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Soricidus posted:the upside is that the gnome developers who want to work on shiny new stuff* won't have to worry about backwards compatibility any more. the only ones who will have to care about existing users will be the ones who choose to work on maintaining boring old stuff**. at least they are giving everyone ample notice so they can start moving to qt
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Blue Train posted:I like gnome but drat theyre making it hard to Yeah I see a lot of people complain about gnome, but I also see people complain about pretty much all of the popular DEs so it's hard to tell what is actually bad and what is just a result of people declaring that everything is terrible. I was looking at KDE because the customizability sounds kind of neat, but I think people tend to not like KDE for some reason that I'm not entirely clear on.
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VikingofRock posted:Yeah I see a lot of people complain about gnome, but I also see people complain about pretty much all of the popular DEs so it's hard to tell what is actually bad and what is just a result of people declaring that everything is terrible. I was looking at KDE because the customizability sounds kind of neat, but I think people tend to not like KDE for some reason that I'm not entirely clear on. i've used budgie for the last months, it's pretty much gnome apps with a different desktop, before that i used cinnamon. both are good
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mekkanare posted:i3 is nice if you don't want to use a mouse, whether it's your preference or not. Yeah I've been looking at WMs a little too, but I guess I don't really get them. What made you pick i3 over awesome or xmonad? Also, how does stuff like browsing the internet work in a WM? Like you can use a mouse for that, right?
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VikingofRock posted:Yeah I've been looking at WMs a little too, but I guess I don't really get them. What made you pick i3 over awesome or xmonad? Also, how does stuff like browsing the internet work in a WM? Like you can use a mouse for that, right? Yes. I use xmonad. It's OK (but the default setup is not). I think most of the tiling WMs are similar enough that it hardly matters which one you use. Ratpoison is the one with the best default configuration, because there is not much to configure, and it does not try to second-guess you. I also has very few features. (This is a good thing.)
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VikingofRock posted:Yeah I've been looking at WMs a little too, but I guess I don't really get them. What made you pick i3 over awesome or xmonad? Also, how does stuff like browsing the internet work in a WM? Like you can use a mouse for that, right? in my experience i3 requires the least amount of time investment to use, it's pretty simple. if you have the time and inclination to get stuff like xmonad to your liking, then it will likely be superior, though it's a bit more complicated. i3 also integrates with gnome alright if that matters to you. my needs aren't too much, a tabbed workspace, a tiling workspace, whatever e. hobbesmaster posted:the upside is hopefully you switch to Qt Qt seems promising. for the longest time i used openbox for its floating windows, light footprint and simple xml config, then i realized that lxqt was p. much a preconfigured openbox. so if there's a need to use it, it's a starting point to branch off from, carying over old config files + preferences OldAlias fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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VikingofRock posted:What DE do people in this thread like, and why? I've been meaning to migrate from my ancient Ubuntu install to Fedora, and I'm trying to decide which spin to use. lxqt is simple and polished and lightweight
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Blue Train posted:I like gnome but drat theyre making it hard to
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my stepdads beer posted:lol what is the point of versions if the major breaking ones can happen at any random point release this is the best part of Qt: it actually feels like you're using a professionally designed API with a thought out architecture and release strategy. this is why its used in a lot of commercial products and other open source frameworks are not
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VikingofRock posted:Yeah I've been looking at WMs a little too, but I guess I don't really get them. What made you pick i3 over awesome or xmonad? Also, how does stuff like browsing the internet work in a WM? Like you can use a mouse for that, right? I wanted to try an Arch distro and wanted a DE that didn't require a lot of mouse use since I was putting it on a laptop. I found Manjaro and it had an i3 version. It now has a bspwm version too. Also pretty much what OldAlias said has been my experience.
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hobbesmaster posted:this is the best part of Qt: it actually feels like you're using a professionally designed API with a thought out architecture and release strategy. this is why its used in a lot of commercial products and other open source frameworks are not Yeah as far as UI libraries go, Qt is actually pretty good while gtk is a trash fire I'm hoping this is the thing that gets apps to finally stop using gtk
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I use macOS, the world's most advanced personal computer operating system.
