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Kibner posted:Blame Jordan (and then Kobe) for messing up what people expect out of height and length for SGs. Only Wade has really bucked the trend to being an "undersized" superstar SG. Ben Gordon
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Undersized is fine but it's honest to say he is. It's just one thing against.
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I think 6'5 is average size for the position, it's just not good. Spectrum in NBA seems to be between 6'3 and 6'7 with a few outliers.
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Jun 12, 2016 23:24
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Kibner posted:Blame Jordan (and then Kobe) for messing up what people expect out of height and length for SGs. Only Wade has really bucked the trend to being an "undersized" superstar SG. Wade's got a massive wingspan which makes up for any disadvantage in height. Is that why the quotes were there ?
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Jun 12, 2016 23:25
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Speaking of: I think Malik Beasley will have more career WS than Jamal Murray. He's so loving good.
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straight up brolic posted:Speaking of: I think Malik Beasley will have more career WS than Jamal Murray. He's so loving good. semi-cool beas
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straight up brolic posted:Speaking of: I think Malik Beasley will have more career WS than Jamal Murray. He's so loving good. He's my No. 1 guy for Charlotte but we'll see if he lasts. Hopefully his hosed-up leg scares people away
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R.D. Mangles posted:semi-cool beas
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EvanTH posted:Wade's got a massive wingspan which makes up for any disadvantage in height. Is that why the quotes were there ? Kinda. He's undersized in that many would describe him as so but he is a perfectly acceptable size. A bit short, but his wingspan helps make up for it.
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Jun 12, 2016 23:41
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quote:Brian Robb: Domantas Sabonis said he’s only going to workout for four teams total: Boston, Utah, Phoenix and Toronto. Baby Sabonis certainly feels like an upgrade over Luis Scola.
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Jun 12, 2016 23:56
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euphronius posted:No they are doing due diligence which they always said they would do. The night of the draft they said they would look at a couple guys. Insider Bryan Colangelo seems to feel differently: http://www.nba.com/2016/news/featur...6ers/index.html quote:Decide between Simmons and Ingram My opinion is, Simmons should schedule a team workout with at least Philly.
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Jun 13, 2016 12:04
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Oh my bad I had not read the June 10th interview. That is a change of BC has been saying . So yeah . Sorry
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Jun 13, 2016 12:55
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Furkan Corked Bats has confirmed that he's staying in the draft. This is good because it will hopefully push some players down towards the Grizzlies pick.
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Jun 13, 2016 15:41
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straight up brolic posted:now it's just 6'9 at every position If watching the NBA the past 6 years has taught me anything, it's that height ultimately doesn't matter and it's all about wingspan.
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Jun 13, 2016 16:03
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Paul Zuvella posted:If watching the NBA the past 6 years has taught me anything, it's that height ultimately doesn't matter and it's all about wingspan.
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NickRoweFillea posted:Furkan Corked Bats has confirmed that he's staying in the draft. This is good because it will hopefully push some players down towards the Grizzlies pick. Do you have a source Nick? Everything I can find is going in the opposite direction. edit: NM. Just popped up. Redgrendel2001 fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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Jun 13, 2016 16:21
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I think Rodman and Barkley shoulda proved the case for Standing Reach over Height but for some reason Wingspan only became a draft-day drinking game in the last few years?
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euphronius posted:Oh my bad I had not read the June 10th interview. It's all good man you aren't reading me wrong in that I'm grasping a bit at this stuff now.
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Jun 13, 2016 18:05
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/742442243852734465 https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/742450314175860737
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Jun 13, 2016 21:53
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Rick posted:Insider Bryan Colangelo seems to feel differently: Nothing anyone officially says this close to the draft can be taken at face value. Even if they are 100% all in on Simmons as a player, there's always a chance he could pop a medical/character red flag in the next little while and they want to be able to say Ingram was their first choice all along rather than have it look like they got stuck with their second choice.
