn't go well with pockets, I ended up replacing it twice before I sold the phone to a friend.
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Shugojin posted:I ran Witcher 3 on a GTX 460 for a while. Sure, settings had to be pretty low, but my framerates were actually playable. I upgraded anyway so I could make the game prettier but the point stands that CD Projekt Red made a game that's optimized well enough that you can still run it at a playable framerate with a card 3 generations behind their stated minimum. I played Battlefield 4 and MG5 on my 470 for a bit before upgrading to a 670. It made an appreciable difference but not an astounding one. moller has a new favorite as of 11:59 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Looking for scores, TV listings, golf tips, soap opera updates or even nursery rhymes for the kiddos? Welcome to 1993. Holy poo poo haven't thought about these in years I used to use a similar service as a kid to take calls from friends late at night, using call waiting so as not to wake my parents. Call waiting sure isn't obsolete, but the lack of it seems to be- I heard a busy signal the other week and it threw me for a loop
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TinTower posted:Britain's plugs are the best Huge chunky poo poo to make up for shoddy wiring is 'the best'? Explosionface posted:I know I certainly can and do. This is true, we need to adopt the plastic upper bit. Probably do a phase in where the sockets have to accept them for several years before we mandate it on the plugs.
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Buttcoin purse posted:I have a GeForce GT 720 which seemed pretty great when I got it for free, and I mostly don't play any games on it that aren't in DOSBox anyway, but now when I try to play the recently-released Doom E1M8 from John Romero in the Doomsday engine with all the high res textures, 3D models, etc., I don't get very many FPS. I thought just about any card should be good enough to play a game from 23 years ago Doomsday belongs in this thread, just run gzdoom jeeze. (Also 3d models and high rez textures? Nearest mipmap for life.)
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Buttcoin purse posted:Anyway this all means I have no freaking idea why a GTX 970 is obsolete. Surely they are still making drivers for it? Did a new version of DirectX or shader model or something come out that Grand Theft Auto 17 is going to use and GTX 970 doesn't support it? That's a Titan. The new 1080 is way cheaper (like half) and comparable in specs. Basically, buying a new Titan would be close to the worst financial decision you could make right now.
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The new 1070 edges the Titan X out in most performance benchmarks for $600-$700 less. Buttcoin purse posted:Anyway this all means I have no freaking idea why a GTX 970 is obsolete. Surely they are still making drivers for it? Did a new version of DirectX or shader model or something come out that Grand Theft Auto 17 is going to use and GTX 970 doesn't support it? You can hold on to your 970 for another year or two if you're only expecting to game at 1080p and not do anything crazy (like 4k or VR). twistedmentat posted:Sound Cards. Does anyone who isn't a professional musician actually have separate sound cards on computers these days? I saw they do still sell them, but doesn't an integrated card do everything you need, and with USB headphones, isn't sound just software? I hated the sound quality of the onboard Realtek audio in my PC, so I spent $25ish on an Asus Xonar DG and threw a UNi Xonar driver on it. Still consider it (and the Sennheiser headphones I bought some time later) to be a pretty good investment.
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Plebs.  My Titan Z runs 4k games just fine. (Forget that it cost me $1500  )To be fair, it was bought for its double-precision CUDA capabilities rather than its gaming prowess. I haven't looked too closely, but I don't think the 1070 is in that same category. The memory bandwidth though... 
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TotalLossBrain posted:Plebs. Minesweeper or CS GO don't count.
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Eh, I tried Fallout 4 and MGS:V. The latter ran far better than Bethesda's release day mess but it was still pretty good.
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I bought a new desktop calculator to replace the Walther WSR-160 (for the times when I feel the Cellatron is too big to fit on my desk). The Hamann Manus R. Invented by a German fellow named Christel Hamann in the 1920s, the R model was built during the mid 70s by DeTeWe, or the Deutsche Telephon Werke AG (German telephone company). A feature unique to this machine is that it can perform divisions automatically. Other machines would have you crank one way until a bell rang, shift the carriage, crank the other way and repeat. With this one you just input the dividend and divisor, flip three levers and crank until you have the required precision (hence why it's replacing the Walther).  It's rather rare to find these for sale, so I was lucky to find one in this condition, even though it was full of dust when I got it. Nothing a can of compressed air, some q-tips and machine lubricant couldn't fix, though.  Additionally:  Bonus Curta.