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as do i linux on the desktop: a VM and a arm dev board count right, they're on my desk
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hobbesmaster posted:as do i I have 3 dev boards, my desktop, and three more VM's. That's just on my desk. At work I have a bunch of VM's as well.
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yeah, well, i have four dev boards. bitch
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GameCube posted:yeah, well, i have four dev boards. bitch I was just talking about the boards on my desk. I have over 10 in the house and 20+ at work in total.
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Thanks guys, the DE advice definitely gives me a jumping off point. I'll check out some of the options listed--I suppose one of the nice things about linux is how easy it is to swap out things like the DE.
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ratbert90 posted:I was just talking about the boards on my desk. I have over 10 in the house and 20+ at work in total. My dev boards have miniature desks with miniature dev boards on them
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Progressive JPEG posted:My dev boards have miniature desks with miniature dev boards on them Yo dog, we heard you like dev boards on your desk.
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quote:Each 6 months, the new release (Gtk 4.2, Gtk 4.4, Gtk 4.6) will break API and ABI vs. the release that came before it.
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eschaton posted:I use macOS, the world's most advanced personal computer operating system. somehow quartz has managed to be pretty stable over the last 15 years
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ratbert90 posted:I was just talking about the boards on my desk. I have over 10 in the house and 20+ at work in total. yeah me too. i've got fifty dev boards. loving bitch
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how the gently caress do i change the SDDM greeter to username and password field instead of badge and password field
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GameCube posted:yeah me too. i've got fifty dev boards. loving bitch I exclusively deal with embedded Linux projects.
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graph posted:how the gently caress do i change the SDDM greeter to username and password field instead of badge and password field Pure guess, but try changing theme
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graph posted:how the gently caress do i change the SDDM greeter to username and password field instead of badge and password field the feature got commited to sddm like five days ago, good timing (if you use kde). plasma 5.7's sddm got options for username input. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364139 Tankakern fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Celexi posted:LMAO after thinking about it a bit, i've decided this is only a little bit dumb dumb #1: break things every two years? wtf? 5+ years, maybe. take some time to think, gently caress dumb #2: they have no credibility that they'll properly maintain the 3.x line when 4.x is out. if I thought they'd release gnome 4 and have it come with 3.30 and 4.0 both 100% supported and properly maintained as first class citizens with no "we're not working on 3 anymore because 4 is the future" bullshit, it'd be a good strategy. It'd be kind of how like python 2->3 sucked less once they started backporting things from 3 to 2 that had no business being held hostage. They can dogfood 4, while honestly recommending 3.30 to 3rd party stuff. but every 2 years come on. expect 3rd party apps to take 10 years to upgrade to a new gtk. they're not seriously proposing supporting 5 versions, so they're proposing saying "gently caress you" to their users.
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Tankakern posted:the feature got commited to sddm like five days ago, good timing (if you use kde). plasma 5.7's sddm got options for username input. jesus christ lol so uh gotta wait until july 5 i guess http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-plasma-5-6-5-is-the-last-in-the-series-kde-plasma-5-7-coming-july-5-505235.shtml
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good news folks, the ability to type your username in instead of scrolling through a list of thousands of options was the last outstanding feature, so come july 5 linux will be ready for the desktop!
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Soricidus posted:good news folks, the ability to type your username in instead of scrolling through a list of thousands of options was the last outstanding feature, so come july 5 linux will be ready for the desktop! this is only sddm which kubuntu switched to in the recent 16.04 release all the others have username fields because they use lightdm
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Soricidus posted:good news folks, the ability to type your username in instead of scrolling through a list of thousands of options was the last outstanding feature, so come july 5 linux will be ready for the desktop! 
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If you used the correct rolling release distro of Linux, Arch Linux, then you would be able to take advantage of new upstream features within days (or at most one week) of them being released, my dudes.
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Mr Dog posted:If you used the correct rolling release distro of Linux, like i want to have to support loving kubuntu by choice lol
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Mr Dog posted:If you used the correct rolling release distro of Linux, Arch Linux, then you would be able to take advantage of new upstream features within days (or at most one week) of them being released, stupid pug poster
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