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Jun 14, 2016 00:35
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pseudodragon posted:Nothing anyone officially says this close to the draft can be taken at face value. Even if they are 100% all in on Simmons as a player, there's always a chance he could pop a medical/character red flag in the next little while and they want to be able to say Ingram was their first choice all along rather than have it look like they got stuck with their second choice. Who was the last slam dunk "we're taking this guy first no matter what" pick, LeBron? I want to say there were some concerns about Rose and Davis that made people pump the brakes slightly.
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Anthony Davis, Kyrie Irving, I don't think there was really ever much doubt about those guys
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C. Everett Koop posted:Who was the last slam dunk "we're taking this guy first no matter what" pick, LeBron? I want to say there were some concerns about Rose and Davis that made people pump the brakes slightly.
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C. Everett Koop posted:Who was the last slam dunk "we're taking this guy first no matter what" pick, LeBron? I want to say there were some concerns about Rose and Davis that made people pump the brakes slightly.
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Jun 14, 2016 01:39
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Metapod, someone else reminded me of my ideal big next to Davis. It is Tyson Chandler. Not the now Chandler, but the one from when he was on the Hornets up through his time with the Knicks.
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Kibner posted:Metapod, someone else reminded me of my ideal big next to Davis. It is Tyson Chandler. Not the now Chandler, but the one from when he was on the Hornets up through his time with the Knicks. LARRY SANDERS http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/mike-bibby-jason-williams-larry-sanders-2-million-dollar-nba-the-basketball-tournament/ He's playing this summer. He might just be coming back
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Jun 14, 2016 02:56
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Dejan Bimble posted:LARRY SANDERS That would be cool.
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pseudodragon posted:Nothing anyone officially says this close to the draft can be taken at face value. Even if they are 100% all in on Simmons as a player, there's always a chance he could pop a medical/character red flag in the next little while and they want to be able to say Ingram was their first choice all along rather than have it look like they got stuck with their second choice. I think a large part of what's being said is specifically to get Simmons to work out just so they can be sure about him.
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Rick posted:I think a large part of what's being said is specifically to get Simmons to work out just so they can be sure about him. Could be some dick swinging thing with Colangelo v Klutch Sports. Interviewing/working out every feasible player for a spot has other benefits; several years down the road that player could become available in a trade or as a free agent. Better to have a pre-existing data set to build off of just in case.
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Speaking of workouts, looks like Embiid was involved in the non-contact part of Ingram's today, which is pretty cool. Also, apparently Dunn is only willing to workout if it's one on one against other picks, but only Simmons, Ingram or Murray. I like the idea but he's someone who also really needs to participate in the process. Rick fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Bender is coming to do workouts this week, Phoenix, Boston and Timberwolves. I guess his people were considering him pulling out of the draft once rumors had him falling out of the top 10 but it looks like they decided to go all in. It might not actually be worth it for him to come over financially if he gets drafted below the lottery so it's an interesting risk.
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Bender is definitely going in the lottery
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I think he could be interesting on the Pels. It would be nice if they fell to him, imo.
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I think the thought is that several of the lottery teams haven't seen him and are worried that the teams that have are looking elsewhere. Like even now his strategy might not be great because I don't see the fit for the Celtics and Timberwolves so if the Suns are looking elsewhere, lower lottery teams are still guessing.
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Rick posted:I think the thought is that several of the lottery teams haven't seen him and are worried that the teams that have are looking elsewhere. Like even now his strategy might not be great because I don't see the fit for the Celtics and Timberwolves so if the Suns are looking elsewhere, lower lottery teams are still guessing. what
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The 'wolves are on the precipice of being good and I am not sure they have the minutes for someone who is going to need a lot of them to develop. Especially at SF which is probably at least his initial position.
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Don't really care if Dragan drops because he won't drop to 8 and if he falls it's because one of those guards jumped him
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Rick posted:The 'wolves are on the precipice of being good and I am not sure they have the minutes for someone who is going to need a lot of them to develop. Especially at SF which is probably at least his initial position. He is 7' 225 he's a PF. Also our bench is bad so there's plenty of places to play him.
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