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Spy_Guy posted:I bought a new desktop calculator to replace the Walther WSR-160 (for the times when I feel the Cellatron is too big to fit on my desk).
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Croccers posted:C...can we have a video of you using it? Do it slowly. It's an old typewriter.
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Croccers posted:C...can we have a video of you using it? Sure thing.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7flZNhThrEo I'd have posted it earlier but didn't wanna be a shameful plug. Don't know about the request to do it slowly, though, since the video is kind of old. Sure wouldn't mind making another one if there's something someone wants to see. Also made one when I had the covers off for cleaning to show what happens if you divide by zero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOJPPD-DfQ8 It's not super exciting, I think 
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Dare you to take that Curta apart. (No seriously don;t do that)
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Spy_Guy posted:
Son of a bitch  . I will kill you and take it from you
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hackbunny posted:Son of a bitch We already broke the Enigma code, there's no need to go to such extremes.
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Spy_Guy posted:Sure thing. Your thumb is bigger on the end than in the middle. Wtf? Cool stuff tho. (Don't take the thumb jab seriously, lol)
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Keiya posted:Dare you to take that Curta apart. (No seriously don;t do that) Funny thing about the Curta is that it's basically booby-trapped. There are two big, rather inviting screws on the bottom, to someone who has more screwdrivers than sense. If you take those out, then pull the baseplate off you will find a bunch of thin metal rods being launched at you. These are the rods that drive the result register. They are spring-loaded and each of them has an exact position within the machine where it needs to be. Now they're on your floor in a heap. Getting the Curta back together again is going to be very difficult. DicktheCat posted:Your thumb is bigger on the end than in the middle. Wtf? Haha, yeah. There's a story behind that too. Glad you like the videos! The most alarming thing about my thumb is not that. It's that it bends backwards at a 90 degree angle.
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This takes me back to fruitless hours of googling to try and work out why I was getting continuous bluescreens with nvlddmkm.sys errors, thanks for the garbage drivers and garbage g92 boards nVidia! Also re plugchat, when I was a child I used to insist on changing any plugs that needed it or replacing the fuses myself including the old manual ones where you had to loop in the fuse wire yourself.
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Sentient Data posted:I feel like I want to give a lot of credit to Blizzard. Say what you will about the actual content of WoW, but the game was incredibly optimized. I don't feel like looking up any hard numbers right now, but that game would run with extremely old hardware compared to other games at the time. Worked fine on dial-up too.
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So last weekend I picked up a little album with a couple of home-recorded discs in it, because the cover looked cool and the contents seemed interesting (apparently a recording from the radio call of the "Red Cross Game", which was kind of the first national college basketball championship back in 1943):   Neat, huh? But when I got home I noticed some things I hadn't in the thrift store, namely 1. "SLOW BURNING" in the middle of the red label, 2. the Underwriter's Laboratories logo on the bottom of the red label, and 3. the closing lines of the promo text on the back cover:  Does this really mean what it seems to mean? Did the early days of home recording have a body count?? 
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Lazlo Nibble posted:Does this really mean what it seems to mean? Did the early days of home recording have a body count?? Acetate discs? They don’t seem to be as extraordinarily flammable as nitrocellulose film.
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Lazlo Nibble posted:Does this really mean what it seems to mean? Did the early days of home recording have a body count?? Have you seen Inglourious Basterds? Film/tape at the time was literally cordite in sheet form. Also cordite was advertised as "slow-burning" as opposed to, say, TNT (it just burns really fast, rather than supersonically detonating, you see. That's the difference between "low" (gun propellant) and "high" (the filler for artillery shells) explosives..
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Bad Angus! Bad!